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Date: 01 Sep 2007 20:37:39
From: dave calhoun
Subject: brewing with "wet" hops
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Tommorow I brew my first beer using hots right off the vine. It is for
a local contest which requires the aroma hop to have been picked "this
year" which of course means right now. So my hops have been off the
vine less than a day at this point and I'm planning to brew tomorrow.
I'm told to use a 5:1 ratio compared to pelletized hops, by weight. Any
other advice?
Dave
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Date: 03 Sep 2007 18:10:20
From: JS
Subject: Re: brewing with "wet" hops
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On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 20:37:39 -0700, dave calhoun <dave@efscollects.com >
wrote:
>Tommorow I brew my first beer using hots right off the vine. It is for
>a local contest which requires the aroma hop to have been picked "this
>year" which of course means right now. So my hops have been off the
>vine less than a day at this point and I'm planning to brew tomorrow.
>I'm told to use a 5:1 ratio compared to pelletized hops, by weight. Any
>other advice?
>
>Dave
I've always heard it's best to let the fresh hops dry first. A 5:1
ratio seems extreme to me. Are you using them for aroma or bittering?
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Date: 04 Sep 2007 10:00:59
From: Denny Conn
Subject: Re: brewing with "wet" hops
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JS wrote:
> I've always heard it's best to let the fresh hops dry first. A 5:1
> ratio seems extreme to me. Are you using them for aroma or bittering?
5:1 is just right for using wet hops. I've done it more than once. The
OP should be aware, though, that the flavor you'll get is very differet
than using dry hops.
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Date: 04 Sep 2007 15:57:54
From: Bill Velek
Subject: Re: brewing with "wet" hops
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Denny Conn wrote:
> JS wrote:
>
>>I've always heard it's best to let the fresh hops dry first. A 5:1
>>ratio seems extreme to me. Are you using them for aroma or bittering?
>
> 5:1 is just right for using wet hops. I've done it more than once. The
> OP should be aware, though, that the flavor you'll get is very differet
> than using dry hops.
Hello, all. I wet-hopped for the first time this year for three
different batches, using my homegrown hops. I was told elsewhere to use
a 6:1 ratio, so I'm sure that 5:1 wouldn't be too much. The beer turned
out pretty good; it was somewhat different than past brews, but nothing
dramatic enough, in my opinion, to necessarily attribute the distinction
to 'wet-hopping'. Maybe I was just expecting too much, or just don't
know what to focus on. I was warned that my beer might have a somewhat
grassy flavor, but I never picked up on anything like that. In truth, I
think I let my hops get pretty dry on the bines, so maybe this wasn't a
good example of wet-hopping. I wish now that I would have weighed my
hops before drying them, and then I'd have a much better idea of _how_
wet they still were -- and what the actually correct ratio should have
been. I think my hops were probably dry enough to start with that a
smaller ratio might have been more appropriate -- maybe just 3:1 which
would be half the rate I actually used. But I just used them for flavor
and aroma, so none of my beer struck me as being over-hopped. It
definitely wasn't too bitter. The reason my hops were so dry is that
this was my first year to grow, and I wasn't sure when to harvest. I
was gone for a couple of days and when I got back and noticed that a lot
of the cones were actually turning brown on the bines, I knew I had
probably already passed the best harvest date. Anyway, I'm pretty happy
with the results even though I expected something _REALLY_ special from
a "Harvest" beer -- made with wet hops.
I expect next year will be much better. I hope I'll double my harvest,
and I'll have a much better idea about when to harvest. I have picked
up a lot of good tips in my Yahoo 'Grow-Hops' group, for any growers who
are interested (link in my signature block).
Cheers.
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