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Date: 22 Sep 2006 14:27:02
From: John Bleichert
Subject: yeast for Ayinger clone
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Hello All I'm putting together a clone of Ayinger's Jahrhundert-Bier and trying to pick a yeast. I'm thinking WLP838 South German Lager yeast as opposed to the WLP830 stuff since Aying is just south of Munich - this sound right? Thanks - JB ----------------------------------------------- John Bleichert syborg@earthlink.net The heat from below can burn your eyes out!!
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Date: 22 Sep 2006 16:49:41
From: Brewer Bob
Subject: Re: yeast for Ayinger clone
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WLP833 is indeed the Ayinger strain. Correct me if I'm wrong but, I believe Marc Sedam brought a culture from their brewery back to Chris White a few years back. Brewer Bob John Bleichert wrote: > Hello All > > I'm putting together a clone of Ayinger's Jahrhundert-Bier and trying > to pick a yeast. I'm thinking WLP838 South German Lager yeast as > opposed to the WLP830 stuff since Aying is just south of Munich - this > sound right? > > Thanks - JB > > > ----------------------------------------------- > John Bleichert syborg@earthlink.net > The heat from below can burn your eyes out!!
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Date: 22 Sep 2006 09:54:29
From: Denny Conn
Subject: Re: yeast for Ayinger clone
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Brewer Bob wrote: > > WLP833 is indeed the Ayinger strain. Correct me if I'm wrong but, I > believe Marc Sedam brought a culture from their brewery back to Chris > White a few years back. That may be who it was...I've been racking what's left of my brain trying to remember! I recall that the story was on HBD.... --------- >Denny -- Life begins at 60...1.060, that is.
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Date: 22 Sep 2006 12:33:56
From: The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty
Subject: Re: yeast for Ayinger clone
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Brewer Bob wrote: > WLP833 is indeed the Ayinger strain. Correct me if I'm wrong but, I > believe Marc Sedam brought a culture from their brewery back to Chris > White a few years back. > > Brewer Bob Marc Sedam brought back the Zurich lager (the Hurlimann Samichlaus yeast). AFAIK, Charles Rich obtained the Ayinger sample. He sent me some under distilled water. I'm not sure how Chris got it. I sent it on to a couple of Australian brewer friends of mine. -- (Replies: cleanse my address of the Mark of the Beast!) Teleoperate a roving mobile robot from the web: http://www.swampgas.com/robotics/rover.html Coauthor with Dennis Clark of "Building Robot Drive Trains". Buy several copies today!
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Date: 22 Sep 2006 18:07:37
From: Brewer Bob
Subject: Re: yeast for Ayinger clone
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The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty wrote: > Brewer Bob wrote: > >> WLP833 is indeed the Ayinger strain. Correct me if I'm wrong but, I >> believe Marc Sedam brought a culture from their brewery back to Chris >> White a few years back. >> >> Brewer Bob > > > Marc Sedam brought back the Zurich lager (the Hurlimann Samichlaus yeast). > > AFAIK, Charles Rich obtained the Ayinger sample. He sent me some under > distilled water. I'm not sure how Chris got it. I sent it on to a couple > of Australian brewer friends of mine. Here's the thread that corrorates that tidbit. Thanks for the correction: http://www.hbd.org/hbd/archive/4116.html#4116-1 Brewer Bob >
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Date: 22 Sep 2006 13:49:40
From: The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty
Subject: Re: yeast for Ayinger clone
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Brewer Bob wrote: > > > The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty wrote: > >> Brewer Bob wrote: >> >>> WLP833 is indeed the Ayinger strain. Correct me if I'm wrong but, I >>> believe Marc Sedam brought a culture from their brewery back to Chris >>> White a few years back. >>> >>> Brewer Bob >> >> >> Marc Sedam brought back the Zurich lager (the Hurlimann Samichlaus >> yeast). >> >> AFAIK, Charles Rich obtained the Ayinger sample. He sent me some under >> distilled water. I'm not sure how Chris got it. I sent it on to a >> couple of Australian brewer friends of mine. > > Here's the thread that corrorates that tidbit. Thanks for the correction: > > http://www.hbd.org/hbd/archive/4116.html#4116-1 Cool -- I know Graham got it from Phil Yates, who got it from me, who got it from Charles Rich or Jon Betterly in early 2000. As I recall, Charles got it at the brewery, but I could be wrong. I'm pretty sure the yeast was making the rounds in the Pacific Northwest prior to when I got it from those guys. I never realized that Chris got it from Graham. -- (Replies: cleanse my address of the Mark of the Beast!) Teleoperate a roving mobile robot from the web: http://www.swampgas.com/robotics/rover.html Coauthor with Dennis Clark of "Building Robot Drive Trains". Buy several copies today!
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Date: 22 Sep 2006 11:50:58
From: Denny Conn
Subject: Re: yeast for Ayinger clone
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The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty wrote: > Cool -- I know Graham got it from Phil Yates, who got it from me, who > got it from Charles Rich or Jon Betterly in early 2000. As I recall, > Charles got it at the brewery, but I could be wrong. Apologies for straying here, but do you ever hear from Phil anymore? Those were some damn entertaining posts he made to HBD. --------- >Denny -- Life begins at 60...1.060, that is.
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Date: 22 Sep 2006 14:03:15
From: The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty
Subject: Re: yeast for Ayinger clone
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Denny Conn wrote: > The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty wrote: > >> Cool -- I know Graham got it from Phil Yates, who got it from me, who >> got it from Charles Rich or Jon Betterly in early 2000. As I recall, >> Charles got it at the brewery, but I could be wrong. > > Apologies for straying here, but do you ever hear from Phil anymore? > Those were some damn entertaining posts he made to HBD. > > --------->Denny Yeah -- Phil and I are still in touch. He still brews -- in fact he co-owned a malt company in Oz for a while, but he's out of that at this point. Still flies -- I think he's supposed to be in the States next week moving a plane from LA to Massachusetts. Still trying to convince him to stop over in in N.O. -- (Replies: cleanse my address of the Mark of the Beast!) Teleoperate a roving mobile robot from the web: http://www.swampgas.com/robotics/rover.html Coauthor with Dennis Clark of "Building Robot Drive Trains". Buy several copies today!
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Date: 22 Sep 2006 12:22:00
From: Denny Conn
Subject: Re: yeast for Ayinger clone
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The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty wrote: > Yeah -- Phil and I are still in touch. He still brews -- in fact he > co-owned a malt company in Oz for a while, but he's out of that at this > point. > > Still flies -- I think he's supposed to be in the States next week > moving a plane from LA to Massachusetts. Still trying to convince him to > stop over in in N.O. Thanks for the update! --------- >Denny -- Life begins at 60...1.060, that is.
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Date: 22 Sep 2006 09:31:42
From: The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty
Subject: Re: yeast for Ayinger clone
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John Bleichert wrote: > Hello All > > I'm putting together a clone of Ayinger's Jahrhundert-Bier and trying > to pick a yeast. I'm thinking WLP838 South German Lager yeast as > opposed to the WLP830 stuff since Aying is just south of Munich - this > sound right? > > Thanks - JB > > > ----------------------------------------------- > John Bleichert syborg@earthlink.net > The heat from below can burn your eyes out!! I think WLP 833 is supposed to be the Ayinger strain. I used to ranch this one -- it's a decent yeast. -- (Replies: cleanse my address of the Mark of the Beast!) Teleoperate a roving mobile robot from the web: http://www.swampgas.com/robotics/rover.html Coauthor with Dennis Clark of "Building Robot Drive Trains". Buy several copies today!
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Date: 22 Sep 2006 14:49:49
From: John Bleichert
Subject: Re: yeast for Ayinger clone
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The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty <mikey666@666swampgas.666com > wrote: > John Bleichert wrote: >> Hello All >> >> I'm putting together a clone of Ayinger's Jahrhundert-Bier and trying >> to pick a yeast. I'm thinking WLP838 South German Lager yeast as >> opposed to the WLP830 stuff since Aying is just south of Munich - this >> sound right? >> >> Thanks - JB >> > > I think WLP 833 is supposed to be the Ayinger strain. I used to ranch > this one -- it's a decent yeast. > Really? German Bock Lager Yeast. Descriptions for the strain say it's good for Helles style lagers - is Jahrhundert-Bier a Helles? I'm still kind of green with German beers. Thanks for the info - I think I'll try the 833. JB ----------------------------------------------- John Bleichert syborg@earthlink.net The heat from below can burn your eyes out!!
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Date: 22 Sep 2006 10:11:46
From: The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty
Subject: Re: yeast for Ayinger clone
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John Bleichert wrote: > The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty <mikey666@666swampgas.666com> wrote: >> John Bleichert wrote: >>> Hello All >>> >>> I'm putting together a clone of Ayinger's Jahrhundert-Bier and trying >>> to pick a yeast. I'm thinking WLP838 South German Lager yeast as >>> opposed to the WLP830 stuff since Aying is just south of Munich - this >>> sound right? >>> >>> Thanks - JB >>> >> I think WLP 833 is supposed to be the Ayinger strain. I used to ranch >> this one -- it's a decent yeast. >> > > Really? German Bock Lager Yeast. Descriptions for the strain say it's > good for Helles style lagers - is Jahrhundert-Bier a Helles? I'm still > kind of green with German beers. Yes -- it's a Helles. Having said that, don't take the "what the yeast is good for" descriptions too seriously for the lager yeasts. Personally, I like 802 for a helles (have one finishing up right now, in fact). -- (Replies: cleanse my address of the Mark of the Beast!) Teleoperate a roving mobile robot from the web: http://www.swampgas.com/robotics/rover.html Coauthor with Dennis Clark of "Building Robot Drive Trains". Buy several copies today!
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