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Date: 14 Jun 2006 05:25:39
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Subject: need positive ID for antique lauter tun(?)
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I have this listed on ebay and am trying to confirm its actual purpose,
I suspect it is an old lauter tun. I picture is worth a thousand words
so please forgive me for posting the ebay link here.
Lauter Tun (?) Beer (?) copper vessel brew sight glass
Brewing ? English ? German ? tombstone window Item number: 7422416246
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7422416246&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1<p >
Before I get a bid and have difficulty changing the ad, I would like
some confirmation as to what this is used for.
BTW does Google have image hosting like yahoo, that works for the
groups?
Thanks in advance rec.craft.brewing people
DTL
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Date: 14 Jun 2006 08:53:38
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Subject: Re: need positive ID for antique lauter tun(?)
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Ok,
That is what I thought at first.
read the description... why would it have a sight glass? I have seen a
LOT of antique pitchers, it looks more industrial or process oriented.
When I got it, it looked like it had been used to change oil in a car,
but oil seals onto glass would use something else than glass glazing I
would think... someone said that they used to use lead. Besides, the
filter holes are too small for quick pouring of oil and too large to do
any useful filtering that I am aware of.
What I am asking, is whether the discripton I have posted for this
copper vessel matches any process related to beer making, the way it
might have been done 100 years ago.... are you much interested in
antiques?
It also looks like it is for pouring from the bottom of the pitcher....
anyway I was trying to undertand the beer making process a little and I
noticed that lauter tuns work this way in some respects. It is only 3
quarts.
If you know anybody who is into antique beer making, mention this to
him.
Thanks
John 'Shaggy' Kolesar wrote:
> On 14 Jun 2006 05:25:39 -0700, <random_interference@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I have this listed on ebay and am trying to confirm its actual purpose,
> > I suspect it is an old lauter tun. I picture is worth a thousand words
> > so please forgive me for posting the ebay link here.
>
> Doesn't look like a lauter tun to me. What volume does it hold? IMO, looks
> more like a pitcher or decanter than anything else.
>
>
> John.
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Date: 14 Jun 2006 18:05:14
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: need positive ID for antique lauter tun(?)
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On 14 Jun 2006 08:53:38 -0700, <random_interference@yahoo.com > wrote:
> What I am asking, is whether the discripton I have posted for this
> copper vessel matches any process related to beer making, the way it
> might have been done 100 years ago
Not that I'm aware of. I don't know what this vessel was intended for, but
I don't think it would work as a lauter tun. IMO, a couple quarts is way
too small for a lauter tun, even for a homebrewer. Also, you wouldn't
really want to "pour" from a lauter tun.
> If you know anybody who is into antique beer making, mention this to
> him.
There may be some people on here who are interested, but I don't think
this vessel was ever intended for use in making beer. I could be wrong
though.
John.
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Date: 14 Jun 2006 17:29:42
From: Joel
Subject: Re: need positive ID for antique lauter tun(?)
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<random_interference@yahoo.com > wrote:
>That is what I thought at first.
>read the description... why would it have a sight glass? I have seen a
>LOT of antique pitchers, it looks more industrial or process oriented.
>When I got it, it looked like it had been used to change oil in a car,
>but oil seals onto glass would use something else than glass glazing I
>would think... someone said that they used to use lead. Besides, the
>filter holes are too small for quick pouring of oil and too large to do
>any useful filtering that I am aware of.
>What I am asking, is whether the discripton I have posted for this
>copper vessel matches any process related to beer making, the way it
>might have been done 100 years ago.... are you much interested in
>antiques?
>It also looks like it is for pouring from the bottom of the pitcher....
>anyway I was trying to undertand the beer making process a little and I
>noticed that lauter tuns work this way in some respects. It is only 3
>quarts.
>If you know anybody who is into antique beer making, mention this to
>him.
I have an interest in historical brewing. Basically, in most
ways brewing hasn't changed significantly in the last 100 years
or more. While I can't be 100% certain, I have severe doubts that
what you have is related to brewing. Mostly, it's way too small
even for household-scale brewing. Not only would it handle an
insignificant amount of grain, but the efficiency with which it
would extract sugars and proteins would be very low.
As for the glass ports, there's absolutely no reason for them
to exist in a hand-held lautering system (were one to exist).
I would think it has a better chance of being simply a fancy
way to pour something like ice water or real lemonade or other
macerated-fruit beverage.
--
Joel Plutchak
"Things deserve to get stirred up." - Michael Balzary
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Date: 14 Jun 2006 14:18:48
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: need positive ID for antique lauter tun(?)
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On 14 Jun 2006 05:25:39 -0700, <random_interference@yahoo.com > wrote:
> I have this listed on ebay and am trying to confirm its actual purpose,
> I suspect it is an old lauter tun. I picture is worth a thousand words
> so please forgive me for posting the ebay link here.
Doesn't look like a lauter tun to me. What volume does it hold? IMO, looks
more like a pitcher or decanter than anything else.
John.
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Date: 14 Jun 2006 14:13:21
From:
Subject: Re: need positive ID for antique lauter tun(?)
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You all are pretty funny, I suppose i deserve a little flaming...
jumping to ridiculous conclusions.
Ebay keeps the old version of when you change or updateyour listing...
I first thought it was for oil...then changed to lauter tun...then
changed it to whatever it is now.... <p >
I Enjoy trying to figure out "what-is-it"s.... I should have waited
till i had a better clue. My bad.
"fishing for bids"... well yes...only if it is what I thought it
was...now that I am sure it ain't, I admit my mistake and changed my
ad.
I will never sell something and deceive bidders intentionally.... I
always put "money back if not as described" in my shipping policy.
re:
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7422416246&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1<p>
> >
I have had a lot of beer that tasted like it came from one of those.
*door hits me on ass*
thanks anyways.
PaulK wrote:
> random_interference@yahoo.com wrote:
> > I have this listed on ebay and am trying to confirm its actual purpose,
> > I suspect it is an old lauter tun. I picture is worth a thousand words
> > so please forgive me for posting the ebay link here.
> > Lauter Tun (?) Beer (?) copper vessel brew sight glass
> > Brewing ? English ? German ? tombstone window Item number: 7422416246
> > <p>
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7422416246&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1<p>
> >
> > Before I get a bid and have difficulty changing the ad, I would like
> > some confirmation as to what this is used for.
> >
> > BTW does Google have image hosting like yahoo, that works for the
> > groups?
> >
> > Thanks in advance rec.craft.brewing people
> >
> > DTL
>
> Absolutely that's a lauter tun. It was quite common to waste one's
> time and brew a pint of beer at a time in the old days. Here's another
> old tun that happens to be listed on eBay.
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Porcelain-Metal-Bed-Pan-White-Queen-Columbian-Vintage_W0QQitemZ6288347793QQihZ010QQcategoryZ15910QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> I don't know why they call it a bed pan in the listing though? Odd.
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Date: 14 Jun 2006 12:38:50
From: PaulK
Subject: Re: need positive ID for antique lauter tun(?)
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random_interference@yahoo.com wrote:
> I have this listed on ebay and am trying to confirm its actual purpose,
> I suspect it is an old lauter tun. I picture is worth a thousand words
> so please forgive me for posting the ebay link here.
> Lauter Tun (?) Beer (?) copper vessel brew sight glass
> Brewing ? English ? German ? tombstone window Item number: 7422416246
> <p>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7422416246&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1<p>
>
> Before I get a bid and have difficulty changing the ad, I would like
> some confirmation as to what this is used for.
>
> BTW does Google have image hosting like yahoo, that works for the
> groups?
>
> Thanks in advance rec.craft.brewing people
>
> DTL
Absolutely that's a lauter tun. It was quite common to waste one's
time and brew a pint of beer at a time in the old days. Here's another
old tun that happens to be listed on eBay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Porcelain-Metal-Bed-Pan-White-Queen-Columbian-Vintage_W0QQitemZ6288347793QQihZ010QQcategoryZ15910QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I don't know why they call it a bed pan in the listing though? Odd.
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Date: 14 Jun 2006 11:18:00
From:
Subject: Re: need positive ID for antique lauter tun(?)
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Ok, I lost my long post.
here i go again.
I agree now with you... all old recipiesI found for ales and such are
much greater volumes.... looks though like some measement use...tall
windows are 1", 1/2" at bottom, 3/4" at top...no evidence that it was
used to heat things. Perhaps copper is bad for whatever goes on in that
pitcher...
?? pouring off water that sunk to the bottom of oil?
Inspection of some process?... anyway I am still working on this...
changing the ebay ad as I get new ideas LOL
Thanks for your input.... keep thinking !!!
Joel wrote:
> <random_interference@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >That is what I thought at first.
> >read the description... why would it have a sight glass? I have seen a
> >LOT of antique pitchers, it looks more industrial or process oriented.
> >When I got it, it looked like it had been used to change oil in a car,
> >but oil seals onto glass would use something else than glass glazing I
> >would think... someone said that they used to use lead. Besides, the
> >filter holes are too small for quick pouring of oil and too large to do
> >any useful filtering that I am aware of.
> >What I am asking, is whether the discripton I have posted for this
> >copper vessel matches any process related to beer making, the way it
> >might have been done 100 years ago.... are you much interested in
> >antiques?
> >It also looks like it is for pouring from the bottom of the pitcher....
> >anyway I was trying to undertand the beer making process a little and I
> >noticed that lauter tuns work this way in some respects. It is only 3
> >quarts.
> >If you know anybody who is into antique beer making, mention this to
> >him.
>
> I have an interest in historical brewing. Basically, in most
> ways brewing hasn't changed significantly in the last 100 years
> or more. While I can't be 100% certain, I have severe doubts that
> what you have is related to brewing. Mostly, it's way too small
> even for household-scale brewing. Not only would it handle an
> insignificant amount of grain, but the efficiency with which it
> would extract sugars and proteins would be very low.
> As for the glass ports, there's absolutely no reason for them
> to exist in a hand-held lautering system (were one to exist).
> I would think it has a better chance of being simply a fancy
> way to pour something like ice water or real lemonade or other
> macerated-fruit beverage.
> --
> Joel Plutchak
>
> "Things deserve to get stirred up." - Michael Balzary
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Date: 14 Jun 2006 18:42:28
From: Joel
Subject: Re: need positive ID for antique lauter tun(?)
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<random_interference@yahoo.com > wrote:
>Thanks for your input.... keep thinking !!!
What I'm thinking is that you're just fishing for
bids. Why else have the same item pictured and
described on two different active auctions, with one
of them at half the starting bid of the "lauter tun"
listing?
Buyer beware!
--
Joel Plutchak
"Things deserve to get stirred up." - Michael Balzary
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Date: 14 Jun 2006 18:02:10
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: need positive ID for antique lauter tun(?)
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<random_interference@yahoo.com > wrote:
> I have this listed on ebay and am trying to confirm its actual
> purpose, I suspect it is an old lauter tun.
Wow - that is a real stretch of the imagination.
> I picture is worth a thousand words so please forgive me for
> posting the ebay link here. Lauter Tun (?) Beer (?) copper
> vessel brew sight glass Brewing ? English ? German ? tombstone
> window Item number: 7422416246 <p>
Try using: http://tinyurl.com/zalnp
My grandmother had one of these. It was yellow and the handle
was off-center from the spout. She used the sightglass to
measure water for tea.
Dick
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