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Date: 16 Aug 2006 08:11:15
From: Ryan Case
Subject: missing flavor help needed
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As some of you may remember I am back to brewing after some time away.
One of the first batches I did after coming back to the hobby was an
oatmeal stout that I had had the crushed grains for in a paper bag in a
cool dark place for 3+ years. I figured what the hey! for the cost of
some hops (which are free when you live in Yakima)it was worth a try.
The stout wasn't *bad* by any means, but if you split the after taste
into three categories and labeled them begining, middle, and end I would
say that the middle was missing. Instead there was a kind of watery
taste where it should have been. This seemed to finally go away with the
last six glasses or so out of the keg. I wrote it off to the age of the
grain.
I then brewed quite a bit more. Some hefe, some amber, some rocketfuel,
some IPA and another oatmeal stout. The second oatmeal stout has the
same empty spot in the middle of the finish. This is perplexing me. The
other beers don't have it. Just the oatmeal stouts. Any ideas? I know
that it is quite hard to give advice on this kind of thing over the net.
If it was bottled, or I had a CP filler I would send out a couple of
bottles just to get some feedback, but it is all kegged. This is not a
taste that makes me think there is something wrong with the beer, like
infection or diacetyl. It is more of a flat spot in the finish of the
taste that makes me think there is something missing.
The second batch that is still on tap is about 3 months old now and I
have only had about 6 glasses out of the keg. I am trying patience to
see if that fixes it, but 3 months seems like it should be long enough
to remedy it, no?
Sorry about the long post.
Ryan
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 08:18:22
From: Scott L
Subject: Re: missing flavor help needed
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Ryan Case wrote:
> I then brewed quite a bit more. Some hefe, some amber, some rocketfuel,
> some IPA and another oatmeal stout. The second oatmeal stout has the
> same empty spot in the middle of the finish. This is perplexing me. The
> other beers don't have it. Just the oatmeal stouts. Any ideas?
The first thing I'd do is compare your stout to a quality commercial
oatmeal stout to try to identify the missing character. I bet, though,
without even tasting it, that you don't have enough sweetness in the
middle of the flavor. Stouts aren't normally very malty, but oatmeal
stout is sweet. I'd examine your mash temperatures and maybe consider
adding some dark crystal malt.
Scott
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 17:22:12
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: missing flavor help needed
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On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:11:15 -0700, <usenet@jamesrobert.us > wrote:
> I then brewed quite a bit more. Some hefe, some amber, some rocketfuel,
> some IPA and another oatmeal stout. The second oatmeal stout has the
> same empty spot in the middle of the finish. This is perplexing me.
What was the recipe?
John.
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 11:03:42
From: Ryan Case
Subject: Re: missing flavor help needed
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John 'Shaggy' Kolesar wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:11:15 -0700, <usenet@jamesrobert.us> wrote:
>> I then brewed quite a bit more. Some hefe, some amber, some rocketfuel,
>> some IPA and another oatmeal stout. The second oatmeal stout has the
>> same empty spot in the middle of the finish. This is perplexing me.
>
> What was the recipe?
>
>
> John.
You see I knew you were going to ask that. Let me see if I can dig it out.
Nope, don't have it at work with me, will have to find it at home. I
know that it had 4lbs of oatmeal in it. And I want to say that it had
18lbs of 2-row, but I am not remembering perfectly as it has been quite
a while.
Will see if I can find my notes when I get home.
Ryan
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