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Date: 17 Dec 2006 12:40:30
From: John Krehbiel
Subject: husks of dark grains
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OK, probably a stoopid question, but I have noticed that when I grind
dark grains with pale ale malt, all the husks look light. Does roasting
make the husks more brittle? Do they get burned off?
Today I made a porter with pale ale malt, black malt, and Carafa. All
of the husks I could see were light in color. Not a problem, just a
question.
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Date: 18 Dec 2006 16:15:31
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: husks of dark grains
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On 17 Dec 2006 12:40:30 -0800, <jkrehbielp@gmail.com > wrote:
> OK, probably a stoopid question, but I have noticed that when I grind
> dark grains with pale ale malt, all the husks look light. Does roasting
> make the husks more brittle? Do they get burned off?
>
> Today I made a porter with pale ale malt, black malt, and Carafa. All
> of the husks I could see were light in color. Not a problem, just a
> question.
Probably a combination of the husks being more brittle and the fact that
dark grains usually make up a much smaller portion of the total grist
than the pale ale malt. Does the Carafa have any husks? I seem to
remember something about that one being "dehusked", so it's probably
just the black malt.
John.
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 14:10:49
From: Steve Jones
Subject: Re: husks of dark grains
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In article <slrneodg05.70s.spam@weizen.shagg.net >,
John 'Shaggy' Kolesar <spam@shagg.net > wrote:
> On 17 Dec 2006 12:40:30 -0800, <jkrehbielp@gmail.com> wrote:
> > OK, probably a stoopid question, but I have noticed that when I grind
> > dark grains with pale ale malt, all the husks look light. Does roasting
> > make the husks more brittle? Do they get burned off?
> >
> > Today I made a porter with pale ale malt, black malt, and Carafa. All
> > of the husks I could see were light in color. Not a problem, just a
> > question.
>
> Probably a combination of the husks being more brittle and the fact that
> dark grains usually make up a much smaller portion of the total grist
> than the pale ale malt. Does the Carafa have any husks? I seem to
> remember something about that one being "dehusked", so it's probably
> just the black malt.
>
>
> John.
I think there's Carafa, and Carafa Special, the latter being the
de-husked version.
Steve
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 11:24:02
From: Denny Conn
Subject: Re: husks of dark grains
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Steve Jones wrote:
> I think there's Carafa, and Carafa Special, the latter being the
> de-husked version.
My new love for getting color without flavor in dark beers is Sinamr.
It's an extract made from dehusked carafa. You just add it to the
kettle, keg, or glass until you get just the color you want. I've been
using it in alts for a couple years. I just kegged a batch of dubble
that came out too light, so I added a couple oz. to the keg.
------------- >Denny
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Life begins at 60...1.060, that is.
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 19:40:56
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: husks of dark grains
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On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 11:24:02 -0800, <denny.g.conn@ci.eugene.or.us > wrote:
> Steve Jones wrote:
>
>> I think there's Carafa, and Carafa Special, the latter being the
>> de-husked version.
>
> My new love for getting color without flavor in dark beers is Sinamr.
> It's an extract made from dehusked carafa. You just add it to the
> kettle, keg, or glass until you get just the color you want. I've been
> using it in alts for a couple years. I just kegged a batch of dubble
> that came out too light, so I added a couple oz. to the keg.
Does that imply that carafa doesn't impart much flavor, or do they do
something special when making the Sinamr extract to get rid of it?
John.
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 11:45:19
From: Denny Conn
Subject: Re: husks of dark grains
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John 'Shaggy' Kolesar wrote:
> Does that imply that carafa doesn't impart much flavor, or do they do
> something special when making the Sinamr extract to get rid of it?
The small amounts of carafa (1-2 oz.) that I typically use for color
impart no taste that I can detect. Sinamar has that same quality, but
is much easier to use since you just add it til it looks right!
---------- >Denny
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Life begins at 60...1.060, that is.
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 20:30:09
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: husks of dark grains
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On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 11:45:19 -0800, <denny.g.conn@ci.eugene.or.us > wrote:
> John 'Shaggy' Kolesar wrote:
>
>> Does that imply that carafa doesn't impart much flavor, or do they do
>> something special when making the Sinamr extract to get rid of it?
>
> The small amounts of carafa (1-2 oz.) that I typically use for color
> impart no taste that I can detect. Sinamar has that same quality, but
> is much easier to use since you just add it til it looks right!
Yeah, I wouldn't expect small amounts like that to add much flavor. Sounds
similar to advice about adding a small handful of black patent to get
the color in a "red" beer.
John.
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