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Date: 25 May 2006 20:24:46
From: Gerard Eberlein
Subject: how long do sanitized items like bottles stay sanitized
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Just wondering how long before I bottle can I sanitize my bottles. I don't
have a "tree" so I will be turning them upside down in the cases on clean
paper towels to let them air dry. Can I bottle when they are still wet? Can
I let them completely dry, which would take at least a day I'm assuming?
Thanx in advance.
Gerard
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Date: 26 May 2006 02:55:01
From: QD Steve
Subject: Re: how long do sanitized items like bottles stay sanitized
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"Gerard Eberlein" <dormouse@charter.net > wrote in message
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> Just wondering how long before I bottle can I sanitize my bottles. I don't
> have a "tree" so I will be turning them upside down in the cases on clean
> paper towels to let them air dry. Can I bottle when they are still wet?
> Can
> I let them completely dry, which would take at least a day I'm assuming?
> Thanx in advance.
>
> Gerard
>
>
Bottle (crown) caps are cheap, in fact very cheap. Sanitize you bottles and
cap them empty with sanitized caps. If you use food grade phoshoric acid to
sanitise, residual solution will not harm your beer or change the flavor in
any way as small amounts of phosphoric acid occur naturally in beer anyway.
Although I never thought of it before, using pre-sanitized bottles would
make bottling day a bit less tedious.
(notice how many z's I used, I'm learning American!)
Steve W (in Aus)
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Date: 26 May 2006 08:37:21
From: Mark R
Subject: Re: how long do sanitized items like bottles stay sanitized
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"QD Steve" <adlab@bigponddotnetdotau.trashthisbit > wrote in message
> Bottle (crown) caps are cheap, in fact very cheap. Sanitize you bottles
and
> cap them empty with sanitized caps. If you use food grade phoshoric acid
to
> sanitise, residual solution will not harm your beer or change the flavor
in
> any way as small amounts of phosphoric acid occur naturally in beer
anyway.
> Although I never thought of it before, using pre-sanitized bottles would
> make bottling day a bit less tedious.
> (notice how many z's I used, I'm learning American!)
> Steve W (in Aus)
And you left the U out of "flavour" :-)
Mark R
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Date: 26 May 2006 07:39:11
From: KGB (KGB)
Subject: Re: how long do sanitized items like bottles stay sanitized
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<SNIP >
>(notice how many z's I used, I'm learning American!)
>Steve W (in Aus)
Shouldn't that be - in Ozz?? 8^)
Regardz
KGB
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Date: 25 May 2006 19:10:05
From: HoundDog
Subject: Re: how long do sanitized items like bottles stay sanitized
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>>Just wondering how long before I bottle can I sanitize my bottles.<<
indefinitely if you keep them out of air and dust, but that's prob not
practical. bacteria moves via dust, it does not have legs to crawl
into your bottle. look up the louis pasteur broth experiment....
>>I don't
have a "tree" so I will be turning them upside down in the cases on
clean
paper towels to let them air dry. <<
if you must, but there is risk involved, depends on your comfort level
>>Can I bottle when they are still wet?<<
depends on your sanitizer. i believe the oxidizing santizers work by
evaporation, so they really don't complete the job until the bottle is
dry. i use star san and its a little more liberal with wet vs. dry.
btw, i believe off flavors in my bottled beer were caused by not
rinsing the oxidizing sanitizers and that's why i switched to star san.
>>Can
I let them completely dry, which would take at least a day I'm
assuming?<<
I sanitize on friday nite and bottle sat morning, they're dry by then.
if you use really hot water for your solution and let the bottles sit
for a bit in it, they get hot enough to speed the drying process on a
tree to bottle within 1-2 hours.
another option i am going to try is my dishwasher with an NSF
sanitizing feature. no sanitizer, just water and heat.
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Date: 25 May 2006 22:38:41
From: Gerard Eberlein
Subject: Re: how long do sanitized items like bottles stay sanitized
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"HoundDog" <hounddog@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1148609405.528552.265310@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >>Just wondering how long before I bottle can I sanitize my bottles.<<
>
> indefinitely if you keep them out of air and dust, but that's prob not
> practical. bacteria moves via dust, it does not have legs to crawl
> into your bottle. look up the louis pasteur broth experiment....
>
> >>I don't
> have a "tree" so I will be turning them upside down in the cases on
> clean
> paper towels to let them air dry. <<
>
> if you must, but there is risk involved, depends on your comfort level
>
> >>Can I bottle when they are still wet?<<
>
> depends on your sanitizer. i believe the oxidizing santizers work by
> evaporation, so they really don't complete the job until the bottle is
> dry. i use star san and its a little more liberal with wet vs. dry.
> btw, i believe off flavors in my bottled beer were caused by not
> rinsing the oxidizing sanitizers and that's why i switched to star san.
>
>
> >>Can
> I let them completely dry, which would take at least a day I'm
> assuming?<<
>
> I sanitize on friday nite and bottle sat morning, they're dry by then.
> if you use really hot water for your solution and let the bottles sit
> for a bit in it, they get hot enough to speed the drying process on a
> tree to bottle within 1-2 hours.
>
> another option i am going to try is my dishwasher with an NSF
> sanitizing feature. no sanitizer, just water and heat.
>
I'm using BTF idophor, no rinse
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Date: 26 May 2006 15:18:14
From: Derric
Subject: Re: how long do sanitized items like bottles stay sanitized
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> Just wondering how long before I bottle can I sanitize my bottles.
...
> I'm using BTF idophor, no rinse
As others have said, you can leave them indefinitely. I have sanitized
from one day to two weeks ahead of bottling. I use bleach, rinse and
drain, then stand them all upright and put "Saran" wrap over them all.
They'll keep like that for a very long time. To summarize someone else:
keep the dust out and you'll keep the bacteria out. (Aluminum foil
would work fine too).
Derric
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Date: 26 May 2006 14:38:44
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: how long do sanitized items like bottles stay sanitized
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On Thu, 25 May 2006 22:38:41 -0400, <dormouse@charter.net > wrote:
> I'm using BTF idophor, no rinse
In that case you can bottle while they are still wet, that's why it's
called no rinse. Small amounts left over will not have any effect on the
beer. Sanitize, turn them over and let them drain, then bottle.
John.
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Date: 26 May 2006 09:30:33
From: John Krehbiel
Subject: Re: how long do sanitized items like bottles stay sanitized
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But do you say "zee" or "zed" down there?
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Date: 27 May 2006 17:18:28
From: two bob
Subject: Re: how long do sanitized items like bottles stay sanitized
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> But do you say "zee" or "zed" down there?
>
We say it the correct way! Same as we drive on the correct side of the road
;)
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Date: 27 May 2006 17:16:17
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: how long do sanitized items like bottles stay sanitized
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>> But do you say "zee" or "zed" down there?
> We say it the correct way! Same as we drive on the correct
> side of the road ;)
rotflmao - you'all just do what your masters in England told
you do. What is it - the UK, Ireland, NZ, OZ, and Japan where
they drive on the left side of the road. I don't know about
Hong Kong or South Africa. But the rest of the civilized world
drive on the right!
Here in the USA we are told "Fosters is Australian for Beer".
I hope that is not true cause it's just as bad as American
Swill. Is there a beer that is uniquely Australian?
Dick
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Date: 28 May 2006 12:25:06
From: two bob
Subject: Re: how long do sanitized items like bottles stay sanitized
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"Dick Adams" <rdadams@smart.net > wrote in message
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>>> But do you say "zee" or "zed" down there?
>
>> We say it the correct way! Same as we drive on the correct
>> side of the road ;)
>
> rotflmao - you'all just do what your masters in England told
> you do. What is it - the UK, Ireland, NZ, OZ, and Japan where
> they drive on the left side of the road. I don't know about
> Hong Kong or South Africa. But the rest of the civilized world
> drive on the right!
"Civilized world?" well, thats a whole different subject for a different
group.
>
> Here in the USA we are told "Fosters is Australian for Beer".
> I hope that is not true cause it's just as bad as American
> Swill. Is there a beer that is uniquely Australian?
We have plenty of good beers, we just send the crap over to you lot, 'cause
we know you like bad beers. I haven't seen anyone drink fosters here for
nearly 30 years. We have another one that you would like as well it's from
Queensland. Unfortunately they cant spell in that state so they call it
XXXX, (pron = 4 ex).
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Date: 28 May 2006 10:22:27
From: Mark R
Subject: Re: how long do sanitized items like bottles stay sanitized
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"two bob" <tb@department9.com.au > wrote in message
> We have another one that you would like as well it's from
> Queensland. Unfortunately they cant spell in that state so they call it
> XXXX, (pron = 4 ex).
They must have twice the education of the brewers in Mexico who brew XX
;-)
Mark R
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