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Date: 08 Dec 2006 21:12:01
From: 2fatbbq
Subject: hops help--need suggestions
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gonna brew an ale tomorrow--and in my hop stash is a bunch of Sorachi
Ace--high AA(13+%)--just wondering where in the cooking process they would
work best? Also have an ample supply of Cascade, Nugget, Fuggle and
Northern Brewer in the freezer--combo suggestions?
recipe
3.3lb Amber LME
3 lb light DME
2 lb Honey
1 lb crystal 20L
1/4lb chocolate
yeast will probably be Pacman or maybe Safale S 56
Thanks
Buzz
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Date: 08 Dec 2006 22:20:01
From: Dan Logcher
Subject: Re: hops help--need suggestions
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2fatbbq wrote:
> gonna brew an ale tomorrow--and in my hop stash is a bunch of Sorachi
> Ace--high AA(13+%)--just wondering where in the cooking process they would
> work best? Also have an ample supply of Cascade, Nugget, Fuggle and
> Northern Brewer in the freezer--combo suggestions?
>
> recipe
> 3.3lb Amber LME
> 3 lb light DME
> 2 lb Honey
> 1 lb crystal 20L
> 1/4lb chocolate
>
> yeast will probably be Pacman or maybe Safale S 56
1oz N. Brewer 60min
1oz Cascade 15min
1.25oz Cascade 5min
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Dan
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Date: 09 Dec 2006 08:21:37
From: 2fatbbq
Subject: Re: hops help--need suggestions
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"Dan Logcher" <dlogcher*xspam*@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:457a2b62$0$570$b45e6eb0@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu...
> 2fatbbq wrote:
>> gonna brew an ale tomorrow--and in my hop stash is a bunch of Sorachi
>> Ace--high AA(13+%)--just wondering where in the cooking process they
>> would work best? Also have an ample supply of Cascade, Nugget, Fuggle
>> and Northern Brewer in the freezer--combo suggestions?
>>
>> recipe
>> 3.3lb Amber LME
>> 3 lb light DME
>> 2 lb Honey
>> 1 lb crystal 20L
>> 1/4lb chocolate
>>
>> yeast will probably be Pacman or maybe Safale S 56
>
> 1oz N. Brewer 60min
> 1oz Cascade 15min
> 1.25oz Cascade 5min
>
thanks---think that was the direction I was headed---as soon as the temp
gets to about 20°F gonna start brewing
Buzz
> --
> Dan
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Date: 09 Dec 2006 10:26:10
From: Dan Logcher
Subject: Re: hops help--need suggestions
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2fatbbq wrote:
> "Dan Logcher" <dlogcher*xspam*@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:457a2b62$0$570$b45e6eb0@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu...
>
>>2fatbbq wrote:
>>
>>>gonna brew an ale tomorrow--and in my hop stash is a bunch of Sorachi
>>>Ace--high AA(13+%)--just wondering where in the cooking process they
>>>would work best? Also have an ample supply of Cascade, Nugget, Fuggle
>>>and Northern Brewer in the freezer--combo suggestions?
>>>
>>>recipe
>>>3.3lb Amber LME
>>>3 lb light DME
>>>2 lb Honey
>>>1 lb crystal 20L
>>>1/4lb chocolate
>>>
>>>yeast will probably be Pacman or maybe Safale S 56
>>
>>1oz N. Brewer 60min
>>1oz Cascade 15min
>>1.25oz Cascade 5min
>>
>
> thanks---think that was the direction I was headed---as soon as the temp
> gets to about 20°F gonna start brewing
I really like the flavor and aroma of Cascade.. I typically use Perle
for bittering, but have done Northern Brewer as well. I have also used
Tetnanger for flavor and aroma, though its a little more subtle.
My first batch I tried East Kent Golding for bittering, but found it wasn't
what I was looking for.
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Dan
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Date: 09 Dec 2006 10:03:42
From: 2fatbbq
Subject: Re: hops help--need suggestions
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"Dan Logcher" <dlogcher*xspam*@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:457ad593$0$565$b45e6eb0@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu...
> 2fatbbq wrote:
>> "Dan Logcher" <dlogcher*xspam*@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:457a2b62$0$570$b45e6eb0@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu...
>>
>>>2fatbbq wrote:
>>>
>>>>gonna brew an ale tomorrow--and in my hop stash is a bunch of Sorachi
>>>>Ace--high AA(13+%)--just wondering where in the cooking process they
>>>>would work best? Also have an ample supply of Cascade, Nugget, Fuggle
>>>>and Northern Brewer in the freezer--combo suggestions?
>>>>
>>>>recipe
>>>>3.3lb Amber LME
>>>>3 lb light DME
>>>>2 lb Honey
>>>>1 lb crystal 20L
>>>>1/4lb chocolate
>>>>
>>>>yeast will probably be Pacman or maybe Safale S 56
>>>
>>>1oz N. Brewer 60min
>>>1oz Cascade 15min
>>>1.25oz Cascade 5min
>>>
>>
>> thanks---think that was the direction I was headed---as soon as the temp
>> gets to about 20°F gonna start brewing
>
> I really like the flavor and aroma of Cascade.. I typically use Perle
> for bittering, but have done Northern Brewer as well. I have also used
> Tetnanger for flavor and aroma, though its a little more subtle.
>
> My first batch I tried East Kent Golding for bittering, but found it
> wasn't
> what I was looking for.
>
I use alot of northern brewer for bittering and aroma too--this batch will
about finish the cascade but gonna have to try the Sorachi Ace in the next
pale ale!
Buzz
> --
> Dan
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Date: 11 Dec 2006 16:05:37
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: hops help--need suggestions
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On Fri, 8 Dec 2006 21:12:01 -0600, <2fatbbq@gmail.com > wrote:
> gonna brew an ale tomorrow--and in my hop stash is a bunch of Sorachi
> Ace--high AA(13+%)--just wondering where in the cooking process they would
> work best?
In general, high AA hops like that work best as the bitterness addition.
That's the most efficient use of their higher AAs.
John.
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Date: 11 Dec 2006 17:40:46
From: 2fatbbq
Subject: Re: hops help--need suggestions
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"John 'Shaggy' Kolesar" <spam@shagg.net > wrote in message
news:slrnenr0p6.bek.spam@weizen.shagg.net...
> On Fri, 8 Dec 2006 21:12:01 -0600, <2fatbbq@gmail.com> wrote:
>> gonna brew an ale tomorrow--and in my hop stash is a bunch of Sorachi
>> Ace--high AA(13+%)--just wondering where in the cooking process they
>> would
>> work best?
>
> In general, high AA hops like that work best as the bitterness addition.
> That's the most efficient use of their higher AAs.
>
Thanks more stuff I didn't know!!! Life really is good!
Buzz'd in the middle of Wisc.
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Date: 12 Dec 2006 09:08:02
From: Denny Conn
Subject: Re: hops help--need suggestions
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John 'Shaggy' Kolesar wrote:
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> On Fri, 8 Dec 2006 21:12:01 -0600, <2fatbbq@gmail.com> wrote:
> > gonna brew an ale tomorrow--and in my hop stash is a bunch of Sorachi
> > Ace--high AA(13+%)--just wondering where in the cooking process they would
> > work best?
>
> In general, high AA hops like that work best as the bitterness addition.
> That's the most efficient use of their higher AAs.
I've gotta disagree a bit, or at least expand on this. You shouldn't
necessarily get into the idea that high alpha hops are ONLY for
bittering. A lot of them also work really well for flavor and
aroma...Columbus is one example.
----------- >Denny
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Life begins at 60...1.060, that is.
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Date: 12 Dec 2006 19:49:12
From: Tony Verhulst
Subject: Re: hops help--need suggestions
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> I've gotta disagree a bit, or at least expand on this. You shouldn't
> necessarily get into the idea that high alpha hops are ONLY for
> bittering. A lot of them also work really well for flavor and
> aroma...Columbus is one example.
As is Northern Brewer. Check out any steam beer.... excuse me,
California common ale. But in *general* the statement is correct, IMHO.
Galena as a flavor hop? I think not.
Tony V.
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Date: 12 Dec 2006 21:29:40
From:
Subject: Re: hops help--need suggestions
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: I've gotta disagree a bit, or at least expand on this. You shouldn't
: necessarily get into the idea that high alpha hops are ONLY for
: bittering. A lot of them also work really well for flavor and
: aroma...Columbus is one example.
Mmmmm... Columbus hops...
:)
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* Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D., PPSEL-IA *
* Electrical Engineering *
* Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University *
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Date: 13 Dec 2006 14:06:49
From: Joel
Subject: Re: hops help--need suggestions
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Denny Conn <denny.g.conn@ci.eugene.or.us > wrote:
>John 'Shaggy' Kolesar wrote:
>> On Fri, 8 Dec 2006 21:12:01 -0600, <2fatbbq@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > gonna brew an ale tomorrow--and in my hop stash is a bunch of Sorachi
>> > Ace--high AA(13+%)--just wondering where in the cooking process they would
>> > work best?
>>
>> In general, high AA hops like that work best as the bitterness addition.
>> That's the most efficient use of their higher AAs.
>
>I've gotta disagree a bit, or at least expand on this. You shouldn't
>necessarily get into the idea that high alpha hops are ONLY for
>bittering. A lot of them also work really well for flavor and
>aroma...Columbus is one example.
I'd go further, and say that in general any hop is good
anywhere. The only generalization I'd make is the inverse
of the "efficiency" statement-- low-alpha hops aren't
efficient for high-bitterness beers. It's not like we're
paying more for alpha acid levels; in most cases hops cost
the same per ounce, so why not use flavorful high-alpha
hops for flavor and aroma?
I've got my single-hop Chinook pale ale on tap right now,
and it's quite nice. It was a bit harsh and low on flavor
when very young (at racking), but it is smooth and flavorful
now, five weeks after brewing.
--
Joel Plutchak
"Things just fall apart." - Now They'll Sleep (Belly)
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Date: 13 Dec 2006 16:26:00
From:
Subject: Re: hops help--need suggestions
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: I'd go further, and say that in general any hop is good
: anywhere. The only generalization I'd make is the inverse
: of the "efficiency" statement-- low-alpha hops aren't
: efficient for high-bitterness beers. It's not like we're
: paying more for alpha acid levels; in most cases hops cost
: the same per ounce, so why not use flavorful high-alpha
: hops for flavor and aroma?
: I've got my single-hop Chinook pale ale on tap right now,
: and it's quite nice. It was a bit harsh and low on flavor
: when very young (at racking), but it is smooth and flavorful
: now, five weeks after brewing.
: --
: Joel Plutchak
I've made single-hop Chinook IPA's before and agree that they're a bit harsh
when young. Used either in moderation or after aging however, it can be quite nice.
Then again, I've also used only Cascade for bittering an IPA. Aside from the
strangeness of the significant citrus flavor, it's quite good.
-Cory
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* Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D., PPSEL-IA *
* Electrical Engineering *
* Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University *
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Date: 13 Dec 2006 19:35:24
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: hops help--need suggestions
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On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 09:08:02 -0800, <denny.g.conn@ci.eugene.or.us > wrote:
> John 'Shaggy' Kolesar wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 8 Dec 2006 21:12:01 -0600, <2fatbbq@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > gonna brew an ale tomorrow--and in my hop stash is a bunch of Sorachi
>> > Ace--high AA(13+%)--just wondering where in the cooking process they would
>> > work best?
>>
>> In general, high AA hops like that work best as the bitterness addition.
>> That's the most efficient use of their higher AAs.
>
> I've gotta disagree a bit, or at least expand on this. You shouldn't
> necessarily get into the idea that high alpha hops are ONLY for
> bittering. A lot of them also work really well for flavor and
> aroma...Columbus is one example.
True, I didn't mean to imply that they couldn't be used for other additions.
John.
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Date: 13 Dec 2006 11:25:08
From: Gerard Eberlein
Subject: Re: hops help--need suggestions
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"2fatbbq" <2fatbbq@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:4tunkgF15mengU1@mid.individual.net...
> gonna brew an ale tomorrow--and in my hop stash is a bunch of Sorachi
> Ace--high AA(13+%)--just wondering where in the cooking process they would
> work best? Also have an ample supply of Cascade, Nugget, Fuggle and
> Northern Brewer in the freezer--combo suggestions?
>
> recipe
> 3.3lb Amber LME
> 3 lb light DME
> 2 lb Honey
> 1 lb crystal 20L
> 1/4lb chocolate
>
> yeast will probably be Pacman or maybe Safale S 56
>
> Thanks
>
> Buzz
>
>
Not to mention Simcoe...works great for bittering, high AA low cohumulone,
great lemon/citrus taste and aroma.
Gerard
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