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Date: 11 Sep 2006 10:26:36
From: Gerard Eberlein
Subject: "harsh" hops
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I know very little about hops still, chemical compounds and such so I did a
google on noble hops...on wikpedia I found this information:
The term Noble hops traditionally refers to four varieties of hop which are
low in bitterness and high in aroma. They are the central European
cultivars, 'Hallertauer Mittelfrueh', 'Tettnanger', 'Spalter', and 'Saaz'.
They are each named for a specific region or city in which they were first
grown or primarily grown. They contain high amounts of the hop oil humulene
and low amounts of alpha acids cohumulone and adhumulone,
**** as well as lower amounts of the harsher-tasting beta acids lupulone,
colupulone, and adlupulone. ****
Humulene imparts an elegant, refined taste and aroma to beers containing it.
Like I said I don't know alot, I'm still a NOOB and was looking up noble
hops and remembered this thread when I saw chemicals in certain hops being
"harsh". Just thought it might be of interest.
Gerard
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Date: 11 Sep 2006 09:41:54
From: Alf McLaughlin
Subject: Re: "harsh" hops
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> Great story about Wikipedia on NPR this morning. They quoted Stephen
> Colbert as calling it "the democratization of knowledge"!
Did you know the population of elephants has tripled in the last year??
I think I might change that entry in Wikipedia myself to declare that
hops taste almost exactly like strawberries.
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Date: 11 Sep 2006 14:42:51
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: "harsh" hops
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On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 10:26:36 -0400, <dormouse@charter.net > wrote:
> I know very little about hops still, chemical compounds and such so I did a
> google on noble hops...on wikpedia I found this information:
>
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>
> Like I said I don't know alot, I'm still a NOOB and was looking up noble
> hops and remembered this thread when I saw chemicals in certain hops being
> "harsh". Just thought it might be of interest.
Noble hops are generally of the "smooth" bitterness type. They tend to have
lower AA% than other types, and relatively low cohumulone levels.
John.
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Date: 11 Sep 2006 10:47:18
From: Gerard Eberlein
Subject: Re: "harsh" hops
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"John 'Shaggy' Kolesar" <spam@shagg.net > wrote in message
news:slrnegatl3.181.spam@weizen.shagg.net...
> On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 10:26:36 -0400, <dormouse@charter.net> wrote:
> > I know very little about hops still, chemical compounds and such so I
did a
> > google on noble hops...on wikpedia I found this information:
> >
>
> ...
>
> >
> > Like I said I don't know alot, I'm still a NOOB and was looking up noble
> > hops and remembered this thread when I saw chemicals in certain hops
being
> > "harsh". Just thought it might be of interest.
>
> Noble hops are generally of the "smooth" bitterness type. They tend to
have
> lower AA% than other types, and relatively low cohumulone levels.
>
>
> John.
Yea, I'm learning...I just thought it would be of interest after reading the
heated debate of the "bittering hops" thread.
Gerard
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Date: 11 Sep 2006 16:18:08
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: "harsh" hops
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On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 10:47:18 -0400, <dormouse@charter.net > wrote:
> Yea, I'm learning...I just thought it would be of interest after reading the
> heated debate of the "bittering hops" thread.
I don't remember a heated debate. Some flaming/trolling going on, but the
posts I remember that were actually on topic all seemed to be of the
relatively same opinion.
John.
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Date: 12 Sep 2006 07:27:12
From: Walter Venables
Subject: Re: "harsh" hops
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Here is a good source of info
http://www.hopunion.com/education.shtml
Walter
--
The speed of light is faster than the speed of sound. This explains why some
people appear to be bright until they open their mouth.
"John 'Shaggy' Kolesar" <spam@shagg.net > wrote in message
news:slrnegb37p.181.spam@weizen.shagg.net...
> On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 10:47:18 -0400, <dormouse@charter.net> wrote:
> > Yea, I'm learning...I just thought it would be of interest after reading
the
> > heated debate of the "bittering hops" thread.
>
> I don't remember a heated debate. Some flaming/trolling going on, but the
> posts I remember that were actually on topic all seemed to be of the
> relatively same opinion.
>
>
> John.
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Date: 11 Sep 2006 09:13:36
From: Denny Conn
Subject: Re: "harsh" hops
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Gerard Eberlein wrote:
> Yea, I'm learning...I just thought it would be of interest after reading the
> heated debate of the "bittering hops" thread.
I'mn sorry, but I can't take ANYTHING from Wikipedia seriously, even
when I think they're correct!
----------- >Denny
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Life begins at 60...1.060, that is.
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Date: 11 Sep 2006 16:19:54
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: "harsh" hops
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On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 09:13:36 -0700, <denny.g.conn@ci.eugene.or.us > wrote:
> Gerard Eberlein wrote:
>
>> Yea, I'm learning...I just thought it would be of interest after reading the
>> heated debate of the "bittering hops" thread.
>
> I'mn sorry, but I can't take ANYTHING from Wikipedia seriously, even
> when I think they're correct!
I think of it the same way as anything else on the internet. It's worth
looking at, but you want to take it with a couple grains of salt.
John.
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Date: 11 Sep 2006 09:31:43
From: Denny Conn
Subject: Re: "harsh" hops
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John 'Shaggy' Kolesar wrote:
> I think of it the same way as anything else on the internet. It's worth
> looking at, but you want to take it with a couple grains of salt.
Great story about Wikipedia on NPR this morning. They quoted Stephen
Colbert as calling it "the democratization of knowledge"!
---------- >Denny
--
Life begins at 60...1.060, that is.
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Date: 11 Sep 2006 09:54:21
From: Denny Conn
Subject: Re: "harsh" hops
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Alf McLaughlin wrote:
> Did you know the population of elephants has tripled in the last year??
So I heard!! :)
> I think I might change that entry in Wikipedia myself to declare that
> hops taste almost exactly like strawberries.
Well, they DO!!!! ;)
-------- >Denny
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Life begins at 60...1.060, that is.
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Date: 12 Sep 2006 11:58:21
From: John Krehbiel
Subject: Re: "harsh" hops
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Denny Conn wrote:
> Gerard Eberlein wrote:
>
> > Yea, I'm learning...I just thought it would be of interest after reading the
> > heated debate of the "bittering hops" thread.
>
> I'mn sorry, but I can't take ANYTHING from Wikipedia seriously, even
> when I think they're correct!
>
> ----------->Denny
>
> --
> Life begins at 60...1.060, that is.
I understand that an accuracy check of Wikipedia said they were
comparable to the Encyclopedia Brittanica.
On the Colbert Report, the host changed the Elephant entry to say that
the population of elephants had trippled in the last six months. It was
corrected within hours.
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Date: 13 Sep 2006 09:52:26
From: OrganicVeggie
Subject: Re: "harsh" hops
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> >> Here is a good source of info
> >>
> >> http://www.hopunion.com/education.shtml
> >
> >Does anyone know of a good source of information that lists the major
> >hop varieties and their levels of cohumulone?
>
> http://www.hopunion.com/hopunion-variety-databook.pdf
Hah! That's great! I looked right at that link on HopUnion's site and
assumed it was something else, so I didn't download it. D'oh!
Thanks for the heads up. That was exactly what I was looking for!
-Sean
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I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it."
--- Groucho Marx
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Date: 13 Sep 2006 06:56:09
From: OrganicVeggie
Subject: Re: "harsh" hops
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Walter Venables wrote:
> Here is a good source of info
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> http://www.hopunion.com/education.shtml
Does anyone know of a good source of information that lists the major
hop varieties and their levels of cohumulone?
-Sean
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You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline. It
helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear
weapons, but at the very least, you need a beer.
-- Frank Zappa
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Date: 13 Sep 2006 10:41:05
From: Jim Stansell
Subject: Re: "harsh" hops
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On 13 Sep 2006 06:56:09 -0700, "OrganicVeggie"
<organicveggie@gmail.com > wrote:
>Walter Venables wrote:
>> Here is a good source of info
>>
>> http://www.hopunion.com/education.shtml
>
>Does anyone know of a good source of information that lists the major
>hop varieties and their levels of cohumulone?
>
>-Sean
http://www.hopunion.com/hopunion-variety-databook.pdf
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Date: 13 Sep 2006 17:12:07
From: David M. Taylor
Subject: Re: "harsh" hops
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"OrganicVeggie" <organicveggie@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1158155769.011484.27820@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> Walter Venables wrote:
>> Here is a good source of info
>>
>> http://www.hopunion.com/education.shtml
>
> Does anyone know of a good source of information that lists the major
> hop varieties and their levels of cohumulone?
Ray Daniels' "Designing Great Beers" for starters. Excellent book.
--
Dave
"Just a drink, a little drink, and I'll be feeling GOOooOOooOOooD!" --
Genesis, 1973-ish
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