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Date: 07 Aug 2006 18:44:59
From: Jim
Subject: gordon biersch Banana flavor
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I was just at gordon biersch and they had a wheat beer with a banana
flavor. I recall someone posting they had the same results. Whats the
secret?
Jim
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Date: 08 Aug 2006 01:16:31
From: Brian
Subject: Re: gordon biersch Banana flavor
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It's all in the yeast......
"Jim" <Jim@no.com > wrote in message
news:FnPBg.521$vj1.398@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>I was just at gordon biersch and they had a wheat beer with a banana
>flavor. I recall someone posting they had the same results. Whats the
>secret?
>
> Jim
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Date: 07 Aug 2006 21:31:41
From: Jim
Subject: Re: gordon biersch Banana flavor
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Brian wrote on 8/7/2006 9:16 PM:
> It's all in the yeast......
>
>
> "Jim" <Jim@no.com> wrote in message
> news:FnPBg.521$vj1.398@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>> I was just at gordon biersch and they had a wheat beer with a banana
>> flavor. I recall someone posting they had the same results. Whats the
>> secret?
>>
>> Jim
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>
Can you be more specific?
Jim
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Date: 07 Aug 2006 16:03:38
From: Ryan Case
Subject: Re: gordon biersch Banana flavor
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Jim wrote:
> I was just at gordon biersch and they had a wheat beer with a banana
> flavor. I recall someone posting they had the same results. Whats the
> secret?
>
> Jim
Where do you live, I have half a corny you can have!
All I did was ferment the primary on a hefe warm and then secondary at
60F. Smells and tastes like mild ripe bananas.
Ryan who is barely a hefe fan to begin with and has been pushed over the
edge with this one.
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Date: 07 Aug 2006 21:31:56
From: Jim
Subject: Re: gordon biersch Banana flavor
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Ryan Case wrote on 8/7/2006 7:03 PM:
> Jim wrote:
>> I was just at gordon biersch and they had a wheat beer with a banana
>> flavor. I recall someone posting they had the same results. Whats the
>> secret?
>>
>> Jim
>
> Where do you live, I have half a corny you can have!
>
> All I did was ferment the primary on a hefe warm and then secondary at
> 60F. Smells and tastes like mild ripe bananas.
>
> Ryan who is barely a hefe fan to begin with and has been pushed over the
> edge with this one.
Are you talking about yourself in the 3rd person?
Jim
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Date: 08 Aug 2006 06:49:54
From: Ryan Case
Subject: Re: gordon biersch Banana flavor
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Jim wrote:
> Ryan Case wrote on 8/7/2006 7:03 PM:
>> Jim wrote:
>>> I was just at gordon biersch and they had a wheat beer with a banana
>>> flavor. I recall someone posting they had the same results. Whats the
>>> secret?
>>>
>>> Jim
>>
>> Where do you live, I have half a corny you can have!
>>
>> All I did was ferment the primary on a hefe warm and then secondary at
>> 60F. Smells and tastes like mild ripe bananas.
>>
>> Ryan who is barely a hefe fan to begin with and has been pushed over
>> the edge with this one.
> Are you talking about yourself in the 3rd person?
>
> Jim
Yes, sorry I guess I should have used some sort of punctuation to make
that more clear.
But as another poster has said, just ferment a hefe too warm and you
will get plenty of banana.
Ryan
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Date: 08 Aug 2006 15:42:26
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: gordon biersch Banana flavor
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On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 18:44:59 -0400, <Jim@no.com > wrote:
> I was just at gordon biersch and they had a wheat beer with a banana
> flavor. I recall someone posting they had the same results. Whats the
> secret?
Banana and clove are common in wheat beers. It mainly comes from the yeast.
John.
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Date: 09 Aug 2006 07:22:00
From: Steve/Aus
Subject: Re: gordon biersch Banana flavor
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"John 'Shaggy' Kolesar" <spam@shagg.net > wrote in message
news:slrnedhcbe.omo.spam@weizen.shagg.net...
> On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 18:44:59 -0400, <Jim@no.com> wrote:
>> I was just at gordon biersch and they had a wheat beer with a banana
>> flavor. I recall someone posting they had the same results. Whats the
>> secret?
>
> Banana and clove are common in wheat beers. It mainly comes from the
> yeast.
>
>
> John.
I have no doubt you are correct here John.
I can't stand those flavours in beer and I can't stand Hoegaarden either
(Yuk!) so I'll never be making any.
However, I made an ale some time back with a fairly high proportion of wheat
and fermented it cool on Nottingham and it came out with very noticable
banana and clove, although a lot more subtle than say Hoe... (can't even SAY
that word, makes me cringe)
Steve W (in Aus)
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Date: 09 Aug 2006 14:29:02
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: gordon biersch Banana flavor
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On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 07:22:00 GMT, <adlab@bigponddotnetdotau.trashthisbit > wrote:
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> "John 'Shaggy' Kolesar" <spam@shagg.net> wrote in message
> news:slrnedhcbe.omo.spam@weizen.shagg.net...
>> On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 18:44:59 -0400, <Jim@no.com> wrote:
>>> I was just at gordon biersch and they had a wheat beer with a banana
>>> flavor. I recall someone posting they had the same results. Whats the
>>> secret?
>>
>> Banana and clove are common in wheat beers. It mainly comes from the
>> yeast.
>>
>>
>> John.
>
> I have no doubt you are correct here John.
> I can't stand those flavours in beer and I can't stand Hoegaarden either
> (Yuk!) so I'll never be making any.
> However, I made an ale some time back with a fairly high proportion of wheat
> and fermented it cool on Nottingham and it came out with very noticable
> banana and clove, although a lot more subtle than say Hoe... (can't even SAY
> that word, makes me cringe)
Yeah, I'd agree that wheat in general will give those characteristics. I
think the yeast enhances it a lot though. IMO, if you can't stand
banana/clove in beer then you'd probably want to avoid significant
proportions of wheat.
John.
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Date: 08 Aug 2006 07:26:24
From: Randal
Subject: Re: gordon biersch Banana flavor
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Jim wrote:
> Brian wrote on 8/7/2006 9:16 PM:
> > It's all in the yeast......
> >
> >
> Can you be more specific?
>
Yes, specifically use a bavarian yeast strain. Wyeast 3068 is the
Weihenstephan wheat yeast and will give you lots of good clove and
banana flavor. I happen to really like a funky hefeweizen full of those
flavors and this stuff does the trick.
_Randal
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Date: 08 Aug 2006 07:23:57
From: Richard Kaszeta
Subject: Re: gordon biersch Banana flavor
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Jim <Jim@no.com > writes:
> I was just at gordon biersch and they had a wheat beer with a banana
> flavor. I recall someone posting they had the same results. Whats the
> secret?
Ferment a hefe or a koelsch too warm, and you'll have all the banana
you want...
--
Richard W Kaszeta
rich@kaszeta.org
http://www.kaszeta.org/rich
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