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Date: 19 Jul 2006 10:31:47
From: Dave Smith
Subject: fermenting in a large crock pot


It is my understanding that in the 1800's people used large crock pot's
to ferment their beer in. I have come across one of these and the asking
price is $100. I do not NEED this item but it does sound interesting.
Any thoughts or potential problems?

Dave




 
Date: 19 Jul 2006 23:43:36
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: fermenting in a large crock pot


Dave Smith <dave@nowhere.com > wrote:
> It is my understanding that in the 1800's people used large crock pot's
> to ferment their beer in. I have come across one of these and the asking
> price is $100. I do not NEED this item but it does sound interesting.
> Any thoughts or potential problems?

I have two of them. My intention was to use them to ferment vegetables,
but found the inside glaze had broken down and contained lead.

You can buy a Harsh 5 liter fermentation crock pot for around $100.
http://www.simply-natural.biz/Harsch-Crock-Pot.php

Dick


 
Date: 19 Jul 2006 13:05:20
From: Alex
Subject: Re: fermenting in a large crock pot



Dave Smith wrote:
> In article <1Guvg.3521$us.844@trnddc04>, "Todd" <Noname@NoSpam.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > Most of the large crock pots are glazed. If the one you are looking at is
> > glazed, the glaze is not lead based, and is in good condition, you should be
> > able to clean and sanitize it, and it should be okay for fermenting.
>
>
> How could I verify that the glaze is not lead based? The lady says it
> has been in her family for at least 65 years but she is unsure of the
> actual age.
>
> Thanks for the info.
>
> Dave

If you go to walmart or the local home improvement store, they sell
little swabs for testing to see if there is lead in dried paint. I
assume they would work well for what you want as well.

Good luck!

Alex.



 
Date: 19 Jul 2006 13:05:00
From: Alex
Subject: Re: fermenting in a large crock pot



Dave Smith wrote:
> In article <1Guvg.3521$us.844@trnddc04>, "Todd" <Noname@NoSpam.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > Most of the large crock pots are glazed. If the one you are looking at is
> > glazed, the glaze is not lead based, and is in good condition, you should be
> > able to clean and sanitize it, and it should be okay for fermenting.
>
>
> How could I verify that the glaze is not lead based? The lady says it
> has been in her family for at least 65 years but she is unsure of the
> actual age.
>
> Thanks for the info.
>
> Dave

If you go to walmart or the local home improvement store, they sell
little swabs for testing to see if there is lead in dried paint. I
assume they would work well for what you want as well.

Good luck!

Alex.



  
Date: 19 Jul 2006 17:59:42
From: Mark R
Subject: Re: fermenting in a large crock pot



"Alex" <alex-brewer@rocketmail.com > wrote in message .
> >
> >
> > How could I verify that the glaze is not lead based? The lady says it
> > has been in her family for at least 65 years but she is unsure of the
> > actual age.
> >
> > Dave
>
> If you go to walmart or the local home improvement store, they sell
> little swabs for testing to see if there is lead in dried paint. I
> assume they would work well for what you want as well.
>
> Alex.

With it being 65 years old the safer assumption would be it has lead.
Because of the hard glazed surface you might not get an accurate test
unless you chip off a piece of the glaze and crush it up.

Mark R




   
Date: 20 Jul 2006 16:09:05
From: Todd
Subject: Re: fermenting in a large crock pot


"Mark R" <marknorayspam@noev1spam.net > wrote in message
news:12bte9ro0qrf942@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Alex" <alex-brewer@rocketmail.com> wrote in message .
> > >
> > >
> > > How could I verify that the glaze is not lead based? The lady says it
> > > has been in her family for at least 65 years but she is unsure of the
> > > actual age.
> > >
> > > Dave
> >
> > If you go to walmart or the local home improvement store, they sell
> > little swabs for testing to see if there is lead in dried paint. I
> > assume they would work well for what you want as well.
> >
> > Alex.
>
> With it being 65 years old the safer assumption would be it has lead.
> Because of the hard glazed surface you might not get an accurate test
> unless you chip off a piece of the glaze and crush it up.
>
> Mark R
>

Read the instructions on the test kit, and see if it mentions glaze, but I'm
going to guess that if you can't get enough lead out of the glaze for the
test kit to detect it, you aren't going to get it in your beer either.

Todd




   
Date: 21 Jul 2006 13:47:16
From: Dave Smith
Subject: Re: fermenting in a large crock pot


In article <12bte9ro0qrf942@corp.supernews.com >,
"Mark R" <marknorayspam@noev1spam.net > wrote:

> "Alex" <alex-brewer@rocketmail.com> wrote in message .

>
> With it being 65 years old the safer assumption would be it has lead.
> Because of the hard glazed surface you might not get an accurate test
> unless you chip off a piece of the glaze and crush it up.
>
> Mark R

Turns out the inside is not glazed. I think it must have just been a
water container rather than for beer. Oh well, it was interesting and I
learned alot. Thanks to everyone!

Dave


 
Date: 19 Jul 2006 17:39:43
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: fermenting in a large crock pot


On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 10:31:47 -0700, <dave@nowhere.com > wrote:
> It is my understanding that in the 1800's people used large crock pot's
> to ferment their beer in. I have come across one of these and the asking
> price is $100. I do not NEED this item but it does sound interesting.
> Any thoughts or potential problems?

A bucket or carboy would be a lot cheaper. If you want a crock pot,
then go ahead and get it. I wouldn't buy it just for brewing though.


John.


  
Date: 19 Jul 2006 11:02:03
From: Dave Smith
Subject: Re: fermenting in a large crock pot


In article <slrnebsrme.fcu.spam@weizen.shagg.net >,
John 'Shaggy' Kolesar <spam@shagg.net > wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 10:31:47 -0700, <dave@nowhere.com> wrote:
> > It is my understanding that in the 1800's people used large crock pot's
> > to ferment their beer in. I have come across one of these and the asking
> > price is $100. I do not NEED this item but it does sound interesting.
> > Any thoughts or potential problems?
>
> A bucket or carboy would be a lot cheaper. If you want a crock pot,
> then go ahead and get it. I wouldn't buy it just for brewing though.
>
>
> John.

Heh, well I certainly didn't think it was a cheap way to ferment. I was
thinking it would be "cool" but I also don't want to buy something that
won't make be suitable for making beer.

Dave


   
Date: 19 Jul 2006 19:36:30
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: fermenting in a large crock pot


On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 11:02:03 -0700, <dave@nowhere.com > wrote:
> In article <slrnebsrme.fcu.spam@weizen.shagg.net>,
> John 'Shaggy' Kolesar <spam@shagg.net> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 10:31:47 -0700, <dave@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> > It is my understanding that in the 1800's people used large crock pot's
>> > to ferment their beer in. I have come across one of these and the asking
>> > price is $100. I do not NEED this item but it does sound interesting.
>> > Any thoughts or potential problems?
>>
>> A bucket or carboy would be a lot cheaper. If you want a crock pot,
>> then go ahead and get it. I wouldn't buy it just for brewing though.
>>
>>
>> John.
>
> Heh, well I certainly didn't think it was a cheap way to ferment. I was
> thinking it would be "cool" but I also don't want to buy something that
> won't make be suitable for making beer.

You can ferment, at least primary, in just about anything as long as you
can get it clean/sanitized, it is water tight, and food grade. I assume it
doesn't have an airtight lid, so that may impact whether or not you think
it's alright to secondary/age in it.


John.


   
Date: 19 Jul 2006 18:16:29
From: Todd
Subject: Re: fermenting in a large crock pot


Most of the large crock pots are glazed. If the one you are looking at is
glazed, the glaze is not lead based, and is in good condition, you should be
able to clean and sanitize it, and it should be okay for fermenting.

If its not glazed, it would not be suitable. Some large unglazed pots when
filled with water, will slowly leak water to the outside of the crock, which
evaporates and cools the water in the crock, but the crock would be very
difficult to clean or sanitize.

Todd

"Dave Smith" <dave@nowhere.com > wrote in message
news:dave-85853E.11020319072006@nntp.charter.net...
> In article <slrnebsrme.fcu.spam@weizen.shagg.net>,
> John 'Shaggy' Kolesar <spam@shagg.net> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 10:31:47 -0700, <dave@nowhere.com> wrote:
> > > It is my understanding that in the 1800's people used large crock
pot's
> > > to ferment their beer in. I have come across one of these and the
asking
> > > price is $100. I do not NEED this item but it does sound interesting.
> > > Any thoughts or potential problems?
> >
> > A bucket or carboy would be a lot cheaper. If you want a crock pot,
> > then go ahead and get it. I wouldn't buy it just for brewing though.
> >
> >
> > John.
>
> Heh, well I certainly didn't think it was a cheap way to ferment. I was
> thinking it would be "cool" but I also don't want to buy something that
> won't make be suitable for making beer.
>
> Dave




    
Date: 19 Jul 2006 11:30:02
From: Dave Smith
Subject: Re: fermenting in a large crock pot


In article <1Guvg.3521$us.844@trnddc04 >, "Todd" <Noname@NoSpam.invalid>
wrote:

> Most of the large crock pots are glazed. If the one you are looking at is
> glazed, the glaze is not lead based, and is in good condition, you should be
> able to clean and sanitize it, and it should be okay for fermenting.


How could I verify that the glaze is not lead based? The lady says it
has been in her family for at least 65 years but she is unsure of the
actual age.

Thanks for the info.

Dave