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Date: 25 Aug 2006 20:56:37
From: Dave Smith
Subject: faucet still sticking
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I posted once before about my faucet sticking but I tell you it is so bad. If I don't pour a drink in 24hrs it gets sticky, wait 48 hours and it's really stuck, longer than that and it takes a hammer to get the piston to move. I'm not kidding, I've had to do it. Take a look at my faucet and please make a suggestion about what I could do to improve this situation. Thanks, http://homepage.mac.com/davecalhoun/PhotoAlbum166.html Dave
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 21:38:23
From: Bob
Subject: Re: faucet still sticking
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"Dave Smith" <dave@nowhere.com > wrote in message news:dave-275607.20563725082006@nntp.charter.net... > I posted once before about my faucet sticking but I tell you it is so > bad. If I don't pour a drink in 24hrs it gets sticky, wait 48 hours and > it's really stuck, longer than that and it takes a hammer to get the > piston to move. I'm not kidding, I've had to do it. Take a look at my > faucet and please make a suggestion about what I could do to improve > this situation. Thanks, > > http://homepage.mac.com/davecalhoun/PhotoAlbum166.html > Have you tried a little keg lube on the moving parts? Bob
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 22:04:57
From: Dave Smith
Subject: Re: faucet still sticking
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In article <jpmdnWHpJaijTXLZnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@comcast.com >, "Bob" <bobnospam@gmail.com > wrote: > "Dave Smith" <dave@nowhere.com> wrote in message > news:dave-275607.20563725082006@nntp.charter.net... > > I posted once before about my faucet sticking but I tell you it is so > > bad. If I don't pour a drink in 24hrs it gets sticky, wait 48 hours and > > it's really stuck, longer than that and it takes a hammer to get the > > piston to move. I'm not kidding, I've had to do it. Take a look at my > > faucet and please make a suggestion about what I could do to improve > > this situation. Thanks, > > > > http://homepage.mac.com/davecalhoun/PhotoAlbum166.html > > > > Have you tried a little keg lube on the moving parts? > > Bob I use keg lube on all the moving parts. Dave
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 10:09:28
From: Dan Logcher
Subject: Re: faucet still sticking
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Dave Smith wrote: > In article <jpmdnWHpJaijTXLZnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@comcast.com>, > "Bob" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>"Dave Smith" <dave@nowhere.com> wrote in message >>news:dave-275607.20563725082006@nntp.charter.net... >> >>>I posted once before about my faucet sticking but I tell you it is so >>>bad. If I don't pour a drink in 24hrs it gets sticky, wait 48 hours and >>>it's really stuck, longer than that and it takes a hammer to get the >>>piston to move. I'm not kidding, I've had to do it. Take a look at my >>>faucet and please make a suggestion about what I could do to improve >>>this situation. Thanks, >>> >>>http://homepage.mac.com/davecalhoun/PhotoAlbum166.html >>> >> >>Have you tried a little keg lube on the moving parts? >> >>Bob > > > I use keg lube on all the moving parts. How often do you clean the faucet? I clean mine every change of the keg to ever other. If I'm tapping two kegs in the fridge, I clean them at every change, along with the lines. From the look of all the parts, they were not cleaned yet. -- Dan
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 02:19:52
From: Andy McKellar
Subject: Re: faucet still sticking
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Dave Smith wrote: > In article <jpmdnWHpJaijTXLZnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@comcast.com>, "Bob" > <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> "Dave Smith" <dave@nowhere.com> wrote in message >> news:dave-275607.20563725082006@nntp.charter.net... >> >>> I posted once before about my faucet sticking but I tell you it >>> is so bad. If I don't pour a drink in 24hrs it gets sticky, wait >>> 48 hours and it's really stuck, longer than that and it takes a >>> hammer to get the piston to move. I'm not kidding, I've had to do >>> it. Take a look at my faucet and please make a suggestion about >>> what I could do to improve this situation. Thanks, >>> >>> http://homepage.mac.com/davecalhoun/PhotoAlbum166.html >>> >> >> Have you tried a little keg lube on the moving parts? >> >> Bob > > > I use keg lube on all the moving parts. Dave I've had the same problem myself, and am happy to report there is a fix of sorts: A company named Perlick makes a different type of faucet that is not subject to this sort of sticking. As a test, I intentionally left my new Perlick faucet unused for about two weeks, and just tried it a moment ago. It opened just fine. Coincidence? Not really; reading this reminded me I hadn't tried it since starting the test, so I did. I am now going to replace all of my old-style faucets with Perlicks. Just so you know, the difference is in the faucet design, i.e., in the old style faucet, all of the moving parts are wetted by the beer but not protected from drying, so they "gunk up" (technical term) very quickly. In the Perlick faucet, none of the wetted parts are exposed to open air, so they don't dry. I don't know why keg lube isn't enough to fix this; I suspect that it soon gets rubbed off so that the bare metal surfaces are exposed to each other with only the dried beer residue in between, so they stick as if the lube weren't even there. -- -- Andy McKellar Dallas, TX
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 08:13:18
From: Steve Kranz
Subject: Re: faucet still sticking
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Andy McKellar wrote: > I've had the same problem myself, and am happy to report there is a fix > of sorts: A company named Perlick makes a different type of faucet that > is not subject to this sort of sticking. As a test, I intentionally > left my new Perlick faucet unused for about two weeks, and just tried it > a moment ago. It opened just fine. Coincidence? Not really; reading > this reminded me I hadn't tried it since starting the test, so I did. I > am now going to replace all of my old-style faucets with Perlicks. > > Just so you know, the difference is in the faucet design, i.e., in the > old style faucet, all of the moving parts are wetted by the beer but not > protected from drying, so they "gunk up" (technical term) very quickly. > In the Perlick faucet, none of the wetted parts are exposed to open air, > so they don't dry. Second that on the Perlicks. I bought mine (3) from www.northernbrewer.com but others sell 'em too. The old faucets would stick, but certainly not as quickly as described in the original post. It would seem to me that maybe higher gravity, sweeter beers would be prone to a quicker sticking beer faucet (QSBF) than a lighter bodied, drier beer. But that's all academic for me, at this point. The Perlick "forward seal" faucets are an outstanding improvement in design and function. -- Steve Kranz Homebrewer extraordinaire, banjo player mediocaire Visit the Midnight Homebrewers' League on the web at: http://users.adelphia.net/~smkranz
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 00:31:27
From: Dave Smith
Subject: Re: faucet still sticking
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In article <12evtgplp52pu09@corp.supernews.com >, Andy McKellar <mckellar@airmail.net > wrote: > Dave Smith wrote: > > In article <jpmdnWHpJaijTXLZnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@comcast.com>, "Bob" > > <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> "Dave Smith" <dave@nowhere.com> wrote in message > >> news:dave-275607.20563725082006@nntp.charter.net... > >> > >>> I posted once before about my faucet sticking but I tell you it > >>> is so bad. If I don't pour a drink in 24hrs it gets sticky, wait > >>> 48 hours and it's really stuck, longer than that and it takes a > >>> hammer to get the piston to move. I'm not kidding, I've had to do > >>> it. Take a look at my faucet and please make a suggestion about > >>> what I could do to improve this situation. Thanks, > >>> > >>> http://homepage.mac.com/davecalhoun/PhotoAlbum166.html > >>> > >> > >> Have you tried a little keg lube on the moving parts? > >> > >> Bob > > > > > > I use keg lube on all the moving parts. Dave > > I've had the same problem myself, and am happy to report there is a fix > of sorts: A company named Perlick makes a different type of faucet that > is not subject to this sort of sticking. As a test, I intentionally > left my new Perlick faucet unused for about two weeks, and just tried it > a moment ago. It opened just fine. Coincidence? Not really; reading > this reminded me I hadn't tried it since starting the test, so I did. I > am now going to replace all of my old-style faucets with Perlicks. > > Just so you know, the difference is in the faucet design, i.e., in the > old style faucet, all of the moving parts are wetted by the beer but not > protected from drying, so they "gunk up" (technical term) very quickly. > In the Perlick faucet, none of the wetted parts are exposed to open air, > so they don't dry. > > I don't know why keg lube isn't enough to fix this; I suspect that it > soon gets rubbed off so that the bare metal surfaces are exposed to each > other with only the dried beer residue in between, so they stick as if the > lube weren't even there. Where did you buy your Perlick faucets from? dave
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 04:18:59
From: Andy McKellar
Subject: Re: faucet still sticking
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Dave Smith wrote: > In article <12evtgplp52pu09@corp.supernews.com>, Andy McKellar > <mckellar@airmail.net> wrote: > > >> Dave Smith wrote: >> >>> In article <jpmdnWHpJaijTXLZnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@comcast.com>, "Bob" >>> <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> "Dave Smith" <dave@nowhere.com> wrote in message >>>> news:dave-275607.20563725082006@nntp.charter.net... >>>> >>>> >>>>> I posted once before about my faucet sticking but I tell you >>>>> it is so bad. If I don't pour a drink in 24hrs it gets >>>>> sticky, wait 48 hours and it's really stuck, longer than that >>>>> and it takes a hammer to get the piston to move. I'm not >>>>> kidding, I've had to do it. Take a look at my faucet and >>>>> please make a suggestion about what I could do to improve >>>>> this situation. Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> http://homepage.mac.com/davecalhoun/PhotoAlbum166.html >>>>> >>>> >>>> Have you tried a little keg lube on the moving parts? >>>> >>>> Bob >>> >>> >>> I use keg lube on all the moving parts. Dave >> >> I've had the same problem myself, and am happy to report there is a >> fix of sorts: A company named Perlick makes a different type of >> faucet that is not subject to this sort of sticking. As a test, I >> intentionally left my new Perlick faucet unused for about two >> weeks, and just tried it a moment ago. It opened just fine. >> Coincidence? Not really; reading this reminded me I hadn't tried >> it since starting the test, so I did. I am now going to replace >> all of my old-style faucets with Perlicks. >> >> Just so you know, the difference is in the faucet design, i.e., in >> the old style faucet, all of the moving parts are wetted by the >> beer but not protected from drying, so they "gunk up" (technical >> term) very quickly. In the Perlick faucet, none of the wetted parts >> are exposed to open air, so they don't dry. >> >> I don't know why keg lube isn't enough to fix this; I suspect that >> it soon gets rubbed off so that the bare metal surfaces are exposed >> to each other with only the dried beer residue in between, so they >> stick as if the lube weren't even there. > > > Where did you buy your Perlick faucets from? dave The LHBS where I work carries them as a special order item; I'd have to check with the boss about who his supplier is. -- -- Andy McKellar Dallas, TX
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 06:49:17
From: PaulK
Subject: Re: faucet still sticking
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Dave Smith wrote: > I posted once before about my faucet sticking but I tell you it is so > bad. If I don't pour a drink in 24hrs it gets sticky, wait 48 hours and > it's really stuck, longer than that and it takes a hammer to get the > piston to move. I'm not kidding, I've had to do it. Take a look at my > faucet and please make a suggestion about what I could do to improve > this situation. Thanks, > > http://homepage.mac.com/davecalhoun/PhotoAlbum166.html > > Dave First off, your faucet parts are dirty. You need to use a scrub brush and BLC on the parts every so often. Also, after you've finished serving beers from the faucet for the night, take a spray bottle of Star San solution and spray out the faucet to eliminate any residual beer that can dry up in there. You'll be stick free if you follow these steps.
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 21:26:11
From: Dave Smith
Subject: Re: faucet still sticking
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Thanks for all the responses! Dave
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Date: 28 Aug 2006 05:30:09
From:
Subject: Re: faucet still sticking
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Dave Smith wrote: > I posted once before about my faucet sticking but I tell you it is so > bad. If I don't pour a drink in 24hrs it gets sticky, wait 48 hours and > it's really stuck, longer than that and it takes a hammer to get the > piston to move. I'm not kidding, I've had to do it. Take a look at my > faucet and please make a suggestion about what I could do to improve > this situation. Thanks, > > http://homepage.mac.com/davecalhoun/PhotoAlbum166.html > > Dave Dude, if it were my problem I'd polish it down entirely with different grits of sand paper until the buildup had no place to hide. Then finally with some polishing compound. I wrap a dowel with the paper I want to use and chuck it into the drill. The piston and throat are the areas to pay attention to. If for some reason you have a small burr in there this should take care of it. Steve
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Date: 28 Aug 2006 18:03:29
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: faucet still sticking
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On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 20:56:37 -0700, <dave@nowhere.com > wrote: > I posted once before about my faucet sticking but I tell you it is so > bad. If I don't pour a drink in 24hrs it gets sticky, wait 48 hours and > it's really stuck, longer than that and it takes a hammer to get the > piston to move. I'm not kidding, I've had to do it. Take a look at my > faucet and please make a suggestion about what I could do to improve > this situation. Thanks, That's known to happen with these faucets. A couple ideas: 1) Drink more often ;) 2) Make sure that you take apart and clean the faucet every time you change the keg. It'll still gum up on you, but it gets much worse if you let the residue build up between kegs. 3) There is a different style of faucet (a bit more expensive, I think) that is designed so that this problem does not happen. Something about the plunger in the faucet sealing from the opposite side so that it doesn't sit in beer and become sticky. http://morebeer.com/product.html?product_id=16229 John.
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Date: 28 Aug 2006 21:11:05
From: Dan Logcher
Subject: Re: faucet still sticking
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John 'Shaggy' Kolesar wrote: > On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 20:56:37 -0700, <dave@nowhere.com> wrote: > >>I posted once before about my faucet sticking but I tell you it is so >>bad. If I don't pour a drink in 24hrs it gets sticky, wait 48 hours and >>it's really stuck, longer than that and it takes a hammer to get the >>piston to move. I'm not kidding, I've had to do it. Take a look at my >>faucet and please make a suggestion about what I could do to improve >>this situation. Thanks, > > > That's known to happen with these faucets. A couple ideas: > > 1) Drink more often ;) > 2) Make sure that you take apart and clean the faucet every time you change > the keg. It'll still gum up on you, but it gets much worse if you let > the residue build up between kegs. > 3) There is a different style of faucet (a bit more expensive, I think) that > is designed so that this problem does not happen. Something about the > plunger in the faucet sealing from the opposite side so that it doesn't > sit in beer and become sticky. > http://morebeer.com/product.html?product_id=16229 Forward sealing faucets. The seal is in the front so beer cannot dry out and gum up. A forth option is to LUBE LUBE LUBE. I put a small amount of keg lube on the piston and a bit on the seals and it helps keep the faucet from sticking during longer periods of time. I've been pricing out the forward sealing faucets, they run roughly $35. -- Dan
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Date: 29 Aug 2006 08:17:07
From: MDixon
Subject: Re: faucet still sticking
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Dan Logcher wrote: > I've been pricing out the forward sealing faucets, they run roughly $35. > They can be had for less... http://www.superprod.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=667211 Cheers, Mike
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Date: 29 Aug 2006 07:32:44
From: Wheat
Subject: Re: faucet still sticking
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I get the following error message when trying to access your link: "Product "667211" does not exist." Bill "MDixon" <me@privacy.net > wrote in message news:4liplvF2455kU1@individual.net... > Dan Logcher wrote: > > I've been pricing out the forward sealing faucets, they run roughly > $35. >> > > They can be had for less... > http://www.superprod.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=667211 > > Cheers, > Mike
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Date: 29 Aug 2006 10:50:53
From: MDixon
Subject: Re: faucet still sticking
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Wheat wrote: > I get the following error message when trying to access your link: "Product > "667211" does not exist." I was afraid of that. Go here: http://www.superprod.com In the "SEARCH BY" box, best sure "PART#" is selected and type 851300 as the number. Cheers, Mike
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Date: 29 Aug 2006 17:09:57
From: Scott Alfter
Subject: Re: faucet still sticking
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 In article <slrnef6c4i.r5r.spam@weizen.shagg.net >, John 'Shaggy' Kolesar <spam@shagg.net > wrote: >3) There is a different style of faucet (a bit more expensive, I think) that > is designed so that this problem does not happen. Something about the > plunger in the faucet sealing from the opposite side so that it doesn't > sit in beer and become sticky. > http://morebeer.com/product.html?product_id=16229 I have a couple of them (possibly a slightly older model from a year ago), and I've not had trouble with them sticking. It can take me a few months to empty a keg, and they keep pouring correctly up to the end. To clean and sanitize them after emptying a keg, I just circulate a gallon or so each of PBW (maybe OxiClean would work here too), water, and iodophor solution. _/_ / v \ Scott Alfter (remove the obvious to send mail) (IIGS( http://alfter.us/ Top-posting! \_^_/ rm -rf /bin/laden >What's the most annoying thing on Usenet? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFE9HY7VgTKos01OwkRAt+3AJ9I6jHcVpszMhIgvUS8SzE4Xh+A5QCg6SZ6 URCYjRsAWoOHSYtP/o/lrI8= =zAGA -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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