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Date: 25 Aug 2006 20:56:37
From: Dave Smith
Subject: faucet still sticking


I posted once before about my faucet sticking but I tell you it is so
bad. If I don't pour a drink in 24hrs it gets sticky, wait 48 hours and
it's really stuck, longer than that and it takes a hammer to get the
piston to move. I'm not kidding, I've had to do it. Take a look at my
faucet and please make a suggestion about what I could do to improve
this situation. Thanks,

http://homepage.mac.com/davecalhoun/PhotoAlbum166.html

Dave




 
Date: 25 Aug 2006 21:38:23
From: Bob
Subject: Re: faucet still sticking



"Dave Smith" <dave@nowhere.com > wrote in message
news:dave-275607.20563725082006@nntp.charter.net...
> I posted once before about my faucet sticking but I tell you it is so
> bad. If I don't pour a drink in 24hrs it gets sticky, wait 48 hours and
> it's really stuck, longer than that and it takes a hammer to get the
> piston to move. I'm not kidding, I've had to do it. Take a look at my
> faucet and please make a suggestion about what I could do to improve
> this situation. Thanks,
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/davecalhoun/PhotoAlbum166.html
>

Have you tried a little keg lube on the moving parts?

Bob




  
Date: 25 Aug 2006 22:04:57
From: Dave Smith
Subject: Re: faucet still sticking


In article <jpmdnWHpJaijTXLZnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@comcast.com >,
"Bob" <bobnospam@gmail.com > wrote:

> "Dave Smith" <dave@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:dave-275607.20563725082006@nntp.charter.net...
> > I posted once before about my faucet sticking but I tell you it is so
> > bad. If I don't pour a drink in 24hrs it gets sticky, wait 48 hours and
> > it's really stuck, longer than that and it takes a hammer to get the
> > piston to move. I'm not kidding, I've had to do it. Take a look at my
> > faucet and please make a suggestion about what I could do to improve
> > this situation. Thanks,
> >
> > http://homepage.mac.com/davecalhoun/PhotoAlbum166.html
> >
>
> Have you tried a little keg lube on the moving parts?
>
> Bob

I use keg lube on all the moving parts.
Dave


   
Date: 26 Aug 2006 10:09:28
From: Dan Logcher
Subject: Re: faucet still sticking


Dave Smith wrote:
> In article <jpmdnWHpJaijTXLZnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> "Bob" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>"Dave Smith" <dave@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>news:dave-275607.20563725082006@nntp.charter.net...
>>
>>>I posted once before about my faucet sticking but I tell you it is so
>>>bad. If I don't pour a drink in 24hrs it gets sticky, wait 48 hours and
>>>it's really stuck, longer than that and it takes a hammer to get the
>>>piston to move. I'm not kidding, I've had to do it. Take a look at my
>>>faucet and please make a suggestion about what I could do to improve
>>>this situation. Thanks,
>>>
>>>http://homepage.mac.com/davecalhoun/PhotoAlbum166.html
>>>
>>
>>Have you tried a little keg lube on the moving parts?
>>
>>Bob
>
>
> I use keg lube on all the moving parts.

How often do you clean the faucet? I clean mine every change of the keg
to ever other. If I'm tapping two kegs in the fridge, I clean them at
every change, along with the lines. From the look of all the parts, they
were not cleaned yet.

--
Dan


   
Date: 26 Aug 2006 02:19:52
From: Andy McKellar
Subject: Re: faucet still sticking


Dave Smith wrote:
> In article <jpmdnWHpJaijTXLZnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@comcast.com>, "Bob"
> <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> "Dave Smith" <dave@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:dave-275607.20563725082006@nntp.charter.net...
>>
>>> I posted once before about my faucet sticking but I tell you it
>>> is so bad. If I don't pour a drink in 24hrs it gets sticky, wait
>>> 48 hours and it's really stuck, longer than that and it takes a
>>> hammer to get the piston to move. I'm not kidding, I've had to do
>>> it. Take a look at my faucet and please make a suggestion about
>>> what I could do to improve this situation. Thanks,
>>>
>>> http://homepage.mac.com/davecalhoun/PhotoAlbum166.html
>>>
>>
>> Have you tried a little keg lube on the moving parts?
>>
>> Bob
>
>
> I use keg lube on all the moving parts. Dave

I've had the same problem myself, and am happy to report there is a fix
of sorts: A company named Perlick makes a different type of faucet that
is not subject to this sort of sticking. As a test, I intentionally
left my new Perlick faucet unused for about two weeks, and just tried it
a moment ago. It opened just fine. Coincidence? Not really; reading
this reminded me I hadn't tried it since starting the test, so I did. I
am now going to replace all of my old-style faucets with Perlicks.

Just so you know, the difference is in the faucet design, i.e., in the
old style faucet, all of the moving parts are wetted by the beer but not
protected from drying, so they "gunk up" (technical term) very quickly.
In the Perlick faucet, none of the wetted parts are exposed to open air,
so they don't dry.

I don't know why keg lube isn't enough to fix this; I suspect that it
soon gets rubbed off so that the bare metal surfaces are exposed to each
other with only the dried beer residue in between, so they stick as if the
lube weren't even there.

--
-- Andy McKellar
Dallas, TX


    
Date: 26 Aug 2006 08:13:18
From: Steve Kranz
Subject: Re: faucet still sticking


Andy McKellar wrote:

> I've had the same problem myself, and am happy to report there is a fix
> of sorts: A company named Perlick makes a different type of faucet that
> is not subject to this sort of sticking. As a test, I intentionally
> left my new Perlick faucet unused for about two weeks, and just tried it
> a moment ago. It opened just fine. Coincidence? Not really; reading
> this reminded me I hadn't tried it since starting the test, so I did. I
> am now going to replace all of my old-style faucets with Perlicks.
>
> Just so you know, the difference is in the faucet design, i.e., in the
> old style faucet, all of the moving parts are wetted by the beer but not
> protected from drying, so they "gunk up" (technical term) very quickly.
> In the Perlick faucet, none of the wetted parts are exposed to open air,
> so they don't dry.

Second that on the Perlicks. I bought mine (3) from
www.northernbrewer.com but others sell 'em too.

The old faucets would stick, but certainly not as quickly as described
in the original post. It would seem to me that maybe higher gravity,
sweeter beers would be prone to a quicker sticking beer faucet (QSBF)
than a lighter bodied, drier beer.

But that's all academic for me, at this point. The Perlick "forward
seal" faucets are an outstanding improvement in design and function.

--
Steve Kranz
Homebrewer extraordinaire, banjo player mediocaire
Visit the Midnight Homebrewers' League on the web at:
http://users.adelphia.net/~smkranz


    
Date: 26 Aug 2006 00:31:27
From: Dave Smith
Subject: Re: faucet still sticking


In article <12evtgplp52pu09@corp.supernews.com >,
Andy McKellar <mckellar@airmail.net > wrote:

> Dave Smith wrote:
> > In article <jpmdnWHpJaijTXLZnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@comcast.com>, "Bob"
> > <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> "Dave Smith" <dave@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> >> news:dave-275607.20563725082006@nntp.charter.net...
> >>
> >>> I posted once before about my faucet sticking but I tell you it
> >>> is so bad. If I don't pour a drink in 24hrs it gets sticky, wait
> >>> 48 hours and it's really stuck, longer than that and it takes a
> >>> hammer to get the piston to move. I'm not kidding, I've had to do
> >>> it. Take a look at my faucet and please make a suggestion about
> >>> what I could do to improve this situation. Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> http://homepage.mac.com/davecalhoun/PhotoAlbum166.html
> >>>
> >>
> >> Have you tried a little keg lube on the moving parts?
> >>
> >> Bob
> >
> >
> > I use keg lube on all the moving parts. Dave
>
> I've had the same problem myself, and am happy to report there is a fix
> of sorts: A company named Perlick makes a different type of faucet that
> is not subject to this sort of sticking. As a test, I intentionally
> left my new Perlick faucet unused for about two weeks, and just tried it
> a moment ago. It opened just fine. Coincidence? Not really; reading
> this reminded me I hadn't tried it since starting the test, so I did. I
> am now going to replace all of my old-style faucets with Perlicks.
>
> Just so you know, the difference is in the faucet design, i.e., in the
> old style faucet, all of the moving parts are wetted by the beer but not
> protected from drying, so they "gunk up" (technical term) very quickly.
> In the Perlick faucet, none of the wetted parts are exposed to open air,
> so they don't dry.
>
> I don't know why keg lube isn't enough to fix this; I suspect that it
> soon gets rubbed off so that the bare metal surfaces are exposed to each
> other with only the dried beer residue in between, so they stick as if the
> lube weren't even there.

Where did you buy your Perlick faucets from?
dave


     
Date: 26 Aug 2006 04:18:59
From: Andy McKellar
Subject: Re: faucet still sticking


Dave Smith wrote:
> In article <12evtgplp52pu09@corp.supernews.com>, Andy McKellar
> <mckellar@airmail.net> wrote:
>
>
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>> In article <jpmdnWHpJaijTXLZnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@comcast.com>, "Bob"
>>> <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Dave Smith" <dave@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:dave-275607.20563725082006@nntp.charter.net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I posted once before about my faucet sticking but I tell you
>>>>> it is so bad. If I don't pour a drink in 24hrs it gets
>>>>> sticky, wait 48 hours and it's really stuck, longer than that
>>>>> and it takes a hammer to get the piston to move. I'm not
>>>>> kidding, I've had to do it. Take a look at my faucet and
>>>>> please make a suggestion about what I could do to improve
>>>>> this situation. Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> http://homepage.mac.com/davecalhoun/PhotoAlbum166.html
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Have you tried a little keg lube on the moving parts?
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
>>> I use keg lube on all the moving parts. Dave
>>
>> I've had the same problem myself, and am happy to report there is a
>> fix of sorts: A company named Perlick makes a different type of
>> faucet that is not subject to this sort of sticking. As a test, I
>> intentionally left my new Perlick faucet unused for about two
>> weeks, and just tried it a moment ago. It opened just fine.
>> Coincidence? Not really; reading this reminded me I hadn't tried
>> it since starting the test, so I did. I am now going to replace
>> all of my old-style faucets with Perlicks.
>>
>> Just so you know, the difference is in the faucet design, i.e., in
>> the old style faucet, all of the moving parts are wetted by the
>> beer but not protected from drying, so they "gunk up" (technical
>> term) very quickly. In the Perlick faucet, none of the wetted parts
>> are exposed to open air, so they don't dry.
>>
>> I don't know why keg lube isn't enough to fix this; I suspect that
>> it soon gets rubbed off so that the bare metal surfaces are exposed
>> to each other with only the dried beer residue in between, so they
>> stick as if the lube weren't even there.
>
>
> Where did you buy your Perlick faucets from? dave

The LHBS where I work carries them as a special order item; I'd have to
check with the boss about who his supplier is.

--
-- Andy McKellar
Dallas, TX


 
Date: 26 Aug 2006 06:49:17
From: PaulK
Subject: Re: faucet still sticking



Dave Smith wrote:
> I posted once before about my faucet sticking but I tell you it is so
> bad. If I don't pour a drink in 24hrs it gets sticky, wait 48 hours and
> it's really stuck, longer than that and it takes a hammer to get the
> piston to move. I'm not kidding, I've had to do it. Take a look at my
> faucet and please make a suggestion about what I could do to improve
> this situation. Thanks,
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/davecalhoun/PhotoAlbum166.html
>
> Dave

First off, your faucet parts are dirty. You need to use a scrub brush
and BLC on the parts every so often. Also, after you've finished
serving beers from the faucet for the night, take a spray bottle of
Star San solution and spray out the faucet to eliminate any residual
beer that can dry up in there. You'll be stick free if you follow
these steps.



 
Date: 26 Aug 2006 21:26:11
From: Dave Smith
Subject: Re: faucet still sticking


Thanks for all the responses!

Dave


 
Date: 28 Aug 2006 05:30:09
From:
Subject: Re: faucet still sticking



Dave Smith wrote:
> I posted once before about my faucet sticking but I tell you it is so
> bad. If I don't pour a drink in 24hrs it gets sticky, wait 48 hours and
> it's really stuck, longer than that and it takes a hammer to get the
> piston to move. I'm not kidding, I've had to do it. Take a look at my
> faucet and please make a suggestion about what I could do to improve
> this situation. Thanks,
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/davecalhoun/PhotoAlbum166.html
>
> Dave

Dude, if it were my problem I'd polish it down entirely with
different grits of sand paper until the buildup had no place to hide.
Then finally with some polishing compound. I wrap a dowel with the
paper I want to use and chuck it into the drill. The piston and throat
are the areas to pay attention to. If for some reason you have a small
burr in there this should take care of it.

Steve



 
Date: 28 Aug 2006 18:03:29
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: faucet still sticking


On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 20:56:37 -0700, <dave@nowhere.com > wrote:
> I posted once before about my faucet sticking but I tell you it is so
> bad. If I don't pour a drink in 24hrs it gets sticky, wait 48 hours and
> it's really stuck, longer than that and it takes a hammer to get the
> piston to move. I'm not kidding, I've had to do it. Take a look at my
> faucet and please make a suggestion about what I could do to improve
> this situation. Thanks,

That's known to happen with these faucets. A couple ideas:

1) Drink more often ;)
2) Make sure that you take apart and clean the faucet every time you change
the keg. It'll still gum up on you, but it gets much worse if you let
the residue build up between kegs.
3) There is a different style of faucet (a bit more expensive, I think) that
is designed so that this problem does not happen. Something about the
plunger in the faucet sealing from the opposite side so that it doesn't
sit in beer and become sticky.
http://morebeer.com/product.html?product_id=16229


John.


  
Date: 28 Aug 2006 21:11:05
From: Dan Logcher
Subject: Re: faucet still sticking


John 'Shaggy' Kolesar wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 20:56:37 -0700, <dave@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>>I posted once before about my faucet sticking but I tell you it is so
>>bad. If I don't pour a drink in 24hrs it gets sticky, wait 48 hours and
>>it's really stuck, longer than that and it takes a hammer to get the
>>piston to move. I'm not kidding, I've had to do it. Take a look at my
>>faucet and please make a suggestion about what I could do to improve
>>this situation. Thanks,
>
>
> That's known to happen with these faucets. A couple ideas:
>
> 1) Drink more often ;)
> 2) Make sure that you take apart and clean the faucet every time you change
> the keg. It'll still gum up on you, but it gets much worse if you let
> the residue build up between kegs.
> 3) There is a different style of faucet (a bit more expensive, I think) that
> is designed so that this problem does not happen. Something about the
> plunger in the faucet sealing from the opposite side so that it doesn't
> sit in beer and become sticky.
> http://morebeer.com/product.html?product_id=16229

Forward sealing faucets. The seal is in the front so beer cannot dry out
and gum up. A forth option is to LUBE LUBE LUBE. I put a small amount of
keg lube on the piston and a bit on the seals and it helps keep the faucet
from sticking during longer periods of time.

I've been pricing out the forward sealing faucets, they run roughly $35.

--
Dan


   
Date: 29 Aug 2006 08:17:07
From: MDixon
Subject: Re: faucet still sticking


Dan Logcher wrote:
> I've been pricing out the forward sealing faucets, they run roughly $35.
>

They can be had for less...
http://www.superprod.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=667211

Cheers,
Mike


    
Date: 29 Aug 2006 07:32:44
From: Wheat
Subject: Re: faucet still sticking


I get the following error message when trying to access your link: "Product
"667211" does not exist."

Bill

"MDixon" <me@privacy.net > wrote in message
news:4liplvF2455kU1@individual.net...
> Dan Logcher wrote:
> > I've been pricing out the forward sealing faucets, they run roughly
> $35.
>>
>
> They can be had for less...
> http://www.superprod.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=667211
>
> Cheers,
> Mike




     
Date: 29 Aug 2006 10:50:53
From: MDixon
Subject: Re: faucet still sticking


Wheat wrote:
> I get the following error message when trying to access your link: "Product
> "667211" does not exist."

I was afraid of that. Go here:
http://www.superprod.com

In the "SEARCH BY" box, best sure "PART#" is selected and type
851300 as the number.

Cheers,
Mike


  
Date: 29 Aug 2006 17:09:57
From: Scott Alfter
Subject: Re: faucet still sticking


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John 'Shaggy' Kolesar <spam@shagg.net > wrote:
>3) There is a different style of faucet (a bit more expensive, I think) that
> is designed so that this problem does not happen. Something about the
> plunger in the faucet sealing from the opposite side so that it doesn't
> sit in beer and become sticky.
> http://morebeer.com/product.html?product_id=16229

I have a couple of them (possibly a slightly older model from a year ago),
and I've not had trouble with them sticking. It can take me a few months to
empty a keg, and they keep pouring correctly up to the end. To clean and
sanitize them after emptying a keg, I just circulate a gallon or so each of
PBW (maybe OxiClean would work here too), water, and iodophor solution.

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