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Date: 22 Jun 2006 10:51:58
From: Dave Smith
Subject: dual carbon filter?
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I'd like to buy a dual carbon filter, does anyone have a recommendation?
My water tastes terrible, very high clorine.
Thanks,
Dave
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Date: 22 Jun 2006 23:59:09
From: QD Steve
Subject: Re: dual carbon filter?
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"Dave Smith" <dave@nowhere.com > wrote in message
news:dave-E0988C.10515822062006@nntp.charter.net...
> I'd like to buy a dual carbon filter, does anyone have a recommendation?
> My water tastes terrible, very high clorine.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave
This is a typical unit that I use
http://blogadelaide.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/Reverse%20osmosis%20filtration.jpg
1. resin sediment to 1 micron
2. carbon BLOCK to 0.5 micron
3. reverse osmosis membrane
It has one inlet and three outlets
1. product water from membrane
2. waste water from the other side of membrane
3. filtered water only outlet which by-passes the membrane controlled by
ball valve
Steve W (in Aus)
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Date: 22 Jun 2006 14:41:55
From:
Subject: Re: dual carbon filter?
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Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> Greg LaPolla <glapolla@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Home depot for about 15 bucks you can get a canister charcoal filter.
> > and a hose fitting. Make sure you dont have cloramines because a
> > charcoal filter wont remove them.
> >
>
> Yes, charcoal filters will remove chloramines.
> John Palmer even mentions it in his book.
> http://www.howtobrew.com/section1/chapter4-1.html
>
> --
> Thomas T. Veldhouse
> Key Fingerprint: 2DB9 813F F510 82C2 E1AE 34D0 D69D 1EDC D5EC AED1
The filter that you'll want is a multi part purchase. You need
the canisters or sumps as they are sometimes called. These are
available with a bracket made right on it for easy mounting. Those
canisters have 3/8" NPT openings. There are also other canisters with
larger 3/4" openings available in their "whole house filter" section
located adjacent to the previous. I find the latter of the two best
for adapting to a garden hose. You can link the two canisters together
with the appropriate sized nipple The cartridges are available as a two
pack, look for their "best" one. One will be white with green caps on
each end the second one will be solid gray. With this system you'll
have the best water you can get prior to RO. I have an RO system yet I
find it strips everything out of the water leaving it yes clean as it
can be. But the down side is that it's also expensive to maintain. The
pre and post filter 36.00 bucks every 6 months then there is the
membrain, some folks will go as long as two years but however long you
go it's around 90 dollars and up.
Steve
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Date: 23 Jun 2006 07:16:41
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse
Subject: Re: dual carbon filter?
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smhoneydo@aol.com wrote:
> The filter that you'll want is a multi part purchase. You need
> the canisters or sumps as they are sometimes called. These are
> available with a bracket made right on it for easy mounting. Those
> canisters have 3/8" NPT openings. There are also other canisters with
> larger 3/4" openings available in their "whole house filter" section
> located adjacent to the previous. I find the latter of the two best
> for adapting to a garden hose. You can link the two canisters together
> with the appropriate sized nipple The cartridges are available as a two
> pack, look for their "best" one. One will be white with green caps on
> each end the second one will be solid gray. With this system you'll
> have the best water you can get prior to RO. I have an RO system yet I
> find it strips everything out of the water leaving it yes clean as it
> can be. But the down side is that it's also expensive to maintain. The
> pre and post filter 36.00 bucks every 6 months then there is the
> membrain, some folks will go as long as two years but however long you
> go it's around 90 dollars and up.
>
Whoa! You way over pay. I buy filters every 9 to 12 months and a membrane
every few years. I buy them from here:
http://www.purewater4u.com/store/replacement.shtml
I have a Culligan AC-30 system and it has worked wonderfully. My last order
from these folks was $35.65 after shipping. That is all I will need for at
least 9 months.
--
Thomas T. Veldhouse
Key Fingerprint: 2DB9 813F F510 82C2 E1AE 34D0 D69D 1EDC D5EC AED1
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Date: 22 Jun 2006 12:21:18
From: Greg LaPolla
Subject: Re: dual carbon filter?
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Dave Smith wrote:
> I'd like to buy a dual carbon filter, does anyone have a recommendation?
> My water tastes terrible, very high clorine.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave
Home depot for about 15 bucks you can get a canister charcoal filter.
and a hose fitting. Make sure you dont have cloramines because a
charcoal filter wont remove them.
You will find the canister in the water filter section at home depot.
I dont think you need a dual filter unless there is a lot of
particles/sediment in your water.
Greg
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Date: 22 Jun 2006 15:25:56
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse
Subject: Re: dual carbon filter?
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Greg LaPolla <glapolla@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> Home depot for about 15 bucks you can get a canister charcoal filter.
> and a hose fitting. Make sure you dont have cloramines because a
> charcoal filter wont remove them.
>
Yes, charcoal filters will remove chloramines.
John Palmer even mentions it in his book.
http://www.howtobrew.com/section1/chapter4-1.html
--
Thomas T. Veldhouse
Key Fingerprint: 2DB9 813F F510 82C2 E1AE 34D0 D69D 1EDC D5EC AED1
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Date: 22 Jun 2006 14:02:47
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse
Subject: Re: dual carbon filter?
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Dave Smith <dave@nowhere.com > wrote:
> I'd like to buy a dual carbon filter, does anyone have a recommendation?
> My water tastes terrible, very high clorine.
>
I would recommend you go all the way to RO. Make sure you use at least a
three stage system and a four stage is better. You want pre and post membrane
filters as well as a nice conditionnig inline filter.
Just one man's opinion.
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Thomas T. Veldhouse
Key Fingerprint: 2DB9 813F F510 82C2 E1AE 34D0 D69D 1EDC D5EC AED1
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Date: 23 Jun 2006 08:42:28
From:
Subject: Re: dual carbon filter?
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Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> smhoneydo@aol.com wrote:
> > Nice filter there Steve! It offers a few options yet
> > I thought most of those RO systems only allow one outlet so that the
> > water passes through the entire system. Im still of the belief that you
> > should have "some" of the minerals left behind in the water otherwise
> > you have to add them back in to adjust for the desired profile. Most of
> > us have "good" mineral content in out water with the only exception
> > being the chloramines.
> >
>
> I beg to disagree on one key point. Most have "good" mineral content in their
> water for only specific styles of beers. Most beer styles require different
> water profiles than other beer styles and thus, to make authentic
> representations of a given beer requires one to match the water profile as
> closely as possible. Granted, one CAN make a pilsner with a high carbonate
> water if they want too ... and one can make a pilsner with high sulfate water
> if they want to, but I don't generally recommend it.
>
Yes Thom I agree with you on this point as well. I make the
mistake sometimes of tossing out blanket statements. Your right,
Pilsners as well as several others require a more specific water
profile. I suppose I need to be more mindful of my audience.
Steve
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Date: 23 Jun 2006 08:30:49
From:
Subject: Re: dual carbon filter?
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Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> smhoneydo@aol.com wrote:
> > The filter that you'll want is a multi part purchase. You need
> > the canisters or sumps as they are sometimes called. These are
> > available with a bracket made right on it for easy mounting. Those
> > canisters have 3/8" NPT openings. There are also other canisters with
> > larger 3/4" openings available in their "whole house filter" section
> > located adjacent to the previous. I find the latter of the two best
> > for adapting to a garden hose. You can link the two canisters together
> > with the appropriate sized nipple The cartridges are available as a two
> > pack, look for their "best" one. One will be white with green caps on
> > each end the second one will be solid gray. With this system you'll
> > have the best water you can get prior to RO. I have an RO system yet I
> > find it strips everything out of the water leaving it yes clean as it
> > can be. But the down side is that it's also expensive to maintain. The
> > pre and post filter 36.00 bucks every 6 months then there is the
> > membrain, some folks will go as long as two years but however long you
> > go it's around 90 dollars and up.
> >
>
> Whoa! You way over pay. I buy filters every 9 to 12 months and a membrane
> every few years. I buy them from here:
>
> http://www.purewater4u.com/store/replacement.shtml
>
> I have a Culligan AC-30 system and it has worked wonderfully. My last order
> from these folks was $35.65 after shipping. That is all I will need for at
> least 9 months.
>
> --
> Thomas T. Veldhouse
> Key Fingerprint: 2DB9 813F F510 82C2 E1AE 34D0 D69D 1EDC D5EC AED1
Yes, I agree with you on that. I "potentialy" over pay but
fortunately for me I know the system. When I want to pay less I can
often scan over some of the items that are returned to the store which
have little to no defect and were possibly sold the previous day or
two. The clerk thats in charge of destroying those items in the field
so to speak may sometimes bend a rule and I'll end up paying little to
nothing for a practicly brand new item. With the comparitively small
volume that is used in the brewing process I can get at least a year
out of my filter cartridges that are rated for 3000 gallons.
Steve
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Date: 23 Jun 2006 10:39:14
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse
Subject: Re: dual carbon filter?
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smhoneydo@aol.com wrote:
>
> Yes, I agree with you on that. I "potentialy" over pay but
> fortunately for me I know the system. When I want to pay less I can
> often scan over some of the items that are returned to the store which
> have little to no defect and were possibly sold the previous day or
> two. The clerk thats in charge of destroying those items in the field
> so to speak may sometimes bend a rule and I'll end up paying little to
> nothing for a practicly brand new item. With the comparitively small
> volume that is used in the brewing process I can get at least a year
> out of my filter cartridges that are rated for 3000 gallons.
>
OK. But for the rest of the folks out there, watch where you buy. The link I
posted is a good one, and there are several others.
--
Thomas T. Veldhouse
Key Fingerprint: 2DB9 813F F510 82C2 E1AE 34D0 D69D 1EDC D5EC AED1
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Date: 23 Jun 2006 04:25:17
From:
Subject: Re: dual carbon filter?
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smhoneydo@aol.com wrote:
> QD Steve wrote:
> > "Dave Smith" <dave@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> > news:dave-E0988C.10515822062006@nntp.charter.net...
> > > I'd like to buy a dual carbon filter, does anyone have a recommendation?
> > > My water tastes terrible, very high clorine.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Dave
> >
> > This is a typical unit that I use
> > http://blogadelaide.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/Reverse%20osmosis%20filtration.jpg
> >
> > 1. resin sediment to 1 micron
> > 2. carbon BLOCK to 0.5 micron
> > 3. reverse osmosis membrane
> >
> > It has one inlet and three outlets
> > 1. product water from membrane
>
>
> > 2. waste water from the other side of membrane
> > 3. filtered water only outlet which by-passes the membrane controlled by
> > ball valve
> >
> > Steve W (in Aus)
>
> Nice filter there Steve! It offers a few options yet
> I thought most of those RO systems only allow one outlet so that the
> water passes through the entire system. Im still of the belief that you
> should have "some" of the minerals left behind in the water otherwise
> you have to add them back in to adjust for the desired profile. Most of
> us have "good" mineral content in out water with the only exception
> being the chloramines.
>
> Steve
http://www.southerndatastream.com/thm/
The above link should be able to answer any and all questions on the
subject of chloramines.
Steve
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Date: 23 Jun 2006 03:46:08
From:
Subject: Re: dual carbon filter?
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QD Steve wrote:
> "Dave Smith" <dave@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:dave-E0988C.10515822062006@nntp.charter.net...
> > I'd like to buy a dual carbon filter, does anyone have a recommendation?
> > My water tastes terrible, very high clorine.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Dave
>
> This is a typical unit that I use
> http://blogadelaide.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/Reverse%20osmosis%20filtration.jpg
>
> 1. resin sediment to 1 micron
> 2. carbon BLOCK to 0.5 micron
> 3. reverse osmosis membrane
>
> It has one inlet and three outlets
> 1. product water from membrane
> 2. waste water from the other side of membrane
> 3. filtered water only outlet which by-passes the membrane controlled by
> ball valve
>
> Steve W (in Aus)
Nice filter there Steve! It offers a few options yet
I thought most of those RO systems only allow one outlet so that the
water passes through the entire system. Im still of the belief that you
should have "some" of the minerals left behind in the water otherwise
you have to add them back in to adjust for the desired profile. Most of
us have "good" mineral content in out water with the only exception
being the chloramines.
Steve
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Date: 23 Jun 2006 07:23:56
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse
Subject: Re: dual carbon filter?
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smhoneydo@aol.com wrote:
> Nice filter there Steve! It offers a few options yet
> I thought most of those RO systems only allow one outlet so that the
> water passes through the entire system. Im still of the belief that you
> should have "some" of the minerals left behind in the water otherwise
> you have to add them back in to adjust for the desired profile. Most of
> us have "good" mineral content in out water with the only exception
> being the chloramines.
>
I beg to disagree on one key point. Most have "good" mineral content in their
water for only specific styles of beers. Most beer styles require different
water profiles than other beer styles and thus, to make authentic
representations of a given beer requires one to match the water profile as
closely as possible. Granted, one CAN make a pilsner with a high carbonate
water if they want too ... and one can make a pilsner with high sulfate water
if they want to, but I don't generally recommend it.
--
Thomas T. Veldhouse
Key Fingerprint: 2DB9 813F F510 82C2 E1AE 34D0 D69D 1EDC D5EC AED1
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