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Date: 30 May 2006 20:28:14
From: Gerard Eberlein
Subject: dry hopping


My IPA calls for 1 and 1/2 ounce of whole cascade hops when racking to the
secondary. Did just that but alot look dry and floating. Should I shake the
carboy or no to get them to at least absorb some. I know they float but I
want to get as much hop flavour as possible. Thanx in advance.

Gerard






 
Date: 31 May 2006 02:42:12
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: dry hopping


On Tue, 30 May 2006 20:28:14 -0400, <dormouse@charter.net > wrote:
> My IPA calls for 1 and 1/2 ounce of whole cascade hops when racking to the
> secondary. Did just that but alot look dry and floating. Should I shake the
> carboy or no to get them to at least absorb some. I know they float but I
> want to get as much hop flavour as possible. Thanx in advance.

Just leave them alone, they'll be fine.


John.


 
Date: 30 May 2006 21:00:18
From: Dan Logcher
Subject: Re: dry hopping


Gerard Eberlein wrote:
> My IPA calls for 1 and 1/2 ounce of whole cascade hops when racking to the
> secondary. Did just that but alot look dry and floating. Should I shake the
> carboy or no to get them to at least absorb some. I know they float but I
> want to get as much hop flavour as possible. Thanx in advance.

Yeah, my plugs float on top too.. some will sink, some will float.
If you want it all to sink, put them in a hop bag with some marbles.

--
Dan


  
Date: 30 May 2006 21:30:27
From: Gerard Eberlein
Subject: Re: dry hopping



how much will not using a sack with marbles effect the flavour?




   
Date: 31 May 2006 02:43:37
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: dry hopping


On Tue, 30 May 2006 21:30:27 -0400, <dormouse@charter.net > wrote:
>
> how much will not using a sack with marbles effect the flavour?

Well, first off dry hopping is for aroma, not flavor. I've never really
noticed that it makes any difference whether they float or sink. IMO,
trying to weigh them down to force them to sink is mostly just psychological,
they work just as well floating on top as sitting on the bottom.


John.


    
Date: 31 May 2006 04:41:19
From: QD Steve
Subject: Re: dry hopping



"John 'Shaggy' Kolesar" <spam@shagg.net > wrote in message
news:slrne7q0oj.pu2.spam@weizen.shagg.net...
> On Tue, 30 May 2006 21:30:27 -0400, <dormouse@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>> how much will not using a sack with marbles effect the flavour?
>
> Well, first off dry hopping is for aroma, not flavor. I've never really
> noticed that it makes any difference whether they float or sink. IMO,
> trying to weigh them down to force them to sink is mostly just
> psychological,
> they work just as well floating on top as sitting on the bottom.
>
>
> John.

I can't say that I would agree with you about not adding flavor. From
experience, I dry hopped an ale some time back and it made it pretty much
undrinkable - an unpleasant bitter and very grassy taste - overpowering in
fact. It did mellow somewhat but took nearly a year!
I've never dry hopped since but might give another go using less and not
leaving them in for as long as last time.
Steve W (in Aus)




     
Date: 31 May 2006 14:23:56
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: dry hopping


On Wed, 31 May 2006 04:41:19 GMT, <adlab@bigponddotnetdotau.trashthisbit > wrote:
> I can't say that I would agree with you about not adding flavor. From
> experience, I dry hopped an ale some time back and it made it pretty much
> undrinkable - an unpleasant bitter and very grassy taste - overpowering in
> fact. It did mellow somewhat but took nearly a year!
> I've never dry hopped since but might give another go using less and not
> leaving them in for as long as last time.

OK, that's true. ;)

Some types of hops are known for adding grassy tones when used to dry hop, but
it's more of an unintentional side effect. Generally, the goal of dry hopping
is about adding aroma. However, there is a lot of influence between aroma
and flavor. Sometimes one can cause the perception of the other.


John.


     
Date: 31 May 2006 14:11:48
From: Joel
Subject: Re: dry hopping


QD Steve <adlab@bigponddotnetdotau.trashthisbit > wrote:
>"John 'Shaggy' Kolesar" <spam@shagg.net> wrote:
>> On Tue, 30 May 2006 21:30:27 -0400, <dormouse@charter.net> wrote:
>>> how much will not using a sack with marbles effect the flavour?
>>
>> Well, first off dry hopping is for aroma, not flavor.
>
>I can't say that I would agree with you about not adding flavor. From
>experience, I dry hopped an ale some time back and it made it pretty much
>undrinkable - an unpleasant bitter and very grassy taste - overpowering in
>fact. It did mellow somewhat but took nearly a year!

I have found the same thing, though it seems to be
dependent on the variety of hop as much as anything else.
For instance, the OP's recipe that calls for 1.5 ounces
of Cascade for 2-3 weeks sounds way overboard to me, since
I"ve gotten that unpleasant grassy flavor using Cascades
on that sort of volume and schedule.

>I've never dry hopped since but might give another go using less and not
>leaving them in for as long as last time.

These days I start at 1/2 ounce per 5-gallon (US)
batch for 3-4 days. If that doesn't do the trick I
adjust the recipe the next time I make it. But it
usually is enough.
--
Joel Plutchak

"...illiterate Abyssinians did it for 5000 years, you can do it too."
- Guy Gregory on brewing beer


     
Date: 31 May 2006 10:07:09
From: Gerard Eberlein
Subject: Re: dry hopping



I'm planning on letting them sit for 2 to 3 weeks as per the recipe. The
people at the store said they've made this recipe many times and that it
comes out very close to the micro brew it clones.

Gerard




      
Date: 31 May 2006 14:18:56
From: Jason
Subject: Re: dry hopping


Gerard Eberlein wrote:
> I'm planning on letting them sit for 2 to 3 weeks as per the recipe. The
> people at the store said they've made this recipe many times and that it
> comes out very close to the micro brew it clones.
>
> Gerard
>
>


Going to share the recipe Gerand and stop keeping us in suspense? :)

Jason