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Date: 09 Aug 2006 16:50:59
From: Dave Smith
Subject: club growing pains
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Our local club meetings generally have 12-14 people in attendance. A
pretty good number for meeting in each others homes. As we grow I can
see how this will no longer be possible. I can think of two solutions:
1. Make dues mandatory and fairly high, say $50
or
2. Simply close the membership at a specific number
I'm not real excited about either option. Any advice from those who have
gone before me?
Dave
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Date: 10 Aug 2006 04:42:31
From: Adam Preble
Subject: Re: club growing pains
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Dave Smith wrote:
> 1. Make dues mandatory and fairly high, say $50
> or
I don't think you should do this because you might block out some of
your existing membership. That'll take away some experience and
cohesion you already have.
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Date: 09 Aug 2006 23:35:10
From: Wayne
Subject: Re: club growing pains
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Dave Smith wrote:
> Our local club meetings generally have 12-14 people in attendance. A
> pretty good number for meeting in each others homes. As we grow I can
> see how this will no longer be possible. I can think of two solutions:
> 1. Make dues mandatory and fairly high, say $50
> or
> 2. Simply close the membership at a specific number
>
> I'm not real excited about either option. Any advice from those who have
> gone before me?
>
> Dave
Our brew club has about 35-40 members. We generally have only 3
meetings a year in members homes (usually picnic/pot luck affairs
outdoors). The rest of the time the meeting site moves around. Various
local brewpubs/breweries invite us to meet there a couple times a year
for free. A large beer/liquor store has invited us to use their party
room a couple times a year. We even met a few times at a BBQ place.
Check around. It is not all that hard to find a place to meet once or
twice a year for free. You just need 6 or 7 of these plus schedule a
few outdoor gigs where you combine a picnic and a brew meeting.
If you try to arrange to meet at the same place every time, expect to
have to pay rent on the place.
Wayne
Bugeater Brewing Company
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Date: 09 Aug 2006 22:10:22
From: Jim
Subject: Re: club growing pains
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IfDave Smith wrote on 8/9/2006 7:50 PM:
> Our local club meetings generally have 12-14 people in attendance. A
> pretty good number for meeting in each others homes. As we grow I can
> see how this will no longer be possible. I can think of two solutions:
> 1. Make dues mandatory and fairly high, say $50
> or
> 2. Simply close the membership at a specific number
>
> I'm not real excited about either option. Any advice from those who have
> gone before me?
>
> Dave
Where I live, many neighborhoods have a clubhouse that you can use for
free or a small nominal fee.
Jim
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Date: 10 Aug 2006 01:02:52
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: club growing pains
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On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 16:50:59 -0700, <dave@nowhere.com > wrote:
> Our local club meetings generally have 12-14 people in attendance. A
> pretty good number for meeting in each others homes. As we grow I can
> see how this will no longer be possible. I can think of two solutions:
> 1. Make dues mandatory and fairly high, say $50
> or
> 2. Simply close the membership at a specific number
>
> I'm not real excited about either option. Any advice from those who have
> gone before me?
What about finding a larger place to meet?
John.
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Date: 10 Aug 2006 21:15:44
From: Dave Smith
Subject: Re: club growing pains
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I had looked into civic centers but I thought it would be a problem to
bring alcohol in, perhaps I'm wrong?
As for bars, I thought it would be the same problem, could we bring any
homebrew in? Or are you guys drinking the bars beer and just having
homebrew at special occasions?
Dave
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Date: 11 Aug 2006 13:30:37
From: Joel
Subject: Re: club growing pains
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Dave Smith <dave@nowhere.com > wrote:
>I had looked into civic centers but I thought it would be a problem to
>bring alcohol in, perhaps I'm wrong?
>
>As for bars, I thought it would be the same problem, could we bring any
>homebrew in? Or are you guys drinking the bars beer and just having
>homebrew at special occasions?
In my experience, one does have to work around those
issues like that. Some places (e.g., our Park District
facilities) flat out prohibit alcohol. Some bars don't
like alcohol served that they didn't sell. Some are OK
with homebrew as long as no commercial beer is brought in.
It does help if you have club meetings on slow nights
and generate a fair amount of revenue for them.
In general, you just have to scope things out.
--
Joel Plutchak "Sometimes I think we're alone in the universe, and
plutchak@[...] sometimes I think we're not. In either case the idea
is quite staggering." - Arthur C. Clarke
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Date: 11 Aug 2006 07:42:12
From: Mark R
Subject: Re: club growing pains
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"Dave Smith" <dave@nowhere.com > wrote in message
news:dave-BD5413.21154010082006@nntp.charter.net...
> I had looked into civic centers but I thought it would be a problem to
> bring alcohol in, perhaps I'm wrong?
>
> As for bars, I thought it would be the same problem, could we bring any
> homebrew in? Or are you guys drinking the bars beer and just having
> homebrew at special occasions?
If you can find a pub that brews their own I would talk to the manager. You
could suggest that each month you would hold a style "tasting comparison"
between one selected house brew and that made by the club members.
Mark R
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Date: 10 Aug 2006 07:38:40
From: Phil
Subject: Re: club growing pains
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On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 16:50:59 -0700, Dave Smith <dave@nowhere.com >
wrote:
>Our local club meetings generally have 12-14 people in attendance. A
>pretty good number for meeting in each others homes. As we grow I can
>see how this will no longer be possible. I can think of two solutions:
>1. Make dues mandatory and fairly high, say $50
>or
>2. Simply close the membership at a specific number
>
>I'm not real excited about either option. Any advice from those who have
>gone before me?
My club's been meeting in a bar for over fifteen years. A lot of
clubs do this.
Phil
======
visit the New York City Homebrewers Guild website:
http://www.hbd.org/nychg
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Date: 10 Aug 2006 09:57:57
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: club growing pains
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Dave Smith <dave@nowhere.com > wrote:
> Our local club meetings generally have 12-14 people in attendance. A
> pretty good number for meeting in each others homes. As we grow I can
> see how this will no longer be possible. I can think of two solutions:
> 1. Make dues mandatory and fairly high, say $50
> or
> 2. Simply close the membership at a specific number
>
> I'm not real excited about either option. Any advice from those
> who have gone before me?
Option 1 creates an entry barrier for new members and an exit
portal for current members. Option 2 is a bad idea for any group.
The value of your membership in any organization comes from its
activities and your involvement in those activities. Every club
of any nature needs active members. Your club appears to need a
member to plan meeting at pubs, breweries, LHBS's, and other
free venues.
A non-brewing related club to which I belong meets at book stores,
assisted-living facilities, restaurants, ballparks, and homeowner
association facilities as well as homes of members.
Dick
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Date: 10 Aug 2006 09:42:02
From: Jason
Subject: Re: club growing pains
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* Dave Smith <dave@nowhere.com >:
> Our local club meetings generally have 12-14 people in attendance. A
> pretty good number for meeting in each others homes. As we grow I can
> see how this will no longer be possible. I can think of two solutions:
> 1. Make dues mandatory and fairly high, say $50
> or
> 2. Simply close the membership at a specific number
>
> I'm not real excited about either option. Any advice from those who have
> gone before me?
>
> Dave
3. Move to a bigger venue.
Jason
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Date: 10 Aug 2006 18:07:18
From: Scott Alfter
Subject: Re: club growing pains
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Dave Smith <dave@nowhere.com > wrote:
>Our local club meetings generally have 12-14 people in attendance. A
>pretty good number for meeting in each others homes. As we grow I can
>see how this will no longer be possible. I can think of two solutions:
>1. Make dues mandatory and fairly high, say $50
>or
>2. Simply close the membership at a specific number
>
>I'm not real excited about either option. Any advice from those who have
>gone before me?
I'd think you could track down a local brewpub or beer bar that wouldn't
mind having a bunch of beer geeks over. For the past few months, SNAFU has
met at the Freakin' Frog (one of the largest beer selections anywhere), and
it's worked out well for us.
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Date: 11 Aug 2006 12:26:57
From: Larry Bristol
Subject: Re: club growing pains
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Dave Smith wrote:
> I'm not real excited about either option. Any advice from those who have
> gone before me?
A lot may depend on *where* you are. Do some research on the laws
pertaining to alcohol in your particular location. This may help you
understand what options might be available to you.
For example, in Texas (US), customers may bring their own alcohol (with
management's permission, of course) into an establishment that has a
license to sell only beer and wine; it is absolutely illegal to brink your
own alcohol into an establishment that sells liquor. Such rules make it
pointless to check with the owner of a full bar, for example, but the owner
of a beer/wine establishment might see it an opportunity to bring in new
business.
Be sure to check not only your national and state laws, but also those of
your county, city, and any other jurisdiction that might apply (such as
military, tribal, or the dreaded HOA)!
--
Larry Bristol --- The Double Luck
http://www.doubleluck.com
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