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Date: 09 Sep 2006 13:37:13
From: dutchbrew/chicago
Subject: all dead
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yup, the yeasties i pitched in my pale ale wort last night are all
dead. i confirmed with my homebrew shop this morning when i told them
i had no activity in my starter for 24 hrs and I had no activity in my
carboy 10 hrs after the starter was pitched. They said they had a bad
shipment and my tube must have been from it... makes my head spin to
think they are still selling the sh@# when they know its bad... Good
thing i made a starter cause i might still be sitting here watching the
carboy for some action... I will always make a starter from now on. So
i shot over to the hb shop early this morning to get my white labs
english ale first aid tube and pitched it in my beer. Too bad its too
late for a starter with this good yeast tube, im stuck. hopefully
this is the end of my problems. Think I'm also gonna shop online for
my stuff now.
-JAHBS
(just another home brewer story)
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Date: 09 Sep 2006 13:55:59
From: dutchbrew/chicago
Subject: Re: all dead
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yea there is another lhbs about 25 minutes away that seems to be good
but they dont have as much variety of equipment/ingredients as this
place. But your right im going to dump them.
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Date: 09 Sep 2006 15:48:03
From: The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty
Subject: Re: all dead
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dutchbrew/chicago wrote:
> yup, the yeasties i pitched in my pale ale wort last night are all
> dead. i confirmed with my homebrew shop this morning when i told them
> i had no activity in my starter for 24 hrs and I had no activity in my
> carboy 10 hrs after the starter was pitched. They said they had a bad
> shipment and my tube must have been from it... makes my head spin to
> think they are still selling the sh@# when they know its bad... Good
> thing i made a starter cause i might still be sitting here watching the
> carboy for some action... I will always make a starter from now on. So
> i shot over to the hb shop early this morning to get my white labs
> english ale first aid tube and pitched it in my beer. Too bad its too
> late for a starter with this good yeast tube, im stuck. hopefully
> this is the end of my problems. Think I'm also gonna shop online for
> my stuff now.
>
> -JAHBS
> (just another home brewer story)
>
I'd definitely dump this lhbs -- there are several good mail order
places in the midwest -- it also seems like you could find a decent
retail place in the Chicago area. Maybe not, though.
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Date: 10 Sep 2006 18:39:11
From: alebrewer
Subject: Re: all dead
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dutchbrew/chicago wrote:
> yup, the yeasties i pitched in my pale ale wort last night are all
> dead. i confirmed with my homebrew shop this morning when i told them
> i had no activity in my starter for 24 hrs and I had no activity in my
> carboy 10 hrs after the starter was pitched. They said they had a bad
> shipment and my tube must have been from it... makes my head spin to
> think they are still selling the sh@# when they know its bad... Good
> thing i made a starter cause i might still be sitting here watching the
> carboy for some action... I will always make a starter from now on. So
> i shot over to the hb shop early this morning to get my white labs
> english ale first aid tube and pitched it in my beer. Too bad its too
> late for a starter with this good yeast tube, im stuck. hopefully
> this is the end of my problems. Think I'm also gonna shop online for
> my stuff now.
>
> -JAHBS
> (just another home brewer story)
I am trying to figure out why you'd pitch a starter that showed no
activity.
ab
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Date: 11 Sep 2006 14:55:27
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: all dead
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On 10 Sep 2006 18:39:11 -0700, <alebrewer@wt.net > wrote:
> I am trying to figure out why you'd pitch a starter that showed no
> activity.
Starters don't always show obvious visual activity, especially if they
ferment out overnight and you never see them. IMO, with a starter what
you really look for is the slurry size once everything has settled. It
wouldn't surprise me, even with a good yeast, if you didn't see much
activity in a starter.
John.
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Date: 11 Sep 2006 10:03:57
From: JS
Subject: Re: all dead
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On 10 Sep 2006 18:39:11 -0700, "alebrewer" <alebrewer@wt.net > wrote:
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>dutchbrew/chicago wrote:
>> yup, the yeasties i pitched in my pale ale wort last night are all
>> dead. i confirmed with my homebrew shop this morning when i told them
>> i had no activity in my starter for 24 hrs and I had no activity in my
>> carboy 10 hrs after the starter was pitched. They said they had a bad
>> shipment and my tube must have been from it... makes my head spin to
>> think they are still selling the sh@# when they know its bad... Good
>> thing i made a starter cause i might still be sitting here watching the
>> carboy for some action... I will always make a starter from now on. So
>> i shot over to the hb shop early this morning to get my white labs
>> english ale first aid tube and pitched it in my beer. Too bad its too
>> late for a starter with this good yeast tube, im stuck. hopefully
>> this is the end of my problems. Think I'm also gonna shop online for
>> my stuff now.
>>
>> -JAHBS
>> (just another home brewer story)
>
>I am trying to figure out why you'd pitch a starter that showed no
>activity.
>
>ab
My thoughts exactly. An added benefit of making a starter is a chance
to observe the viability of the yeast.
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Date: 11 Sep 2006 14:53:17
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: all dead
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On 9 Sep 2006 13:37:13 -0700, <vroomski1@yahoo.com > wrote:
> yup, the yeasties i pitched in my pale ale wort last night are all
> dead. i confirmed with my homebrew shop this morning when i told them
> i had no activity in my starter for 24 hrs and I had no activity in my
> carboy 10 hrs after the starter was pitched. They said they had a bad
> shipment and my tube must have been from it... makes my head spin to
> think they are still selling the sh@# when they know its bad... Good
> thing i made a starter cause i might still be sitting here watching the
> carboy for some action... I will always make a starter from now on. So
> i shot over to the hb shop early this morning to get my white labs
> english ale first aid tube and pitched it in my beer. Too bad its too
> late for a starter with this good yeast tube, im stuck. hopefully
> this is the end of my problems. Think I'm also gonna shop online for
> my stuff now.
FWIW, I like to keep a couple extra packets of dry yeast around for just
this kind of thing. I call it my "emergency backup yeast". Dry packets
keep a long time in the fridge, and don't need starters before hand, so
they're great for grabbing when your other yeast doesn't start.
John.
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Date: 18 Sep 2006 19:13:03
From: dutchbrew/chicago
Subject: Re: all dead
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>
> What's the current gravity reading? Airlock bubbles and krausen don't
> necessarily mean anything.
We're at 1.028 after 8 days @ 70F ... so its prob the yeast health? no
off flavor from the sample besides yeast bite. Will this be ok
considering I did good sanitizing everything.
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Date: 19 Sep 2006 15:15:17
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: all dead
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On 18 Sep 2006 19:13:03 -0700, <vroomski1@yahoo.com > wrote:
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>>
>> What's the current gravity reading? Airlock bubbles and krausen don't
>> necessarily mean anything.
>
> We're at 1.028 after 8 days @ 70F ... so its prob the yeast health? no
> off flavor from the sample besides yeast bite. Will this be ok
> considering I did good sanitizing everything.
Yeah, it sounds like the yeast are either fermenting really slowly or else
have gotten stuck. In either case, I'd probably try either getting some
dry yeast or another tube of the same liquid yeast (make a starter if you're
going with the liquid yeast), and pitch that into the wort (don't aerate the
main batch). Obviously it's not an ideal situation, but I think you'll be
alright if your sanitation was OK. You've also at least got some fementation
activity (50% attenuation) which will help prevent bacteria problems. Maybe
not the best batch you'll ever make, but you should be able to get it to
finish and be drinkable.
If you'd rather be patient and wait it out, you can take another gravity
reading in a couple days and see if it's just working slowly or has really
gotten stuck. If it's working slowly, you can just let it go if you want
to and see how it does. Chances are you'll probably not get as good of an
attenuation out of it though. If it were me, I'd probably add some dry yeast.
John.
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Date: 18 Sep 2006 14:33:01
From: dutchbrew/chicago
Subject: Re: all dead
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following up with my original post...this pale ale is still fermenting
at 70*F after 8 days with a layer of krausen at the top and its been
bubbling about every 5 seconds for the last 4 days without slowing. I
have never expierianced a long ferment like this with something under
1.060... the og was 1.055. I'm thinking the second english ale vial i
pitched was in poor health since this is taking so long to ferment out.
What do you guys think? this beer has alot of hops... at 70 ibus
would the foam be from the hops and maybe its done attenuating? i
only say this because i know beer always foams with dry hopping.
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Date: 18 Sep 2006 23:54:03
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: all dead
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On 18 Sep 2006 14:33:01 -0700, <vroomski1@yahoo.com > wrote:
> following up with my original post...this pale ale is still fermenting
> at 70*F after 8 days with a layer of krausen at the top and its been
> bubbling about every 5 seconds for the last 4 days without slowing. I
> have never expierianced a long ferment like this with something under
> 1.060... the og was 1.055. I'm thinking the second english ale vial i
> pitched was in poor health since this is taking so long to ferment out.
> What do you guys think? this beer has alot of hops... at 70 ibus
> would the foam be from the hops and maybe its done attenuating? i
> only say this because i know beer always foams with dry hopping.
What's the current gravity reading? Airlock bubbles and krausen don't
necessarily mean anything.
John.
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Date: 19 Sep 2006 11:38:37
From: dutchbrew/chicago
Subject: Re: all dead
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Thanks, I will pitch in some dry yeast tonight. im not gonna sit there
and wait 2 weeks for a beer thats going to be nothing anyway.
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