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Date: 30 Nov 2006 11:36:53
From: jim
Subject: Where to get plastic fermentors
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Looking to buy a few plastic buckets. 6/6.5 gal. food grade
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 05:53:28
From: Wayne
Subject: Re: Where to get plastic fermentors
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On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 03:45:21 +0000, Mark R wrote:
> "Scott P" <scottphillips1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> My memory escapes me as to the type of plastic they are made from, but
>> it was identical to the 3 gallon used-donut-filling buckets I used to
>> get from my friendly neighborhood donut shop (DK's on State St. has the
>> best donuts in Boise - they make Krispy Kreme taste like dog food).
>
> I've never tasted dog food before but if it taste like a Krispy Kreme I owe
> my dog a very big apology. My first job after high school was a fryer for a
> family owned donut shop. We hand made 500-600 dozen on a week day and
> 900-1200 dozen on a weekend. I seem to recall something about a record
> weekend with 1400 plus dozen one Saturday night.
>
> Mark R
OMG! We've got a Krispy Kreme opening up near where I do some work!
I'd never heard of it before and wondered if it was a Japanese original
or an import! Now I know I'll give it a wide berth!
Wayne
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http://www.geocities.jp/rondonko/
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 02:48:54
From: Wayne
Subject: Re: Where to get plastic fermentors
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On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 02:40:57 +0000, Boll Weevil Brewery wrote:
> Here's another source that i've been wanting to give a try:
>
> http://www.yankeecontainers.com/Items/PCI52BWHHC.html
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> They are 6.5 gallon and a few cents cheaper. Dunno about the shipping
> rates though.
They've got 6.5 and 7 gallon steel pails too. Wonder if they're
any good for a fermenter? Drill a hole at the bottom for a spigot
and you're done!
Wayne
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 17:49:47
From:
Subject: Re: Where to get plastic fermentors
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hankus wrote:
> Those buckets are only good for a few days..this address (I am not
> affilated,etc) was posted a few days and looks like a major breakthrough..
> http://www.better-bottle.com/
I've had some of my larger belgian brews in standard HDPE buckets for
up to 4 weeks and they turned out just fine.
>
> --
> Thanks
> Hank
> .
Bryan
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 17:12:35
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Where to get plastic fermentors
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On 30 Nov 2006 17:49:47 -0800, <yournotauser@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> hankus wrote:
>> Those buckets are only good for a few days..this address (I am not
>> affilated,etc) was posted a few days and looks like a major breakthrough..
>> http://www.better-bottle.com/
>
> I've had some of my larger belgian brews in standard HDPE buckets for
> up to 4 weeks and they turned out just fine.
I assumed Hank was being sarcastic. Buckets only being good for a few
days is... well... just silly. There are also several words I'd use
to describe better-bottles. "major breakthrough" wouldn't be two of them
though. ;)
John.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 15:17:11
From: John Krehbiel
Subject: Re: Where to get plastic fermentors
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Scott P wrote:
> I purchase 5 gallon plastic buckets and lids for primary fermentation
> from Walmart (located in the hardware/paint section). They're super
> cheap - about $3 for the bucket and another buck for the lid. The one
> down-side is that the lid plastic is a bit brittle. You need to be
> careful when boring the hole for your airlock...I tried cutting a hole
> once with a razor knife and spit the lid; now I just use a forsener bit
> and drill carefully.
(snip)
> Cheers!
>
> Scott P.
> Brewing Primitive in Boise, Idaho
Another option is not to put a fermentation lock on a bucket at all. I
have a large bucket I sometimes use for primary fermentation, and the
lid doesn't seal well enough for the lock to bubble. I used to seal the
lip of the bucket with vasoline to get the thing to seal, but finally
decided it wasn't worth bothering with.
Long as the lid keeps things from falling in, it really won't matter
much if it is sealed.
As to where to get them, try:
http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=USPlastic&category%5Fname=20327&product%5Fid=9746
John
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 02:40:57
From: Boll Weevil Brewery
Subject: Re: Where to get plastic fermentors
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"John Krehbiel" <jkrehbielp@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1164928631.423101.233490@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Scott P wrote:
>> I purchase 5 gallon plastic buckets and lids for primary fermentation
>> from Walmart (located in the hardware/paint section). They're super
>> cheap - about $3 for the bucket and another buck for the lid. The one
>> down-side is that the lid plastic is a bit brittle. You need to be
>> careful when boring the hole for your airlock...I tried cutting a hole
>> once with a razor knife and spit the lid; now I just use a forsener bit
>> and drill carefully.
> (snip)
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Scott P.
>> Brewing Primitive in Boise, Idaho
>
> Another option is not to put a fermentation lock on a bucket at all. I
> have a large bucket I sometimes use for primary fermentation, and the
> lid doesn't seal well enough for the lock to bubble. I used to seal the
> lip of the bucket with vasoline to get the thing to seal, but finally
> decided it wasn't worth bothering with.
>
> Long as the lid keeps things from falling in, it really won't matter
> much if it is sealed.
>
> As to where to get them, try:
> http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=USPlastic&category%5Fname=20327&product%5Fid=9746
>
> John
>
Here's another source that i've been wanting to give a try:
http://www.yankeecontainers.com/Items/PCI52BWHHC.html
They are 6.5 gallon and a few cents cheaper. Dunno about the shipping rates
though.
----------------------------------------------
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http://www.brew100.com
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 15:12:07
From: alebrewer
Subject: Re: Where to get plastic fermentors
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jim wrote:
> Looking to buy a few plastic buckets. 6/6.5 gal. food grade
http://www.bayteccontainers.com/6galwhitepail.html
They are a bit more expensive than they were a few years ago; then they
had a cost break for 6 or more, so I got 6 of them for somewhere around
$35, delivered.
ab
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 19:18:57
From: hankus
Subject: Re: Where to get plastic fermentors
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...been reading threads on this n/g re: better bottle and noted the "food
grade" issue.My niece has a large plastic plant and makes lotsa fittings for
the food industry and tells me that "food grade"
only means that one has filed certain papers and produced certain results
and that many of the things she molds are not certified but are of the same
material as "food grade".She also mentioned that one can expect little
problems below 180 and above that pigments MAY but not WILL leach out in
small quantities clear is safest because of the absence of pigments-white is
a
pigment.
--
Thanks
Hank
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 18:40:22
From: jim
Subject: Re: Where to get plastic fermentors
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"hankus" <hbienert@cox.net > wrote in message
news:xqLbh.6992$1w6.878@newsfe16.lga...
> ...been reading threads on this n/g re: better bottle and noted the "food
> grade" issue.My niece has a large plastic plant and makes lotsa fittings
> for
> the food industry and tells me that "food grade"
> only means that one has filed certain papers and produced certain results
> and that many of the things she molds are not certified but are of the
> same
> material as "food grade".She also mentioned that one can expect little
> problems below 180 and above that pigments MAY but not WILL leach out in
> small quantities clear is safest because of the absence of pigments-white
> is a
> pigment.
>
>
> --
> Thanks
> Hank
>Thanks for the input I think I'm going to order 5 buckets from US plastic.
>Thanks
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 21:50:44
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Where to get plastic fermentors
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On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 11:36:53 -0800, <1234@aol.com > wrote:
> Looking to buy a few plastic buckets. 6/6.5 gal. food grade
Just about any homebrew store should carry them, they're pretty
much standard equipment. Do you have a homebrew store near you, or
are you looking for one online?
John.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 17:00:33
From: hankus
Subject: Re: Where to get plastic fermentors
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I missed the thread about better bottle being no better than donut mix
buckets...BTW,I got 3 plastic buckets at Sam's bakery section
(great,inexpensive cakes) just for asking a nd coming back 2 days later
--
Thanks
Hank
"John 'Shaggy' Kolesar" <spam@shagg.net > wrote in message
news:slrnemukrn.du4.spam@weizen.shagg.net...
> On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 11:36:53 -0800, <1234@aol.com> wrote:
>> Looking to buy a few plastic buckets. 6/6.5 gal. food grade
>
> Just about any homebrew store should carry them, they're pretty
> much standard equipment. Do you have a homebrew store near you, or
> are you looking for one online?
>
>
> John.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 13:36:22
From: Scott P
Subject: Re: Where to get plastic fermentors
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I purchase 5 gallon plastic buckets and lids for primary fermentation
from Walmart (located in the hardware/paint section). They're super
cheap - about $3 for the bucket and another buck for the lid. The one
down-side is that the lid plastic is a bit brittle. You need to be
careful when boring the hole for your airlock...I tried cutting a hole
once with a razor knife and spit the lid; now I just use a forsener bit
and drill carefully. The up-side about these buckets is that if they
get scratched on the inside, they can be painlessly tossed or put to
other uses because they are so cheap. Buying new buckets and new
plastic hose is much cheaper than losing 5 or 10 gallons of beer to an
infection.
My memory escapes me as to the type of plastic they are made from, but
it was identical to the 3 gallon used-donut-filling buckets I used to
get from my friendly neighborhood donut shop (DK's on State St. has the
best donuts in Boise - they make Krispy Kreme taste like dog food).
As a brewing community, I suspect that we spend too much time fretting
over things like oxygen permeability of buckets, and worrying about
many other items of minutia that fail to have significantly negative
impacts of our beers. My guess is that more beers are ruined over poor
sanitation than everything else combined. Obviously, the introduction
of oxygen at the wrong time can contribute to staleness (among other
things), but I've personally never been able to keep homebrew around
long enough for it to go stale. To put it in simple terms, for
thousands of years man made beer with the most rudimentary of tools and
knowledge, but the beer must have turned out ok, because man kept
brewing and kept drinking.
On the other hand, if I had the bucks to go out and purchase a
state-of-the-art all-stainless gas-fired RIMS-enabled pilot brewery,
I'd probably claim that a Neanderthal just can't brew a decent beer
with a turkey fryer, an old converted keg, and a cooler!
Cheers!
Scott P.
Brewing Primitive in Boise, Idaho
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 03:45:21
From: Mark R
Subject: Re: Where to get plastic fermentors
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"Scott P" <scottphillips1@hotmail.com > wrote in message
>
> My memory escapes me as to the type of plastic they are made from, but
> it was identical to the 3 gallon used-donut-filling buckets I used to
> get from my friendly neighborhood donut shop (DK's on State St. has the
> best donuts in Boise - they make Krispy Kreme taste like dog food).
I've never tasted dog food before but if it taste like a Krispy Kreme I owe
my dog a very big apology. My first job after high school was a fryer for a
family owned donut shop. We hand made 500-600 dozen on a week day and
900-1200 dozen on a weekend. I seem to recall something about a record
weekend with 1400 plus dozen one Saturday night.
Mark R
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 19:46:42
From: jason
Subject: Re: Where to get plastic fermentors
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jim wrote:
> Looking to buy a few plastic buckets. 6/6.5 gal. food grade
>
>
Your LHBS surely must have some.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 14:19:33
From: hankus
Subject: Re: Where to get plastic fermentors
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Those buckets are only good for a few days..this address (I am not
affilated,etc) was posted a few days and looks like a major breakthrough..
http://www.better-bottle.com/
--
Thanks
Hank
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 21:51:42
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Where to get plastic fermentors
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On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 14:19:33 -0600, <hbienert@cox.net > wrote:
> Those buckets are only good for a few days..this address (I am not
> affilated,etc) was posted a few days and looks like a major breakthrough..
> http://www.better-bottle.com/
Yes, definitely a major breakthrough in revenue generation for the company.
John.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 16:15:57
From: Ed Edelenbos
Subject: Re: Where to get plastic fermentors
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"hankus" <hbienert@cox.net > wrote in message
news:t1Hbh.1115$Ka4.801@newsfe14.lga...
> Those buckets are only good for a few days..this address (I am not
> affilated,etc) was posted a few days and looks like a major breakthrough..
> http://www.better-bottle.com/
>
> --
> Thanks
> Hank
> .
Hmmmm...... I think those buckets are fine for at least a couple weeks.
At least empirical data would suggest so. Someone the other day (here on
the NG) pointed to a study which indicated the buckets were less oxygen
permeable than the "better-bottle".
Ed
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 09:03:06
From: Scott P
Subject: Re: Where to get plastic fermentors
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John wrote: "Many people really love Krispy Kreme. I don't. To me
they're glazed air. Of course, many people also claim to love
Budmillercoors."
I think that you're on to something! I wonder what the correlation
looks like between those who only drink megaswill and love Krispy Kreme
donuts when compared to those who love all styles of beer and love
bready and substantial donuts?
For me personally, I like my beer like I like my donuts: lots of
variety with substantial mouthfeel.
Cheers!
Scott P.
Brewing in Boise
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 04:14:46
From: John Krehbiel
Subject: Re: Where to get plastic fermentors
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Wayne wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 03:45:21 +0000, Mark R wrote:
>
> > "Scott P" <scottphillips1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>
> >> My memory escapes me as to the type of plastic they are made from, but
> >> it was identical to the 3 gallon used-donut-filling buckets I used to
> >> get from my friendly neighborhood donut shop (DK's on State St. has the
> >> best donuts in Boise - they make Krispy Kreme taste like dog food).
> >
> > I've never tasted dog food before but if it taste like a Krispy Kreme I owe
> > my dog a very big apology. My first job after high school was a fryer for a
> > family owned donut shop. We hand made 500-600 dozen on a week day and
> > 900-1200 dozen on a weekend. I seem to recall something about a record
> > weekend with 1400 plus dozen one Saturday night.
> >
> > Mark R
>
> OMG! We've got a Krispy Kreme opening up near where I do some work!
> I'd never heard of it before and wondered if it was a Japanese original
> or an import! Now I know I'll give it a wide berth!
>
> Wayne
>
> --
> Registered Linux user #375994
> http://www.geocities.jp/rondonko/
Many people really love Krispy Kreme. I don't. To me they're glazed
air.
Of course, many people also claim to love Budmillercoors. Oh well.
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 16:32:11
From: Mark R
Subject: Re: Where to get plastic fermentors
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"John Krehbiel" <jkrehbielp@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1164975286.420638.18960@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Wayne wrote:
>> On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 03:45:21 +0000, Mark R wrote:
>>
>> > "Scott P" <scottphillips1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>
>> >> My memory escapes me as to the type of plastic they are made from, but
>> >> it was identical to the 3 gallon used-donut-filling buckets I used to
>> >> get from my friendly neighborhood donut shop (DK's on State St. has
>> >> the
>> >> best donuts in Boise - they make Krispy Kreme taste like dog food).
>> >
>> > I've never tasted dog food before but if it taste like a Krispy Kreme I
>> > owe
>> > my dog a very big apology. My first job after high school was a fryer
>> > for a
>> > family owned donut shop. We hand made 500-600 dozen on a week day and
>> > 900-1200 dozen on a weekend. I seem to recall something about a record
>> > weekend with 1400 plus dozen one Saturday night.
>> >
>> > Mark R
>>
>> OMG! We've got a Krispy Kreme opening up near where I do some work!
>> I'd never heard of it before and wondered if it was a Japanese original
>> or an import! Now I know I'll give it a wide berth!
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>> --
>> Registered Linux user #375994
>> http://www.geocities.jp/rondonko/
>
> Many people really love Krispy Kreme. I don't. To me they're glazed
> air.
That's almost the exact same description the I would give them except that I
would add "greasy tasting glazed air"
Mark R
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 14:27:32
From: John Krehbiel
Subject: Re: Where to get plastic fermentors
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Scott P wrote:
> John wrote: "Many people really love Krispy Kreme. I don't. To me
> they're glazed air. Of course, many people also claim to love
> Budmillercoors."
>
>
> I think that you're on to something! I wonder what the correlation
> looks like between those who only drink megaswill and love Krispy Kreme
> donuts when compared to those who love all styles of beer and love
> bready and substantial donuts?
>
> For me personally, I like my beer like I like my donuts: lots of
> variety with substantial mouthfeel.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Scott P.
> Brewing in Boise
I believe there must be a correlation between people who like food and
drink (and friends for that matter) with character.
Sadly, whatever I like is also the first to be discontinued. That's why
I brew my own.
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 17:35:03
From: Ed Edelenbos
Subject: Re: Where to get plastic fermentors
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"John Krehbiel" <jkrehbielp@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1165012052.815103.143460@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> I believe there must be a correlation between people who like food and
> drink (and friends for that matter) with character.
>
How about people like me... I like characters with food and drink. (grin)
Ed
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Date: 15 Dec 2006 04:56:01
From: Wayne
Subject: Re: Where to get plastic fermentors
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On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:48:42 +1000, Ian Cowan wrote:
> I'm told that the home brew shops can get 60 litre or approx 5 gal "food
> grade" plastic containers for about $6.
I think your conversion is a bit off:
19 litres is approx 5 US gallons
23 litres is approx 5 Imperial gallons
60 litres is a lot of beer :-)
Wayne
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Date: 15 Dec 2006 14:48:42
From: Ian Cowan
Subject: Re: Where to get plastic fermentors
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In Oz ( australia ), things are a lttle different.
I'm told that the home brew shops can get 60 litre or
approx 5 gal "food grade" plastic containers for about $6.
The shops can then drill a hole for a tap & a fermenter lock hole in
the lit & sell them for about $50.
If anyone can find a cheaper source than that, I'd certainly be
interested.
Ian C
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 11:36:53 -0800, "jim" <1234@aol.com > wrote:
>Looking to buy a few plastic buckets. 6/6.5 gal. food grade
>
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Date: 16 Dec 2006 23:28:47
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: Where to get plastic fermentors
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Ian Cowan <iancowan@optusnet.com.au > wrote:
> "jim" <1234@aol.com> wrote:
>> Looking to buy a few plastic buckets. 6/6.5 gal. food grade
If you are in the States, you can buy them from your nearest
LHBS or by mail order. My LHBS (Maryland Homebrew [www.mdhb.com]
with whom I am very happy) sells 7.9 gallon fermenters for $13.95.
7.9 gallons is 29.9 litres.
> In Oz (australia), things are a lttle different.
OZ is always different cause it's upside down! :)
> I'm told that the home brew shops can get 60 litre or
> approx 5 gal "food grade" plastic containers for about $6.
60 litres is 15.85 gallons about the size a half barrel keg.
> The shops can then drill a hole for a tap & a fermenter lock
> hole in the lit & sell them for about $50.
You can put a tap on a bottling bucket. But do not put a tap
on a fermenter. I did this. It was a dumb move. It just
makes more work when cleaning.
> If anyone can find a cheaper source than that, I'd certainly
> be interested.
Somewhere there must be a site listing Home Brew Stores in OZ.
Find it and go shopping.
Dick
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