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Date: 31 May 2006 09:38:44
From: Dick Adams
Subject: When to boil during an extract brew?
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This is a cut-n-paste from "Beer the Partial-Mash Way" by Mark Henry
from BYO (ober 2002).
"You will note that I do not call for boiling the malt extracts.
One of the more recent trends in extract brewing is to not boil
malt extracts that were boiled prior to being concentrated. This
essentially eliminates the need to boil at home."
I know that Coopers has a line of "No-Boil" kits and, according to
the article, the author is the co-owner of Cascadia Importers, the
North American importers of Coopers brewery products. So I ask if
the above quote applies to all LME and DME or just Coopers?
Dick
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Date: 31 May 2006 14:35:56
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: When to boil during an extract brew?
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On Wed, 31 May 2006 09:38:44 -0000, <rdadams@smart.net > wrote:
> This is a cut-n-paste from "Beer the Partial-Mash Way" by Mark Henry
> from BYO (ober 2002).
>
> "You will note that I do not call for boiling the malt extracts.
> One of the more recent trends in extract brewing is to not boil
> malt extracts that were boiled prior to being concentrated. This
> essentially eliminates the need to boil at home."
>
> I know that Coopers has a line of "No-Boil" kits and, according to
> the article, the author is the co-owner of Cascadia Importers, the
> North American importers of Coopers brewery products. So I ask if
> the above quote applies to all LME and DME or just Coopers?
If you don't want to add any of your own hops and just make the same boring
kit everytime, then you don't need to boil. If, however, you like to
customize your beers so that they fit your preferences then you'll need to
boil. Personally, I would always do a boil when brewing, even with a so
called "no boil" kit.
John.
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Date: 31 May 2006 05:26:39
From:
Subject: Re: When to boil during an extract brew?
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Washu wrote:
> Dick Adams wrote:
> > This is a cut-n-paste from "Beer the Partial-Mash Way" by Mark Henry
> > from BYO (ober 2002).
> >
> > "You will note that I do not call for boiling the malt extracts.
> > One of the more recent trends in extract brewing is to not boil
> > malt extracts that were boiled prior to being concentrated. This
> > essentially eliminates the need to boil at home."
> >
> > I know that Coopers has a line of "No-Boil" kits and, according to
> > the article, the author is the co-owner of Cascadia Importers, the
> > North American importers of Coopers brewery products. So I ask if
> > the above quote applies to all LME and DME or just Coopers?
> >
> > Dick
>
> Seems that you would get really poor hop utilization this way.
> Guess you could use hopped extract.
You could boil the hops before the extract is added.
b.
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Date: 31 May 2006 15:50:29
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: When to boil during an extract brew?
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<mcbragg66@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Washu wrote:
>> Dick Adams wrote:
>>> This is a cut-n-paste from "Beer the Partial-Mash Way" by Mark Henry
>>> from BYO (ober 2002).
>>>
>>> "You will note that I do not call for boiling the malt extracts.
>>> One of the more recent trends in extract brewing is to not boil
>>> malt extracts that were boiled prior to being concentrated. This
>>> essentially eliminates the need to boil at home."
>>>
>>> I know that Coopers has a line of "No-Boil" kits and, according to
>>> the article, the author is the co-owner of Cascadia Importers, the
>>> North American importers of Coopers brewery products. So I ask if
>>> the above quote applies to all LME and DME or just Coopers?
>> Seems that you would get really poor hop utilization this way.
>> Guess you could use hopped extract.
> You could boil the hops before the extract is added.
Soory I didn't include the URL for the article. It is at
http://www.byo.com/feature/986.html
The recipe calls for mashing
2.0 lbs. Dingeman's Munich malt
0.5 lbs. Dingeman's Aromatic malt
with 3+ qts. of water
After a batch sparge, 1.5 gallons of wort is expected. Another
gallon of water is added and the wort gets a 30 min boil with
hops added for 30, 15, and 2 minutes. The LME and the DME are
mixed in while the wort is above 160F (71.2C).
My question remains "Does the statement 'One of the more recent
trends in extract brewing is to not boil malt extracts that were
boiled prior to being concentrated' apply to all malt extracts
or just to Coopers?"
Dick
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Date: 31 May 2006 15:55:42
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: When to boil during an extract brew?
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On Wed, 31 May 2006 15:50:29 -0000, <rdadams@smart.net > wrote:
> My question remains "Does the statement 'One of the more recent
> trends in extract brewing is to not boil malt extracts that were
> boiled prior to being concentrated' apply to all malt extracts
> or just to Coopers?"
None of the above.
More fundamentally, I think the statement is made by someone who is
trying to push Coopers kits (IE a distributor of their products). IMO,
it's marketing/salesmanship.
John.
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Date: 31 May 2006 14:36:57
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: When to boil during an extract brew?
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On 31 May 2006 05:26:39 -0700, <mcbragg66@yahoo.com > wrote:
>> Seems that you would get really poor hop utilization this way.
>> Guess you could use hopped extract.
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> You could boil the hops before the extract is added.
Boiling hops in plain water is not a good idea. You'll extract tannins
from the hops and end up with harsh flavors.
John.
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Date: 31 May 2006 05:12:19
From: Washu
Subject: Re: When to boil during an extract brew?
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Dick Adams wrote:
> This is a cut-n-paste from "Beer the Partial-Mash Way" by Mark Henry
> from BYO (ober 2002).
>
> "You will note that I do not call for boiling the malt extracts.
> One of the more recent trends in extract brewing is to not boil
> malt extracts that were boiled prior to being concentrated. This
> essentially eliminates the need to boil at home."
>
> I know that Coopers has a line of "No-Boil" kits and, according to
> the article, the author is the co-owner of Cascadia Importers, the
> North American importers of Coopers brewery products. So I ask if
> the above quote applies to all LME and DME or just Coopers?
>
> Dick
Seems that you would get really poor hop utilization this way.
Guess you could use hopped extract.
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Date: 31 May 2006 19:06:30
From: Scott Alfter
Subject: Re: When to boil during an extract brew?
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Washu <rgrantha@yahoo.com > wrote:
>Dick Adams wrote:
>> I know that Coopers has a line of "No-Boil" kits and, according to
>> the article, the author is the co-owner of Cascadia Importers, the
>> North American importers of Coopers brewery products. So I ask if
>> the above quote applies to all LME and DME or just Coopers?
>
>Seems that you would get really poor hop utilization this way.
>Guess you could use hopped extract.
The Coopers no-boil kits typically include a can of hopped extract and a bag
containing a dry mix of dextrose and maltodextrin. You're probably not
going to win medals with them, but they make decent beer if you follow the
directions and practice good sanitation.
They're the quickest way to make beer...the batch I made was in the
fermenter in somewhere around 30-45 minutes (most of which was warming up
the can of extract and waiting for my filter to produce the needed amount of
water), fermented out in three or four days, crash-cooled in one day, and
force-carbonated in one day. That's less than a week from start to finish,
and it's poured nice and clear pretty much since the beginning.
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Date: 31 May 2006 17:35:39
From: Todd
Subject: Re: When to boil during an extract brew?
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"Dick Adams" <rdadams@smart.net > wrote in message
news:127qp14m66rap1a@corp.supernews.com...
> This is a cut-n-paste from "Beer the Partial-Mash Way" by Mark Henry
> from BYO (ober 2002).
>
> "You will note that I do not call for boiling the malt extracts.
> One of the more recent trends in extract brewing is to not boil
> malt extracts that were boiled prior to being concentrated. This
> essentially eliminates the need to boil at home."
>
> I know that Coopers has a line of "No-Boil" kits and, according to
> the article, the author is the co-owner of Cascadia Importers, the
> North American importers of Coopers brewery products. So I ask if
> the above quote applies to all LME and DME or just Coopers?
>
> Dick
This applies to kits with pre-hopped malt extract. If the malt extract is
not pre-hopped you will still have to boil for an hour to get hop bittering.
Kits that have pre-hopped malt extract also have a lot of unfermentables so
that when you mix them with 2 or 2.2 pounds of sugar, they will still have
some body.
Todd
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