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Date: 21 Jun 2006 05:11:38
From: johnboy
Subject: What type/brand of water filter for city water?


Hi all,

I recently moved and now have city water (chlorinated ) water. I have
used well water for the past 6 years and it worked just fine.

Anyway, what type of filter does everyone use here (type and brand) to
effectively filter out chlorine and chloramines? What should I expect
in terms of filter cost?

Can Campden tablets be used? And if so, are they effective?

Thanks in advance all!
John





 
Date: 21 Jun 2006 16:03:36
From: Bart Goddard
Subject: Re: What type/brand of water filter for city water?


johnj7777@yahoo.com wrote:



> Anyway, what type of filter does everyone use here (type and brand) to
> effectively filter out chlorine and chloramines?

Not an answer to your direct question, but I've been using the
Glacier water stations in front of the grocery stores. It's
a slight pain to load up 3 carboys in the backseat, drive over
to the store and lug them back, but they cost only $1.75 each
to fill. Since we keep a water cooler in the kitchen and
fill those water bottles the same way, it's all just part of
the routine. So I'm paying about $5 per 10-gallon batch plus
some gasoline and PITA for my water.

Bart

--
The man without a .sig


 
Date: 21 Jun 2006 14:11:45
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: What type/brand of water filter for city water?


On 21 Jun 2006 05:11:38 -0700, <johnj7777@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I recently moved and now have city water (chlorinated ) water. I have
> used well water for the past 6 years and it worked just fine.
>
> Anyway, what type of filter does everyone use here (type and brand) to
> effectively filter out chlorine and chloramines? What should I expect
> in terms of filter cost?

Have you tried brewing with the city water yet? It depends on your local
water, but I'm on city water and don't use a filter. My beer tastes
good to me.

IIRC, an activated carbon filter will remove chlorine. Boiling will remove
it too. Chloramine is tougher to get rid of.


John.


 
Date: 21 Jun 2006 08:03:16
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse
Subject: Re: What type/brand of water filter for city water?


johnboy <johnj7777@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I recently moved and now have city water (chlorinated ) water. I have
> used well water for the past 6 years and it worked just fine.
>
> Anyway, what type of filter does everyone use here (type and brand) to
> effectively filter out chlorine and chloramines? What should I expect
> in terms of filter cost?
>

I use a reverse osmosis system. The tank and filters are in the basement and
it runs through the floor and to my kitchen sink. Some people run it to the
ice machine as well. You can get a decent GE system for perhaps $200. Here
is a Kenmore version from Sears that appears to be alright:

http://tinyurl.com/h86qo

I couldn't tell if that one is a four stage, but that is what you want. Pre
and post filter, with membrane and an inline carbon filter.

With an RO system, if you keep your filters up to date (depending upon usage,
you should replace the filters every 10 to 12 months, and perhaps the inline
every 6 ... depending upon model), you just treat the water as if it is
distilled water and add your minerals back in according to the profile you are
targetting for your beer (this is GREAT for Pilsners, as it can be a hard
profile to hit with tap water).

> Can Campden tablets be used? And if so, are they effective?
>

Yes, so I have read.

--
Thomas T. Veldhouse
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Date: 21 Jun 2006 16:45:36
From: Gerard Eberlein
Subject: Re: What type/brand of water filter for city water?


> I use a reverse osmosis system. The tank and filters are in the basement
and
> it runs through the floor and to my kitchen sink.

I've heard the reverse osmosis water can remove some trace minerals that are
needed for proper mashing in all grain recipes. Is this not true? I've been
using bottled spring water for just extract and specialty beers I brew, but
if I could use reverse osmosis water I could save a few bucks. I do want to
go to all grain one day and if R/O water works for both types of brewing I
will switch to R/O water instead of spring water.

Gerard





   
Date: 21 Jun 2006 20:57:29
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: What type/brand of water filter for city water?


On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 16:45:36 -0400, <dormouse@charter.net > wrote:
>> I use a reverse osmosis system. The tank and filters are in the basement
> and
>> it runs through the floor and to my kitchen sink.
>
> I've heard the reverse osmosis water can remove some trace minerals that are
> needed for proper mashing in all grain recipes. Is this not true?

No you're right. Further down in Tom's post (part of what you cut out) he
does say that you need to add back the minerals you need for the type of
water you want.


John.


    
Date: 21 Jun 2006 17:55:45
From: Gerard Eberlein
Subject: Re: What type/brand of water filter for city water?



"John 'Shaggy' Kolesar" <spam@shagg.net > wrote in message
news:slrne9jcop.psh.spam@weizen.shagg.net...
> On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 16:45:36 -0400, <dormouse@charter.net> wrote:
> No you're right. Further down in Tom's post (part of what you cut out) he
> does say that you need to add back the minerals you need for the type of
> water you want.

Oh yea I missed that part. Is R/O water OK for just doing extract and
specialty? I assume since I'm steeping the grains at 150 F that spring water
would be choice. But what about the rest of the water? I do full extract
boils.

Gerard




     
Date: 22 Jun 2006 14:54:17
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: What type/brand of water filter for city water?


On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:55:45 -0400, <dormouse@charter.net > wrote:
>
> "John 'Shaggy' Kolesar" <spam@shagg.net> wrote in message
> news:slrne9jcop.psh.spam@weizen.shagg.net...
>> On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 16:45:36 -0400, <dormouse@charter.net> wrote:
>> No you're right. Further down in Tom's post (part of what you cut out) he
>> does say that you need to add back the minerals you need for the type of
>> water you want.
>
> Oh yea I missed that part. Is R/O water OK for just doing extract and
> specialty? I assume since I'm steeping the grains at 150 F that spring water
> would be choice. But what about the rest of the water? I do full extract
> boils.

I don't think mineral content is critical for extract brewing. Hard/soft
water will have an effect on the flavor perception of the final beer, but
using RO or distilled water shouldn't cause the same problems that it would
for all grain. The extract, in essence, already contains the minerals
it needs based on the mash the company did before they turned it into
an extract.


John.


 
Date: 21 Jun 2006 12:54:26
From: Joel
Subject: Re: What type/brand of water filter for city water?


johnboy <johnj7777@yahoo.com > wrote:
>I recently moved and now have city water (chlorinated ) water. I have
>used well water for the past 6 years and it worked just fine.
>
>Anyway, what type of filter does everyone use here (type and brand) to
>effectively filter out chlorine and chloramines? What should I expect
>in terms of filter cost?

Any "whole house" typoe cartridge filter should work.
Just be sure to follow directions for installation, and
change out the cartridge at a rate appropriate to your
use. (Mine gets used only for brewing, and some cooking
applications so doesn't get as much water flowing through
it as it would if I filtered all water.)

>Can Campden tablets be used? And if so, are they effective?

Based on the experience and research of others, and
more recently on my own use, I would say yes.
--
Joel Plutchak

I'm looking California, but feeling Minnesota.


 
Date: 21 Jun 2006 08:24:40
From: Dan Logcher
Subject: Re: What type/brand of water filter for city water?


johnboy wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I recently moved and now have city water (chlorinated ) water. I have
> used well water for the past 6 years and it worked just fine.
>
> Anyway, what type of filter does everyone use here (type and brand) to
> effectively filter out chlorine and chloramines? What should I expect
> in terms of filter cost?

I bought a GE Performance Under-sink filter. I had to drill and punch a
hole in my Stainless Steel sink since my wife wanted to keep the soup
dispenser. Very easy to mount and connect. The flow is pretty slow, but
that's not the fault of the filter, as my house only has 38.5 PSI..

I fill my brew pot and sparge water with the filter, but use regular tap
to top off the fermentor. Its a bit of a pain to reach the top of the
fermentor from teh spigot.

--
Dan