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Date: 07 Jul 2006 15:53:52
From: NiceToBrewers
Subject: What do brewers want?
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Hello all,
I'm in the process of creating a website whose purpose is to help
people do nice things for each other.
Many times, you want to do something for someone, but all you know
about them is that they are interested in a particular hobby or
activity that you don't know much about.
I'm collecting information about as many different hobbies as I can.
So...two questions.
1. What do brewers like/need/want?
I'm looking for a list of things that someone else could pick out for
you that you would really enjoy receiving. This can include items, gift
certificates to particular stores, magazine subscriptions, books,
favors, trips to events, etc. Anything that you would find useful
and/or desirable in your capacity as a brewer. These don't have to be
"bought" items. If you really need lots of empty egg cartons, put it on
the list!
2. If I was married to a brewer, and wanted to better understand
what they are talking about over the dinner table without actually
becoming a brewer myself, what books or websites should I look at?
Any information would be appreciated by myself and likely by the
families and friends of many brewers! The guys over in the woodworking
newsgroup did a great job on their page. I have high hopes for the
brewers! :)
If you want to see what the results look like, click on any of the
links on this page under Find Out What They Like:
http://www.spousalsponsorship.org/pages/index.html
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Date: 09 Jul 2006 19:40:09
From:
Subject: Re: What do brewers want?
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> This applies to pretty much every hobby. Fortunately, there tends to be
> supply places that carry a wide assortment of supplies to appeal to a
> wide range of practitioners. Where do you get your supplies?
>
I want a newsgroup without splam in it.
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Date: 09 Jul 2006 17:30:37
From: NiceToBrewers
Subject: Re: What do brewers want?
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John 'Shaggy' Kolesar wrote:
> There really isn't anything I can think of that would be a universal gift
> for any brewer. There are just too many factors involved.
This applies to pretty much every hobby. Fortunately, there tends to be
supply places that carry a wide assortment of supplies to appeal to a
wide range of practitioners. Where do you get your supplies?
> Honestly, the best advice I can think of for someone wanting to buy a gift
> for a homebrewer is to just ask them what they want.
>
If I asked you "what do you want" what would you tell me? Where would
you send me to get it? :-)
>
> http://www.howtobrew.com (both a book and a website)
>
Thank you! I'll take a look at that.
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Date: 10 Jul 2006 00:13:35
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: What do brewers want?
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On 7 Jul 2006 15:53:52 -0700, <erika@hammerdata.com > wrote:
> 1. What do brewers like/need/want?
The brewing hobby doesn't really fit well with what you are trying to
do. There are basically two kinds of things that brewers generally need.
1) Buy once, use forever. IE, equipment. What type of brewing equipment
someone will want/need is highly dependent on what they already have as
well as what type of brewing they generally do, extract or all grain.
2) Buy multiple times. IE, ingredients. Again, what type of ingredients
to get really depends on what styles of beer the brewer likes to make and
what type of brewing they do.
There really isn't anything I can think of that would be a universal gift
for any brewer. There are just too many factors involved.
Honestly, the best advice I can think of for someone wanting to buy a gift
for a homebrewer is to just ask them what they want.
> 2. If I was married to a brewer, and wanted to better understand
> what they are talking about over the dinner table without actually
> becoming a brewer myself, what books or websites should I look at?
http://www.howtobrew.com (both a book and a website)
John.
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Date: 09 Jul 2006 16:39:19
From: NiceToBrewers
Subject: Re: What do brewers want?
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Nobody?
I'm just wrapping up with the flyfishers and I was hoping to start
researching stuff for brewers. Don't you folks like gift certificates
for brewing supplies and suchlike?
BTW, here's how the flyfishing page is turning out:
http://www.spousalsponsorship.org/pages/flyfishing/index.html
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Date: 10 Jul 2006 09:37:24
From: Ryan Case
Subject: Re: What do brewers want?
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NiceToBrewers wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I'm in the process of creating a website whose purpose is to help
> people do nice things for each other.
>
> Many times, you want to do something for someone, but all you know
> about them is that they are interested in a particular hobby or
> activity that you don't know much about.
>
> I'm collecting information about as many different hobbies as I can.
> So...two questions.
>
> 1. What do brewers like/need/want?
> I'm looking for a list of things that someone else could pick out for
> you that you would really enjoy receiving. This can include items, gift
> certificates to particular stores, magazine subscriptions, books,
> favors, trips to events, etc. Anything that you would find useful
> and/or desirable in your capacity as a brewer. These don't have to be
> "bought" items. If you really need lots of empty egg cartons, put it on
> the list!
>
> 2. If I was married to a brewer, and wanted to better understand
> what they are talking about over the dinner table without actually
> becoming a brewer myself, what books or websites should I look at?
>
> Any information would be appreciated by myself and likely by the
> families and friends of many brewers! The guys over in the woodworking
> newsgroup did a great job on their page. I have high hopes for the
> brewers! :)
>
> If you want to see what the results look like, click on any of the
> links on this page under Find Out What They Like:
> http://www.spousalsponsorship.org/pages/index.html
>
I would think that a really good idea for a home brewer would be a
membership to the beer of the month club, if there is such a thing. I
know that my younger brother got my mother one to the cheese of the
month club for Christmas one year. She gets four different .1/4lb
cheeses every other month.
If you could figure out a way to do something like that with /different/
exotic beers...
what would make it even better is if you could get it coupled with a
book that explains each style and includes a recipe for it.
To parrot what someone else mentions below, a spouse that learned to
make Bavarian pretzels, or bread out of spent grain, that kind of thing
goes a long way too. My wife will make meatballs for me to take to the
club meetings.
My wife doesn't drink beer, but she really tries to show an interest in
how a brew session went, how I perceive the fermentation to be going,
etc. And she tells me she likes the smell of the fermenting ales in the
office.
Personalized beer glasses for him to serve his brew to his friends in.
Another good idea is for the spouse of the home brewer to see if she has
anything in common with the other spouses. I know there are some members
of our club that have found their wives get along swimmingly. This makes
it much easier to get together for a pint.
Ryan
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Date: 10 Jul 2006 18:24:05
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Custom Glassware (Re: What do brewers want?)
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On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 09:37:24 -0700, <usenet@jamesrobert.us > wrote:
> Personalized beer glasses for him to serve his brew to his friends in.
Do you know of any place that does these for relatively small quantities?
I've found lots of places online that do personalized glasses, but most of
the time they require very large "minimum" orders, like 50+. I'm assuming
the cost to setup their equipment for a particular run of glasses is high
and they require a minimum order so they can spread the setup cost out over
a lot of units.
It'd be nice to find a place that would make 6 glasses or so without charging
an arm and a leg to print them.
John.
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Date: 10 Jul 2006 12:33:03
From: Ryan Case
Subject: Re: Custom Glassware (Re: What do brewers want?)
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John 'Shaggy' Kolesar wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 09:37:24 -0700, <usenet@jamesrobert.us> wrote:
>> Personalized beer glasses for him to serve his brew to his friends in.
>
> Do you know of any place that does these for relatively small quantities?
> I've found lots of places online that do personalized glasses, but most of
> the time they require very large "minimum" orders, like 50+. I'm assuming
> the cost to setup their equipment for a particular run of glasses is high
> and they require a minimum order so they can spread the setup cost out over
> a lot of units.
>
> It'd be nice to find a place that would make 6 glasses or so without charging
> an arm and a leg to print them.
>
>
> John.
One of my sisters bought the other sister some for christmas a couple
years ago. I will ask here where she got them.
Ryan
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 20:41:50
From: Joe Wehry
Subject: Re: Custom Glassware (Re: What do brewers want?)
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On 10 Jul 2006 18:24:05 GMT, John 'Shaggy' Kolesar <spam@shagg.net >
wrote:
>On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 09:37:24 -0700, <usenet@jamesrobert.us> wrote:
>> Personalized beer glasses for him to serve his brew to his friends in.
>
>Do you know of any place that does these for relatively small quantities?
>I've found lots of places online that do personalized glasses, but most of
>the time they require very large "minimum" orders, like 50+. I'm assuming
>the cost to setup their equipment for a particular run of glasses is high
>and they require a minimum order so they can spread the setup cost out over
>a lot of units.
>
>It'd be nice to find a place that would make 6 glasses or so without charging
>an arm and a leg to print them.
>
>
>John.
I hang out here occationaly and I hadn't read the posts in a while but
are a few places you can try. Hopefully it's not too late for what you
needed.
http://www.discountmugs.com/mixing-glasses.htm
http://www.customglassware.com/allglass2.htm
http://www.advertisingedge.com/productdetail.asp?sid=133292&ProdID=1081
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Date: 17 Aug 2006 17:54:27
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Custom Glassware (Re: What do brewers want?)
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On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 20:41:50 -0700, <jwehry@comcast.net > wrote:
> needed.
>
>
> http://www.discountmugs.com/mixing-glasses.htm
>
> http://www.customglassware.com/allglass2.htm
>
> http://www.advertisingedge.com/productdetail.asp?sid=133292&ProdID=1081
Thanks, I'll check those out.
John.
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 08:24:01
From: Walter Venables
Subject: Re: Custom Glassware (Re: What do brewers want?)
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I think these products are great but who needs 700+ glasses or mugs as a
minimum order unless you are a bar.
"John 'Shaggy' Kolesar" <spam@shagg.net > wrote in message
news:slrnee9bfe.ej5.spam@weizen.shagg.net...
> On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 20:41:50 -0700, <jwehry@comcast.net> wrote:
> > needed.
> >
> >
> > http://www.discountmugs.com/mixing-glasses.htm
> >
> > http://www.customglassware.com/allglass2.htm
> >
> > http://www.advertisingedge.com/productdetail.asp?sid=133292&ProdID=1081
>
>
> Thanks, I'll check those out.
>
>
> John.
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 14:41:02
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Custom Glassware (Re: What do brewers want?)
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On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 08:24:01 -0500, <wvenables@charter.net > wrote:
> I think these products are great but who needs 700+ glasses or mugs as a
> minimum order unless you are a bar.
Yeah, that was the basic point of the original thread. I was looking for
suggestions on places to check that didn't have rediculous minimum order
numbers. Most of them make it relatively impractical to order custom
glassware for personal/home use.
John.
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Date: 10 Jul 2006 08:18:54
From: NiceToBrewers
Subject: Re: What do brewers want?
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John 'Shaggy' Kolesar wrote:
> Yeah, that was my first thought as well. IE, they were just trying to
> push the link to their website to generate more hits. I don't know if
> that's true or not, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now.
>
Thank you. BTW, I'm glad you view the internet with a wary eye. That's
wise. I'm also glad you are willing to look beyond that wariness.
That's also wise.
If you look at the site, you will find very little that can benefit
from pure hit generation. I've been on the net for a long time. I
intensely dislike sites that exist for the sole purpose of tricking
people into clicking on ads. I want my corner of the internet to be
about something else, something real. The content makes every effort to
be truly valuable. I'm here because I genuinely want the input of
people who really do this. I don't feel it's possible to make a truly
valuable page without such input. I provided the link so you could see
for yourself what the site is about. I usually only provide a link
twice. Once at the beginning of the thread, and once at the end so you
can (if you wish) look at the finished page and tell me if I did it
right. That's why there's no linked signature on my posts.
In the interest of informed decision making:
You will find on my site no "context based" ads, no dynamic banners, no
impression counters, no cookie readers or writers, no hidden forms, no
pop-anywheres or anything like that. I collect no information from you.
While I may take of advantage of existing affiliate programs to defray
hosting costs and the gift certificates I often send as thanks to those
who provide really good content, the affiliate links are not the point.
You will never see a link to something that has not been recommended,
or that I don't think is a good recommendation. You will see many links
to recommended things that have no affiliate programs. You will see
many recommendations that don't involve buying anything from anywhere.
Even when I do use affiliate links, I make sure they are static images
without attached impression counters that only show the particular
thing being recommended.
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Date: 10 Jul 2006 06:55:02
From: NiceToBrewers
Subject: Re: What do brewers want?
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Larry Bristol wrote:
> They like someone to say, "Hey! This is a really good beer!"
> They need someone to say, "Hey! This is a really good beer!"
> They want someone to say, "Hey! This is a really good beer!"
>
OK. I can definitely mention appreciation of the final product. :)
Non-tangibles are great. The flyfishers wanted their spouses to do a
better job of pretending to believe their fishing lies.
> I doubt most brewers think about this very much, but brewing is one of the
> most social of hobbies. Some hobbies are extremely solitary (I'm thinking
> of stamp/coin collecting, woodworking, etc.), while others might typically
> be done in a small group (fishing, hunting, et al). The most social aspect
> of MANY hobbies is when the interested parties gather to talk about their
> common interest. And how often are these discussions held in someone's
> backyard BBQ, at a bar, or some other location, while throwing back a few
> glasses of beer?
>
An *excellent* point. I hadn't considered the social aspect. Perhaps
I'll suggest throwing a beer party for your brewer where their friends
can enjoy and loudly praise the beer, or bring their own if they are
also brewers.
> OK, so back to your question. One needs "stuff" to brew, both ingredients
> and equipment. It would be very difficult for a non-brewer to understand
> what would constitute a great gift for a brewer, and every brewer will be
> different. The best bet would be to find out where the brewer typically
> buys his "stuff", and get a gift certificate.
Where do you get your stuff?
> Personally, I think
> it's pretty special for the non-brewing spouse to take up a related hobby.
> For instance, learning what foods go best with what styles of beer!
Ooohh! What a *great* idea! That sounds like fun for everybody. Making
meals to go with whatever kind of beer your brewer is trying at the
moment. Thank you! That's a wonderful suggestion.
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Date: 10 Jul 2006 09:25:15
From: Larry Bristol
Subject: Re: What do brewers want?
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NiceToBrewers wrote:
> An *excellent* point. I hadn't considered the social aspect. Perhaps
> I'll suggest throwing a beer party for your brewer where their friends
> can enjoy and loudly praise the beer, or bring their own if they are
> also brewers.
I know that is something *I* would like!
> Where do you get your stuff?
Most of the time, I frequent a LHBS (local home brew shop) in Houston, even
though I live about 75 miles away. It was the first place I visited, back
in 1983 when I first started this crazy hobby, and the proprietor soon
became a good friend. It's called "DeFalco's Home Beer and Wine
Shop" (http://www.defalcos.com). [Typical standard disclaimer - I am not
affiliated in any way, etc., etc. Isn't there one of those special
acronyms for this? I've forgotten it.] I also sometimes get "stuff" from
an online supplier, "Beer, Beer, and More Beer" (http://morebeer.com).
[Same disclaimer.] Both of these happen to sell gift certificates, and I
have personally received such as gifts in the past.
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Date: 10 Jul 2006 06:39:48
From: NiceToBrewers
Subject: Re: What do brewers want?
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Joel wrote:
> I'm with JL. This is a USENET newsgroup for discussion
> of brewing topics, not to help set up some web site. Spam
> by any other name...
Since this group seems to consider this unwelcome, I'll move on. Sorry
to have bothered you. There will still be a page on the site for being
nice to home brewers (thanks to some excellent contributions via
private email) and I hope you all receive much support and many nice
things from it. Meanwhile, the acoustic guitar players have asked if
they can be next!
Best regards and enjoy your beer!
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Date: 10 Jul 2006 08:25:52
From: Larry Bristol
Subject: Re: What do brewers want?
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NiceToBrewers wrote:
> 1. What do brewers like/need/want?
> I'm looking for a list of things that someone else could pick out for
> you that you would really enjoy receiving. This can include items, gift
> certificates to particular stores, magazine subscriptions, books,
> favors, trips to events, etc. Anything that you would find useful
> and/or desirable in your capacity as a brewer. These don't have to be
> "bought" items. If you really need lots of empty egg cartons, put it on
> the list!
They like someone to say, "Hey! This is a really good beer!"
They need someone to say, "Hey! This is a really good beer!"
They want someone to say, "Hey! This is a really good beer!"
I doubt most brewers think about this very much, but brewing is one of the
most social of hobbies. Some hobbies are extremely solitary (I'm thinking
of stamp/coin collecting, woodworking, etc.), while others might typically
be done in a small group (fishing, hunting, et al). The most social aspect
of MANY hobbies is when the interested parties gather to talk about their
common interest. And how often are these discussions held in someone's
backyard BBQ, at a bar, or some other location, while throwing back a few
glasses of beer?
Brewing is obviously the BEST of all hobbies, because the whole purpose of
brewing is to get friends (other brewers as well as non-brewers) together
to share a few glasses of beer, and TALK ABOUT THAT BEER! Talk about going
for the jugular!
OK, so back to your question. One needs "stuff" to brew, both ingredients
and equipment. It would be very difficult for a non-brewer to understand
what would constitute a great gift for a brewer, and every brewer will be
different. The best bet would be to find out where the brewer typically
buys his "stuff", and get a gift certificate.
> 2. If I was married to a brewer, and wanted to better understand
> what they are talking about over the dinner table without actually
> becoming a brewer myself, what books or websites should I look at?
Learn about beer so you can talk intelligently about it. Learn to recognize
both the good and the not-so-good aspects of any given beer. Michael
Jackson's (the OTHER one) beer guides would be useful. Personally, I think
it's pretty special for the non-brewing spouse to take up a related hobby.
For instance, learning what foods go best with what styles of beer! But
perhaps more than anything, the non-brewer should practice, practice,
practice!
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Date: 10 Jul 2006 05:05:07
From: NiceToBrewers
Subject: Re: What do brewers want?
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jlkeeney@gmail.com wrote:
> > This applies to pretty much every hobby. Fortunately, there tends to be
> > supply places that carry a wide assortment of supplies to appeal to a
> > wide range of practitioners. Where do you get your supplies?
> >
>
>
> I want a newsgroup without splam in it.
I understand how it may look that way, but it's really not. I'm not
selling anything or trying to deceive anyone. I am a wife with a
husband whose hobby (tractor pulling) I don't really know anything
about. I still want to support him in what he does and try to make him
happy whenever possible. I spent a lot of money on things he didn't
want or need because they looked like they might fit one of his
tractors until I learned what he was really after. I'm not the only
one.
If this group doesn't want to participate, then I'll move on to another
group. However, once people figure out what I'm doing, they seem to
have quite a bit of fun telling me about their favorite sites and
magazines and how they like to do what they do. They also seem to like
the resulting page.
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Date: 10 Jul 2006 17:13:25
From: NiceToBrewers
Subject: Re: What do brewers want?
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jlkeeney@gmail.com wrote:
> My apologies, as you are not presenting "splam" obviously.
>
None needed. I know it's hard to tell at first glance. At least you
guys weren't requesting...um...services...that really belong on a whole
different kind of site.
> AHA membership (and subscription to Zymurgy) would be a great gift
> idea, subscription to "Brew Your Own" would be fine for most also.
>
Oh, good! I like having magazine subscriptions on the list. Thank you!
> Recently released 3rd edition of "How To Brew" and going with her
> homebrewer to visit a micro brewery would be cool also, as well as
> setting up a trip to the "great american brew fest", or the National
> Homebrew Festival, or any number of regional festivals would be a great
> way for someone to gift a homebrewer. Throw in a refractometer and all
> is good!!
>
One of the many things I liked about the AHA site was the list of fun
looking events to attend. Any pointers for where can I find a list of
more events and festivals? Also, do we like regional brewery tours,
like Yuengling?
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Date: 10 Jul 2006 16:53:39
From:
Subject: Re: What do brewers want?
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NiceToBrewers wrote:
> Looking at the How To Brew book led me to the American Homebrewers
> Association. They seem to have a bunch of fun stuff, including the
> ability to purchase a gift membership for someone. Do we like the AHA?
My apologies, as you are not presenting "splam" obviously.
AHA membership (and subscription to Zymurgy) would be a great gift
idea, subscription to "Brew Your Own" would be fine for most also.
Recently released 3rd edition of "How To Brew" and going with her
homebrewer to visit a micro brewery would be cool also, as well as
setting up a trip to the "great american brew fest", or the National
Homebrew Festival, or any number of regional festivals would be a great
way for someone to gift a homebrewer. Throw in a refractometer and all
is good!!
Jerry
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Date: 10 Jul 2006 16:36:41
From: NiceToBrewers
Subject: Re: What do brewers want?
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Looking at the How To Brew book led me to the American Homebrewers
Association. They seem to have a bunch of fun stuff, including the
ability to purchase a gift membership for someone. Do we like the AHA?
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Date: 10 Jul 2006 13:23:08
From: NiceToBrewers
Subject: Re: Custom Glassware (Re: What do brewers want?)
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John 'Shaggy' Kolesar wrote:
> I assume the difference is that setting up a stencil for engraving is a
> lot easier than setting up a screen for color printing. I don't think
> the image I have in mind would work well for engraving though.
>
Setting up for engraving is a whole different thing.
At any rate, as I said, I'm glad to help with your image if you want to
give it a try on one of the print-on-demand sites.
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Date: 10 Jul 2006 12:41:15
From: NiceToBrewers
Subject: Re: Custom Glassware (Re: What do brewers want?)
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John 'Shaggy' Kolesar wrote:
> It'd be nice to find a place that would make 6 glasses or so without charging
> an arm and a leg to print them.
One thing I do see is that engravers will do small quanitites as
wedding gifts. If engraving will work for you (as opposed to printing)
you actually have a lot of choices. This is the first of many examples
I saw. I don't recommend this site in particular.
http://www.acustomengraver.com/wedgifts/183.html
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Date: 10 Jul 2006 20:13:08
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Custom Glassware (Re: What do brewers want?)
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On 10 Jul 2006 12:41:15 -0700, <erika@hammerdata.com > wrote:
>
> John 'Shaggy' Kolesar wrote:
>> It'd be nice to find a place that would make 6 glasses or so without charging
>> an arm and a leg to print them.
>
> One thing I do see is that engravers will do small quanitites as
> wedding gifts. If engraving will work for you (as opposed to printing)
> you actually have a lot of choices. This is the first of many examples
> I saw. I don't recommend this site in particular.
> http://www.acustomengraver.com/wedgifts/183.html
I assume the difference is that setting up a stencil for engraving is a
lot easier than setting up a screen for color printing. I don't think
the image I have in mind would work well for engraving though.
I did run into one place that charged $39 for setting up a screen, but after
that they would sell with a minimum order of 12 at something like $6 per
glass (not sure how many colors that includes, probably only 1).
John.
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Date: 10 Jul 2006 11:57:26
From: NiceToBrewers
Subject: Re: Custom Glassware (Re: What do brewers want?)
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John 'Shaggy' Kolesar wrote:
> Maybe I was just doing something wrong though.
>
The trick is to make your image the right size, even if a lot of it is
whitespace.
For a stein, they want the image to be 1663 x 600. Then, it should
leave your graphic at full height. If the image is not that size, it
may get scaled in a way you don't like when you try to put it on the
item.
If you would like help making a graphic that is the correct size to see
if you like it, I'm happy to help. Let me know...
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Date: 10 Jul 2006 11:30:53
From: NiceToBrewers
Subject: Re: Custom Glassware (Re: What do brewers want?)
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John 'Shaggy' Kolesar wrote:
> It'd be nice to find a place that would make 6 glasses or so without charging
> an arm and a leg to print them.
>
CafePress will print beer steins one at a time, but not glasses. If
steins interest you, I'l point you to them.
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Date: 10 Jul 2006 18:49:11
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Custom Glassware (Re: What do brewers want?)
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On 10 Jul 2006 11:30:53 -0700, <erika@hammerdata.com > wrote:
>
> John 'Shaggy' Kolesar wrote:
>
>> It'd be nice to find a place that would make 6 glasses or so without charging
>> an arm and a leg to print them.
>>
>
> CafePress will print beer steins one at a time, but not glasses. If
> steins interest you, I'l point you to them.
Yeah, I've seen them before. I've actually got a custom stein from another
website that they had printed there. The one thing I didn't like too much
about their custom steins is that they limit you to the overall height of the
graphic. If you've got a horizontal graphic (wider than tall) then it
works out alright, but if you've got a vertical graphic (taller than wide)
it doesn't look right. I could only get it to end up with a really small
version of the image on the stein. The 3" height limitation on the stein
seemed a little restrictive. Based on the demo pictures they make that
shows your graphic on the stein, it seems like they would have plenty of
room on the stein to go larger. They've got the same height limitation on
the stein that they do on the coffee mugs, seems kind of weird.
Maybe I was just doing something wrong though.
John.
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Date: 11 Jul 2006 20:28:38
From: NiceToBrewers
Subject: Re: What do brewers want?
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OK, guys! How did I do? What did I miss?
http://www.spousalsponsorship.org/pages/homebrewing/
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Date: 12 Jul 2006 04:34:01
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: What do brewers want?
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NiceToBrewers <erika@hammerdata.com > wrote:
> OK, guys! How did I do? What did I miss?
> http://www.spousalsponsorship.org/pages/homebrewing/
I've read your spam in a beekeepers' newsgroup. It looks to me
that you're fishing for visitors to your website.
BTW: The answer is "faster horses, younger women, older whiskey,
and more money."
Dick
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Date: 11 Jul 2006 15:21:21
From: NiceToBrewers
Subject: Re: What do brewers want?
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FYI: Your page is about halfway done and is coming out great.
On another note, I've been talking to the acoustic guitar players. If
you want an appreciative audience, you should look these people up. All
they want in the whole wide world is beer. There is one of them who
says that he holds guitar parties where they play music and invite
local homebrewers to bring beer and listen to music and they all have a
grand time of it. It sounds like it's right up your alley. Get your
local homebrewers club in touch with the local acoustic guitar crowd
and you could really have something!
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Date: 12 Jul 2006 09:07:27
From: mreckt
Subject: Re: What do brewers want?
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NiceToBrewers wrote:
> <snip> At least you
> guys weren't requesting...um...services...that really belong on a whole
> different kind of site.
You know, I must admit that's what *I* was thinking after you commented
in an earlier post: "I am a wife with a husband ... try to make him
happy whenever possible."
You won't need a website for that! ;-)
--
Mark Recktenwald
Stow, Ohio, USA
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Date: 12 Jul 2006 09:02:14
From: mreckt
Subject: Re: What do brewers want?
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Larry Bristol wrote:
> <snip> [Typical standard disclaimer - I am not
> affiliated in any way, etc., etc. Isn't there one of those special
> acronyms for this? I've forgotten it.] <snip>
NA = no affiliation
- or -
NAYYY = no affiliation, yadda, yadda, yadda
I know the Seinfeld writers didn't invent "yadda, yadda, yadda", but
damn, I love that show!
--
Mark Recktenwald
Stow, Ohio, USA
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Date: 12 Jul 2006 08:47:59
From: NiceToBrewers
Subject: Re: What do brewers want?
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OK, here's the hard one. There's one more thing I'd like from you guys,
if I can get it. Then your page will be finished.
I'm even willing to bribe you for it. :-)
This is a two-parter. If anybody wants to come up with either or both
of these, I'll send you a $10 gift certficate via email from Northern
Brewer or the place of your (or their) choice that offers $10 gift
certificates for each of the two parts. If I get more than one, the one
I like best wins. Funny is good, but not required.
Part 1. Briefly (250 words or less) answer the question "Why do you
like being a homebrewer?"
Part 2. I would love to have a paragraph or two from one of your
spouses, partners, significant others or non-homebrewer friends about
what it's like to live with a homebrewer or a story about the things
they love you in spite of. If you look at the Chocolate page or the
Antique Tractor Pulling page or the Flyfishing page, you'll see these
near the top of each page.
If you don't want to post it here, you can send it to me via email. If
you want it on the page anonymously, fine. If you want credit and/or a
link to your site, also fine.
Any takers?
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Date: 12 Jul 2006 05:46:36
From: NiceToBrewers
Subject: Re: What do brewers want?
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Larry Bristol wrote:
> Apparently, you're now doing them in alphabetical order: beekeeping,
> beer, ...
>
*grin* Not really. Woodworking and flyfishing were between beekeeping
and beer. I'm just kind of following my nose. In many cases, someone
from one newsgroup suggests I go to another where they are also active.
I don't really have a plan. I'm currently also working with the
acoustic guitarists and the robot builders on their pages. I'd like to
get the beekeepers too, but their group has lower activity, and it's
taking awhile. Beekeeping actually looks really interesting!
> I looked at your homebrewing page. Very nice job!
>
I'm glad you like it. Only someone who actually does this can tell me
if it's right. I spend 20-30 hours on each page between time spent on
the newsgroup, researching what's recommended, writing it up and
putting it all together. It's important to me to end up with something
of actual value.
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Date: 12 Jul 2006 05:01:42
From: NiceToBrewers
Subject: Re: What do brewers want?
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Dick Adams wrote:
> NiceToBrewers <erika@hammerdata.com> wrote:
>
> > OK, guys! How did I do? What did I miss?
> > http://www.spousalsponsorship.org/pages/homebrewing/
>
> I've read your spam in a beekeepers' newsgroup. It looks to me
> that you're fishing for visitors to your website.
>
Looks can be deceiving.
I'm working my way through the newsgroups collecting information about
various hobbies. Every thread starts with accusations of spamming.
Soon, however, people do figure out what I'm doing and then it's
generally fun. If you read the rest of this thread you'll see where we
already went through this. I've gotten some great information from the
homebrewers and built what I hope is a good and useful page for people
who want to be nice to them. I'd love to do the same for the
beekeepers, if you would consider giving me the benefit of the doubt.
Go and look at the site and you'll see what I'm doing. There's nothing
there that will blink, flash, cookie or collect any information from
you.
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Date: 12 Jul 2006 07:16:26
From: Larry Bristol
Subject: Re: What do brewers want?
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NiceToBrewers wrote:
> I'm working my way through the newsgroups collecting information about
> various hobbies.
Apparently, you're now doing them in alphabetical order: beekeeping,
beer, ...
I looked at your homebrewing page. Very nice job!
--
Larry Bristol --- The Double Luck
http://www.doubleluck.com
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Date: 12 Jul 2006 14:06:47
From: NiceToBrewers
Subject: Re: What do brewers want?
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Larry Bristol wrote:
> I looked at your homebrewing page. Very nice job!
>
> --
> Larry Bristol --- The Double Luck
> http://www.doubleluck.com
And I just looked at the Double Luck Brewery! All the recipes and the
process pages. Please, please, please do at least one of the "essays".
I'd love to link into your brewery site.
And finish the railroad section. Wanna see the gardens and the G-scale
trains!!!
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Date: 14 Jul 2006 09:10:35
From: Larry Bristol
Subject: Re: What do brewers want?
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NiceToBrewers wrote:
> And I just looked at the Double Luck Brewery! All the recipes and the
> process pages. Please, please, please do at least one of the "essays".
> I'd love to link into your brewery site.
Curiously, I did all that so that my non-brewer friends would have some idea
of what I was talking about. It's a long way from being authoritative; it
was more for fun than anything else.
> And finish the railroad section. Wanna see the gardens and the G-scale
> trains!!!
And there's another hobby for you to work on. Marsha and I are so very busy
all the time we hardly ever have a chance to work on the gardens, and there
is *STILL* not one foot of track laid. I haven't even been able to keep
the "history" pages up to date! <sigh >
--
Larry Bristol --- The Double Luck
http://www.doubleluck.com
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Date: 13 Jul 2006 16:30:56
From: NiceToBrewers
Subject: Re: What do brewers want?
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Hello Homebrewers,
I'll be moving on now, but I'll keep an eye out here for a while
longer. The acoustic guitarists have given me enough to do their page,
and the roboticists are coming along too.
The homebrewing page is completed and linked into the rest of the site.
Thank you very much for all your input. If any of you decide you want
to give me one of those little paragraphs, or want to get in touch with
me, feel free to email me.
I hope you all receive much spousal support and good things with which
to make the finest of beers!
Thanks again!
- Erika
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Date: 02 Aug 2006 18:01:45
From: NiceToBrewers
Subject: Re: What do brewers want?
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mreckt wrote:
> You know, I must admit that's what *I* was thinking after you commented
> in an earlier post: "I am a wife with a husband ... try to make him
> happy whenever possible."
>
> You won't need a website for that! ;-)
>
> --
> Mark Recktenwald
> Stow, Ohio, USA
Mark,
I didn't see this post until today for some reason. You're right around
the corner from me! I'm in Garrettsville, OH.
- Erika
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 08:16:53
From: miker
Subject: Re: Custom Glassware (Re: What do brewers want?)
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John 'Shaggy' Kolesar wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 08:24:01 -0500, <wvenables@charter.net> wrote:
> > I think these products are great but who needs 700+ glasses or mugs as a
> > minimum order unless you are a bar.
>
> Yeah, that was the basic point of the original thread. I was looking for
> suggestions on places to check that didn't have rediculous minimum order
> numbers. Most of them make it relatively impractical to order custom
> glassware for personal/home use.
>
>
> John.
I ordered 4 personalized beer pints for some fellow homebrewing friends
last Christmas from a place advertised in BYO magazine. They weren't
that expensive and came out great. I'll try to remember to find the
name of the place for you but am posting this now in case I forget
(like I did when I saw this thread a while back). If you get BYO you
can search for it there now or maybe go back to an issue from last
year.
Mike
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 12:31:35
From: NiceToBrewers
Subject: Re: Custom Glassware (Re: What do brewers want?)
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John 'Shaggy' Kolesar wrote:
> Yeah, that was the basic point of the original thread. I was looking for
> suggestions on places to check that didn't have rediculous minimum order
> numbers. Most of them make it relatively impractical to order custom
> glassware for personal/home use.
John,
This place has a minimum order of only 12. With the screen charge for
one color printing, the mixing glasses I looked came out to about $10
each. Obviously, the more you order, the cheaper they get.
http://www.discountmugs.com/custom-glassware.htm
- Erika
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Date: 23 Aug 2006 07:12:50
From: miker
Subject: Re: Custom Glassware (Re: What do brewers want?)
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Finally remembered to check for the glasses and found the ad in
November 2005 issue of BYO for the place I ordered some last year. As
far as I know there is no minimum order although I did get four. They
made a nice personalized gift I believe.
http://www.esigns4u.com/
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