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Date: 22 Sep 2006 14:18:57
From: Gerard Eberlein
Subject: What Hops Should I Try? Suggestions Wanted
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I have an arrogant bastard recipe I tried before and I was underwhelmed by
the flavour and aroma, although the bittering was good. The recipe follows:
(Starting Gravity: 1.074-1.080) (Finishing Gravity: 1.014-1.020)
(Approximate Alcohol
Content: 7.4-7.9%) (78 IBU)
Ingredients:
Amber DME 4.0 pounds
Wheat DME 4.0 pounds
*Special-B 8.0 ounces
*Biscuit 8.0 ounces
*Aromatic 8.0 ounces
*CaraMunich 8.0 ounces
Corn Sugar (Bottling) .75 cups
Magnum (Bittering - 60 min.) 1.0 ounces
Columbus (Bittering - 50 min.) 0.5 ounces
Centennial (Flavoring - 30 min.) 0.5 ounces
Centennial (Finishing - Dry) 1.0 ounces
Irish Moss 1.0 package
Wyeast #1056 American Ale 1.0 package
I couldn't find centennial when I brewed it before so I used Amarillo 7.1%
as a substitute. The beer tasted fine, just wasn't what I expected. I"m
going to make another batch this weekend and last night I just bought almost
5lbs of pellet hops including:
centennial 8.5% AA
chinook 12%
simcoe 12.6%
columbus 14.8%
warrior 16.8%
I also have a few ounces of Amarillo 7.1% from before. From what I'm reading
Amarillo, Simcoe and Warrior are know for low cohumulone levels about 21% to
24% for Warrior and Amarillo and 15-20% for Simcoe thus theoretically giving
a smoother bitterness, which is what I would like, so I will probably use
one of the 3 or a combination for bittering. As well I will be trying first
wort hopping for the first time but not sure on what flavouring hops I would
like to add to the mix, nor which I will use for dry hopping. I really want
to use this recipe as a "base" recipe to experiment because to me my first
attempt came out tasting like an IPA, a beer I really love. Any suggestions
on hop additions, including upping the hop levels,addition times, etc. are
eagerly welcomed. Thanx in advance.
Gerard
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Date: 22 Sep 2006 19:54:08
From: John Bleichert
Subject: Re: What Hops Should I Try? Suggestions Wanted
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Gerard Eberlein <dormouse@charter.net > wrote:
<snip >
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> I also have a few ounces of Amarillo 7.1% from before. From what I'm reading
> Amarillo, Simcoe and Warrior are know for low cohumulone levels about 21% to
> 24% for Warrior and Amarillo and 15-20% for Simcoe thus theoretically giving
> a smoother bitterness, which is what I would like, so I will probably use
> one of the 3 or a combination for bittering. As well I will be trying first
> wort hopping for the first time but not sure on what flavouring hops I would
> like to add to the mix, nor which I will use for dry hopping. I really want
> to use this recipe as a "base" recipe to experiment because to me my first
> attempt came out tasting like an IPA, a beer I really love. Any suggestions
> on hop additions, including upping the hop levels,addition times, etc. are
> eagerly welcomed. Thanx in advance.
>
> Gerard
>
It's been my experience so far that FWH works really well for me in
lightly-hopped beers and not so well in hoppy ales. This is probably
just my inexperience though. I took the 0.5 ozs of flavoring hops I've
always used in an English pale ale recipe (at 20 minutes) and moved
them to FWH and *wow* was it a much stronger flavor.
Moral of the story - be careful. I'm sure the other folks in here can
add some info. 1 oz of boiled flavoring hops does *not* seem to be the
same as 1 oz of FWH for flavoring.
Delicious in a recent hefeweizen though (only 0.25 oz FWH).
JB
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John Bleichert syborg@earthlink.net
The heat from below can burn your eyes out!!
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Date: 22 Sep 2006 11:49:46
From: Denny Conn
Subject: Re: What Hops Should I Try? Suggestions Wanted
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Gerard Eberlein wrote:
>
> I have an arrogant bastard recipe I tried before and I was underwhelmed by
> the flavour and aroma, although the bittering was good. The recipe follows:
<snippage >
>
> I also have a few ounces of Amarillo 7.1% from before. From what I'm reading
> Amarillo, Simcoe and Warrior are know for low cohumulone levels about 21% to
> 24% for Warrior and Amarillo and 15-20% for Simcoe thus theoretically giving
> a smoother bitterness, which is what I would like, so I will probably use
> one of the 3 or a combination for bittering. As well I will be trying first
> wort hopping for the first time but not sure on what flavouring hops I would
> like to add to the mix, nor which I will use for dry hopping. I really want
> to use this recipe as a "base" recipe to experiment because to me my first
> attempt came out tasting like an IPA, a beer I really love. Any suggestions
> on hop additions, including upping the hop levels,addition times, etc. are
> eagerly welcomed. Thanx in advance.
I'd go back to your original recipe, but double the Centennial
addition. AND, add 1 oz. Centennial as FWH. You'll need to recalc your
bittering addition, unless you want the added bitterness from the FWH
and doubled Centennials.
------------ >Denny
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Life begins at 60...1.060, that is.
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