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Date: 15 Aug 2006 16:52:36
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Update on frozen beer.
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Dick Adams <rdadams@smart.net > wrote:
> A 5-gallon pressurized corney was in a closet for at least
> 6 weeks. Three days ago I stuck it in the chest freezer.
> 48 hours later it was frozen and no beer came out. Two days
> ago I had surgery so I can't lift it. So I unplugged the
> chest freezer and left it open. The keg is the lone occupant.
> My basement is now about 77F (25C).
I got the keg out and it has unthawed. The beer had been
kept at 25 psi for sometime. I was reduced to 10 psi before
putting it in the freezer.
The head on this beer is awesome. But it's all head. What
should I do? Drink it myself is a very acceptable option.
But I'd like to bottle some for my friends.
Dick
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Date: 15 Aug 2006 15:10:50
From: Bill Riel
Subject: Re: Update on frozen beer.
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In article <12e3uukejkkc0a@corp.supernews.com >, rdadams@smart.net
says...
> The head on this beer is awesome. But it's all head. What
> should I do? Drink it myself is a very acceptable option.
> But I'd like to bottle some for my friends.
While I haven't duplicated your experience, I have had kegs that were
pretty overcarbonated. It usually takes some time to get the level down
(via frequent venting).
Drinking some helps too, because you increase the headspace and that can
really help get that CO2 out of solution.
Bill
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Date: 15 Aug 2006 21:49:27
From: Bob
Subject: Re: Update on frozen beer.
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"Bill Riel" <me@privacy.net > wrote in message
news:MPG.1f4be641975fcab69896cd@news.individual.net...
> In article <12e3uukejkkc0a@corp.supernews.com>, rdadams@smart.net
> says...
>
> > The head on this beer is awesome. But it's all head. What
> > should I do? Drink it myself is a very acceptable option.
> > But I'd like to bottle some for my friends.
>
> While I haven't duplicated your experience, I have had kegs that were
> pretty overcarbonated. It usually takes some time to get the level down
> (via frequent venting).
>
> Drinking some helps too, because you increase the headspace and that can
> really help get that CO2 out of solution.
It would seem like what you need for overcarbonated kegs is an adjustable
relief valve. Set it for the desired final pressure and snap it onto your keg
gas
connector. Anyone have such a thing?
Bob
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 05:59:40
From: Steve/Aus
Subject: Re: Update on frozen beer.
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"Bob" <bobnospam@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:ufOdnSPwYcNWPn_ZnZ2dnUVZ_qOdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
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> It would seem like what you need for overcarbonated kegs is an adjustable
> relief valve. Set it for the desired final pressure and snap it onto your
> keg
> gas
> connector. Anyone have such a thing?
>
> Bob
>
Why bother? At the other end you got an adjustable regulator!
Steve W (in Aus)
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 10:39:58
From: Andy McKellar
Subject: Re: Update on frozen beer.
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Steve/Aus wrote:
> "Bob" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ufOdnSPwYcNWPn_ZnZ2dnUVZ_qOdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
>>
>> It would seem like what you need for overcarbonated kegs is an
>> adjustable relief valve. Set it for the desired final pressure and
>> snap it onto your keg gas connector. Anyone have such a thing?
>>
>> Bob
>>
>
> Why bother? At the other end you got an adjustable regulator! Steve W
> (in Aus)
>
>
Because lowering the supply pressure won't help with a temporary
over-pressure. I'm not being sarcastic; you have probably forgotten, or
may not know, that most regulators are protected with a check valve to
prevent being flooded with beer (or whatever) when the supply pressure
drops below that of the output side.
--
-- Andy McKellar
Dallas, TX
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Date: 15 Aug 2006 17:51:46
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Update on frozen beer.
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:52:36 -0000, <rdadams@smart.net > wrote:
> Dick Adams <rdadams@smart.net> wrote:
>
>> A 5-gallon pressurized corney was in a closet for at least
>> 6 weeks. Three days ago I stuck it in the chest freezer.
>> 48 hours later it was frozen and no beer came out. Two days
>> ago I had surgery so I can't lift it. So I unplugged the
>> chest freezer and left it open. The keg is the lone occupant.
>> My basement is now about 77F (25C).
>
> I got the keg out and it has unthawed. The beer had been
> kept at 25 psi for sometime. I was reduced to 10 psi before
> putting it in the freezer.
>
> The head on this beer is awesome. But it's all head. What
> should I do? Drink it myself is a very acceptable option.
> But I'd like to bottle some for my friends.
I think if you leave it alone for a bit the carbonation should settle down.
The rapid freezing/thawing may have monkeyed with the amount of CO2
dissolved in solution and/or PSI in the headspace, causing pouring issues.
I think if you let it settle down some it should return back to the
carbonation/pressure level that it started at before you accidentally
froze it.
John.
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Date: 15 Aug 2006 12:09:59
From: The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty
Subject: Re: Update on frozen beer.
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Dick Adams wrote:
> Dick Adams <rdadams@smart.net> wrote:
>
>
>>A 5-gallon pressurized corney was in a closet for at least
>>6 weeks. Three days ago I stuck it in the chest freezer.
>>48 hours later it was frozen and no beer came out. Two days
>>ago I had surgery so I can't lift it. So I unplugged the
>>chest freezer and left it open. The keg is the lone occupant.
>>My basement is now about 77F (25C).
>
>
> I got the keg out and it has unthawed. The beer had been
> kept at 25 psi for sometime. I was reduced to 10 psi before
> putting it in the freezer.
>
> The head on this beer is awesome. But it's all head. What
> should I do? Drink it myself is a very acceptable option.
> But I'd like to bottle some for my friends.
>
> Dick
If the beer is just overcarbonated you can try a daily venting untill
the pressure has dropped acceptably. This can take a while if there
isn't much head space in the keg. Of course, the foaming can also be
caused by a poorly balanced system, in which case the carbonation level
is correct, but you need to correct your system.
If the problem really is overcarboination, you could also try the
following (I haven't actually tried this for decarbonation, so
applicable cautions apply). Fashion a simple airlock from a gas qd and a
short lengh of tubing connecting the gas out qd to a small vial or jar
filled w/ water bungee corded to the side of the keg. Take the keg out
of the freezer and leave it a room temp for a while, and Co2 should
start coming out of solution and bubbling through the airlock. I have no
idea how long you would need to leave the keg this way, though.
Like I said -- I've used this arrangement before as an airlock on a
10-gallon keg/fermenter, but not for decarbonation. Should work, though.
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