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Date: 18 Dec 2006 11:00:16
From: Gerard Eberlein
Subject: Thin Beer
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I made recently a IIPA of sorts, not guideline but a semi homemade recipe that I took another recipe and modified. The recipe is as follows: 5 Lbs Amber DME 3 Lbs Light DME 3/4 Lbs corn sugar 1 Lb Crystal malt 20L 1/2 Lb Munich 1/2 Lb Toasted Victory Added a total of 1 Lb various hops, 4 Oz which were FWH and the rest were 30 minute or later additions for about 326 IBU. I used Pacman yeast starter. OG was 1.085. Everything went great, fermented vigorously for about 5 days and after 7 days I took a sample/reading. possible FG is 1.022 but am giving it a few more days to make sure. The problem is I tasted the sample and although it was quite tasty it seems really thin. I have made high gravity beers before using 8-10 lbs DME and all of them tasted almost too thick even though they ended at 1.018 or so. Is it possible that 3/4 LB corn sugar would thin a beer like this out so much? I've heard it's possible to add maltodextrin to add body to a beer but is it too late to add it now? If not how much would be used in a 5 gallon batch and how do I go about adding it? Do I boil it like I would my priming sugar or just add it to the beer. Should I add it before I dry hop or right before bottling? Thanx for all help in advance. Gerard
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Date: 18 Dec 2006 11:09:19
From: Gerard Eberlein
Subject: Re: Thin Beer
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Sorry should have noted it was a 5 gallon batch. Gerard
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Date: 18 Dec 2006 21:39:18
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Thin Beer
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On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 11:00:16 -0500, <dormouse@charter.net > wrote: > I made recently a IIPA of sorts, not guideline but a semi homemade recipe > that I took another recipe and modified. The recipe is as follows: > > 5 Lbs Amber DME > 3 Lbs Light DME > 3/4 Lbs corn sugar > > 1 Lb Crystal malt 20L > 1/2 Lb Munich > 1/2 Lb Toasted Victory > > Added a total of 1 Lb various hops, 4 Oz which were FWH and the rest were 30 > minute or later additions for about 326 IBU. I used Pacman yeast starter. OG > was 1.085. Everything went great, fermented vigorously for about 5 days and > after 7 days I took a sample/reading. possible FG is 1.022 but am giving it > a few more days to make sure. The problem is I tasted the sample and > although it was quite tasty it seems really thin. I have made high gravity > beers before using 8-10 lbs DME and all of them tasted almost too thick even > though they ended at 1.018 or so. Is it possible that 3/4 LB corn sugar > would thin a beer like this out so much? I've heard it's possible to add > maltodextrin to add body to a beer but is it too late to add it now? If not > how much would be used in a 5 gallon batch and how do I go about adding it? > Do I boil it like I would my priming sugar or just add it to the beer. > Should I add it before I dry hop or right before bottling? Thanx for all > help in advance. I'd leave it alone for now. One of the characteristics of young beer is a lack of body. Aging will probably get rid of much of the thinness that you're tasting now. BTW, 326 IBU... wow! I love hops, but I've also seen several sources that suggest there is an upper limit to what you can really taste. Generally, I've read that after around 150 IBU or so, you've basically overloaded your taste buds and higher doesn't really make a significant diffference. I'd be curious what a 326 IBU beer tastes like side by side with something around 150 - 200 IBU. Could you tell the difference? John.
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Date: 18 Dec 2006 17:24:38
From: ActiveX
Subject: Re: Thin Beer
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"John 'Shaggy' Kolesar" <spam@shagg.net > wrote in message news:slrneoe2v9.70s.spam@weizen.shagg.net...
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 10:36:02
From: Gerard Eberlein
Subject: Re: Thin Beer
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Actually I just rechecked the recipe and it's actually 332.5 IBU. I think I might try the same recipe nect time with the same additions just scaled down to 150 IBU and see also. I know the tongue can only detect so much IBU but I was also told that additions higher than that, especially late additions will increase flavour and aroma and why I decided to try it. I will post my uneducated opinion on the final results when it's finished. I say uneducated because I'm defineatly not judge material LOL. Gerard
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 10:16:45
From: Gerard Eberlein
Subject: Re: Thin Beer
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"ActiveX" <activex@nospam.charter.net > wrote in message news:RyEhh.363$gF.29@newsfe05.lga... > "John 'Shaggy' Kolesar" <spam@shagg.net> wrote in message > news:slrneoe2v9.70s.spam@weizen.shagg.net... >
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