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Date: 23 Aug 2006 06:18:37
From: JL
Subject: Test results of Stout Faucet with CO2 only
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Thought I would post the results of some tests I did tonight with a stout faucet using CO2 only at 10 psi. For starters, this is a 1040 stout carbonated at about 2.2 volumes (10 psi at 42 F). The stout faucet is the micromatic stout faucet. For those, that aren't familiar with it, the stout faucet has a nozzle (about 2" in length) that attaches to the end of the faucet and tapers to a smaller opening. Inside the nozzle is a restrictor disc with 4 or 5 pin holes and below this a plastic flow straightener. The handle pulls forward, but you can also push back on it like a creamer faucet. The regular faucet is a standard faucet, also micromatic. 1) Regular faucet, 10 psi, pour down the middle of the glass: Nice head in the pint glass but the foam lacked the tight little bubbles and creaminess of a nitro beer. Larger bubbles, "normal" CO2 head. Pleasant head but not thick / dense stuff. 2) Stout faucet, 10 psi, forward pull, down the middle or against the side of the glass (no difference), restrictor disc and flow straightener in (these are two small parts that fit in the nozzle that attaches to the end of the stout faucet): Flow was quick but nearly all foam (e.g., in a couple seconds, the glass was half full of foam but there was only 1/4" of liquid beer in the bottom of the glass). Gloriously creamy foam, however. Head was very tight and dense with a near continuous creamy surface. The foam was thick enough that you could move it around, pile it up in a spot, poke a hole in a spot and the hole remains, etc. This was thick stuff. On the negative side, it took 6 minutes to pour a pint. Even then, I had about 2" of head at the top so it was more like 10-12 oz in a 16 oz glass. No need to push back on the tap handle to use the creamer function of the faucet as it made no difference (nearly all foam in either case). No dramatic "sands" effect but you could see a little bit of that action just less than what you would get with a nitro pour at a bar (or proper homebrew setup). 3) Stout faucet, 10 psi, forward pull, down the middle of the glass, restrictor disc and flow straightener REMOVED: I removed the restrictor disc (a disc with 4 or 5 pinholes in it) and the flow straightener (a white plastic piece under the disc) from the nozzle and replaced the nozzle. I assumed the pour would now be similar to the regular faucet, but I was pleasantly surprised. The pour was quick and the head was closer to test #2 than to test #1. The head was, in fact, much denser than #1. Instead of the near continously creamy head of #2, however, the bubbles were slightly larger. It was easy to see that they were bigger than #2, but it was much tighter and creamier than with the regular faucet in #1 or #4 below. #3 was much closer to #2 than it was to the regular faucet of #1. With the restrictor disc and flow straightener removed, I don't know what to attibute this to except to the taper of the nozzle as well as the taper of the part of the faucet that connects the main vertical part of the faucet to the shank (it tapers as it approaches the vertical part of the faucet). I assume that the narrowing in diameter at two points of the faucet causes CO2 to come out of solution. In addition, pushing back on the tap handle the right amount till the stream turned frothy (about half as far as it could go) allowed me to top off the glass with as much head as I wanted. The general charater of the foam was similar to the forward pull/middle of the glass pour but I could quickly generate as much head as I wanted. The nozzle keeps the pour, whether frothy or not, going straight down in a continuous stream. This is not the case with #4 where the faucet kind of spits a bit when I restricted it by closing it partially during the pour. It is a bit messy especially when the glass is filled close to the top. 4) Regular faucet, 10 psi, down the middle of the glass, closing the faucet partially at end of pour: This generated more head than #1 but the head was of the same general consistency as in #1 -- bigger, gauzy medium size bubbles on a head that was not particularly tight. In addition, closing the faucet off partially caused it to kind of spits a bit when the flow was restricted during the pour and it could be a bit messy especially when the glass is filled to the top. The spitting is not too big of a problem and doesn't bother me, but I'm happier with the result in #3 which had a better head with a clean, easy to control pour. My own conclusion is that test #3 (stout faucet with restrictor disc and flow straightener removed) gives quite a nice effect for not having a nitro setup. There is no need to change the CO2 pressure for serving (and then readjust after serving). I would agree with the statement that much of the nitro effect (50-75%) can be achieved with a CO2 only setup and a stout faucet. Since I plan to eventually add a nitro/CO2 setup, the stout faucet is a good addition. If you have no plan to install a nitro set up, it would be important to check out a creamer faucet too. I have never used a creamer faucet but it is imagined that this might provide similar effect to #3, but since its less than half the cost of a stout faucet, it could be a better buy (if there is no long-term plan to go nitro/CO2). Additional questions: Can you pour quick with a nitro set up (faster than my 6 minute pint)? Why is there nearly all foam with CO2 only when using the restrictor disc? At 30-35 psi, doesn't beer gas have about 8-9 psi of CO2? Is this so much lower than my 10 psi to totally alter how much foam is generated when pouring? Why would pushing the beer through the restrictor plate at higher pressure keep more CO2 in solution?
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Date: 23 Aug 2006 15:30:36
From: Adam Preble
Subject: Re: Test results of Stout Faucet with CO2 only
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Thanks for the post. I was curious how this thing really looks up close. When you talk about restrictor plates, I think of cappuccino frothers. Is it the same kind of affair. Do you think it would be easy to throw together the tap you used that seemed to do the best with CO2? I just started kegging and haven't even served from a keg yet. On top of that, I'm the only one in the household that has it in for stouts at all. I don't see myself getting nitrogen soon, but I've warmed up to the idea of having the good pour without it.
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 07:08:29
From: JL
Subject: Re: Test results of Stout Faucet with CO2 only
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Adam, I don't know what a cappuccino frother looks like, but the restrictor disc is stainless and about 8 mm diameter. There are 5 very tiny holes (~0.4 mm diameter) in it through which all of the beer must pass. To create the same effect as the tapered nozzle without the restrictor plate, maybe you could take a very small piece of 3/8 racking tube and insert it into the end of the faucet. Then stick a small piece of the next size down hose into that. and maybe one more time to make a cheap tapering nozzle. No idea if this would give same effect but it would be cheap to try and would be easy to attach and remove. And another comment only for the stout faucet... For what its worth, the stainless replacement spout available from kegworks will fill the stout faucet from micromatic. The micromatic stout fauce originally comes with a black plastic spout. With a black wooden pub handle (I had already), the black plastic spout is quite attractive (its a nice black / stainless / black look). However, I wanted all stainless so I ordered the part from kegworks. They were pretty sure it would fit and said I could send it back if it didn't, but the threads were a perfect fit and it connected up seamlessly. Although this stainless nozzle is very similar in size and id, I notice that more head is generated with this nozzle than with the plastic nozzle. I guess there are some differences on the interior that cause more turbulence and more CO2 release. Both are acceptable however. With the black nozzle I push back on the tap at the end to top it off with a little more head. With the stainless nozzle, I have to pause for about 30 seconds midway through the poor and the head is just right without pushing back on the tap handle. I'm sure I'll switch back and forth from time to time just to change the look. "Adam Preble" <rockobonaparte@hotmail.com > wrote in message news:ww_Gg.26589$ph.16887@tornado.texas.rr.com... > Thanks for the post. I was curious how this thing really looks up close. > When you talk about restrictor plates, I think of cappuccino frothers. Is > it the same kind of affair. > > Do you think it would be easy to throw together the tap you used that > seemed to do the best with CO2? > > I just started kegging and haven't even served from a keg yet. On top of > that, I'm the only one in the household that has it in for stouts at all. > I don't see myself getting nitrogen soon, but I've warmed up to the idea > of having the good pour without it.
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