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Date: 06 Dec 2006 18:37:51
From: Bill Velek
Subject: Taking a rest while brewing. Ahhhhhhhhh.
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My wife thinks I'm out of my mind. This is the fourth time now that I'm
doing double batches. It started when I did a couple of partigyles, and
then, because I was bottling two batches -- leaving me with two empty
carboys that would be fresh-cleaned -- it just seemed logical to
continue. Heck, the kitchen is messed up anyway, and I have all the
equipment out, and the mashtun etc is already 'dirty', so what the heck.
;-)
Am bottling a Brown Ale and a Sierra Nevada clone. Am brewing my own
recipe for an Irish Red (playing with my new program -- BeerToolsPro),
and ... heck, I've had a few EXCELLENT home brews, so I'm not sure what
this next batch will be. :-)
Now I've got to get back to work ... errr, ... I mean 'fun'. :-)
Cheers.
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Date: 07 Dec 2006 02:00:56
From:
Subject: Re: Taking a rest while brewing. Ahhhhhhhhh.
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Bill Velek <billvelek@alltel.net > wrote:
: My wife thinks I'm out of my mind. This is the fourth time now that I'm
: doing double batches. It started when I did a couple of partigyles, and
: then, because I was bottling two batches -- leaving me with two empty
: carboys that would be fresh-cleaned -- it just seemed logical to
: continue. Heck, the kitchen is messed up anyway, and I have all the
: equipment out, and the mashtun etc is already 'dirty', so what the heck.
: ;-)
: Am bottling a Brown Ale and a Sierra Nevada clone. Am brewing my own
: recipe for an Irish Red (playing with my new program -- BeerToolsPro),
: and ... heck, I've had a few EXCELLENT home brews, so I'm not sure what
: this next batch will be. :-)
: Now I've got to get back to work ... errr, ... I mean 'fun'. :-)
I have taken to doing two batches "at once." Generally, the night before I do the first mash/sparge and collect the wort
in gallon containers. The second day, I start the boil after I start the mash of the second batch. It allows for a significant
amount of overlap. I figure it takes me about 6 hours total for one 5-gallon all-grain batch, or about 8 hours for two.
-Cory
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Date: 07 Dec 2006 13:14:13
From: John Bleichert
Subject: Re: Taking a rest while brewing. Ahhhhhhhhh.
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Bill Velek <billvelek@alltel.net > wrote:
> My wife thinks I'm out of my mind. This is the fourth time now that I'm
> doing double batches. It started when I did a couple of partigyles, and
> then, because I was bottling two batches -- leaving me with two empty
> carboys that would be fresh-cleaned -- it just seemed logical to
> continue. Heck, the kitchen is messed up anyway, and I have all the
> equipment out, and the mashtun etc is already 'dirty', so what the heck.
> ;-)
> Am bottling a Brown Ale and a Sierra Nevada clone. Am brewing my own
> recipe for an Irish Red (playing with my new program -- BeerToolsPro),
> and ... heck, I've had a few EXCELLENT home brews, so I'm not sure what
> this next batch will be. :-)
>
> Now I've got to get back to work ... errr, ... I mean 'fun'. :-)
>
> Cheers.
Michele and I did our first double batch last Saturday. Mashed the nut
brown ale, then while it was in the kettle, mashed a pale ale. By the
time the nut brown was chilled and racked the pale ale wort was ready
to go. Worked great. All the equipment is already out. I think it only
added 90 minutes to our brew day.
Since mashing and boiling take about the same amount of time
(including setup and breakdown) overlapping batches works well. We're
hooked.
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John Bleichert syborg@earthlink.net
The heat from below can burn your eyes out!!
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Date: 08 Dec 2006 00:18:14
From: Bill Velek
Subject: Re: Taking a rest while brewing. Ahhhhhhhhh.
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John Bleichert wrote:
snip
> Since mashing and boiling take about the same amount of time
> (including setup and breakdown) overlapping batches works well. We're
> hooked.
Yes, it makes sense. What has tired me out is that when you do a double
batch and then a couple of weeks later do another double batch, you
end up bottling a double batch while brewing a double batch. That's a
hell of a lot of bottles to clean, sanitize, fill, and cap. On the
other hand, you only need to do it half as often. Anyway, after so much
bottling, I told my son that I am definitely going to have to get into
kegging. Plus, I think I need to get a bigger kettle so that I can do
10 gallon batches. Yes; that's the ticket. Double batches of 10
gallons each, and put them into kegs. :-)
Cheers.
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Date: 08 Dec 2006 08:26:41
From: Rick Haskin
Subject: Re: Taking a rest while brewing. Ahhhhhhhhh.
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Bill Velek wrote:
> John Bleichert wrote:
>
> snip
>
>> Since mashing and boiling take about the same amount of time
>> (including setup and breakdown) overlapping batches works well. We're
>> hooked.
>
>
> Yes, it makes sense. What has tired me out is that when you do a double
> batch and then a couple of weeks later do another double batch, you
> end up bottling a double batch while brewing a double batch. That's a
> hell of a lot of bottles to clean, sanitize, fill, and cap. On the
> other hand, you only need to do it half as often. Anyway, after so much
> bottling, I told my son that I am definitely going to have to get into
> kegging. Plus, I think I need to get a bigger kettle so that I can do
> 10 gallon batches. Yes; that's the ticket. Double batches of 10
> gallons each, and put them into kegs. :-)
>
> Cheers.
Bottling isn't bad at all if you get some one liter bottles :)
I bought serveral cases of 1 liter EZ-Cap bottles. I rinse them well
after each use and then run them through the rinse and heat cycle on my
dishwasher before use. The heat sanitizes them well enough.
-Rick
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Date: 08 Dec 2006 14:05:59
From: John Bleichert
Subject: Re: Taking a rest while brewing. Ahhhhhhhhh.
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Bill Velek <billvelek@alltel.net > wrote:
> John Bleichert wrote:
>
> snip
>
>> Since mashing and boiling take about the same amount of time
>> (including setup and breakdown) overlapping batches works well. We're
>> hooked.
>
> Yes, it makes sense. What has tired me out is that when you do a double
> batch and then a couple of weeks later do another double batch, you
> end up bottling a double batch while brewing a double batch. That's a
> hell of a lot of bottles to clean, sanitize, fill, and cap. On the
> other hand, you only need to do it half as often. Anyway, after so much
> bottling, I told my son that I am definitely going to have to get into
> kegging. Plus, I think I need to get a bigger kettle so that I can do
> 10 gallon batches. Yes; that's the ticket. Double batches of 10
> gallons each, and put them into kegs. :-)
>
> Cheers.
Yeah, bottling them all is going to be a beotch. With 2 people it's
not so bad though. My cleaning process (bottle cleaning) is pretty
good so it's not too difficult, especially when they're all or mostly
all re-used bottles.
I haven't sanitized a bottle since my very first batch. I clean them
well right before I use them. I know, I know, but no problems so far.
I am thinking of picking up one keg at my LHBS and a CO2 tank and
checking it out. It will be quite a while before I move to kegging
completely. Don't have the room for it.
Dual 10-gallon batches. Wow. Evil. 4 primaries. Supply might actually
catch up to demand that way. I'll run it by the boss.
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John Bleichert syborg@earthlink.net
The heat from below can burn your eyes out!!
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Date: 09 Dec 2006 09:22:46
From: MarkMc
Subject: Re: Taking a rest while brewing. Ahhhhhhhhh.
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Hi Bill
> Anyway, after so much
> bottling, I told my son that I am definitely going to have to get into
> kegging. Plus, I think I need to get a bigger kettle so that I can do
> 10 gallon batches. Yes; that's the ticket. Double batches of 10
> gallons each, and put them into kegs. :-)
When I got permission from SWMBO (She Who Must Be Obeyed) to build a
dedicated brewery, I designed it to give 40L (10 US gallons) in to
secondary - thats exactly to cornie kegs worth!
At the same time, I moved from bottling to cornie kegs, and I don't
regret it one little bit. I have two pub taps in the brewery, and now
I just walk up and draw off a pint straight from the keg - perfect.
I do occasionally want to give out beers to family, friends, colleagues
and neighbours, so I haven't thrown my bottling gear away. In fact
some beers, like barley wine I'll probably bottle only. I just got the
Blichmann beer gun, but I'm yet to try it out. This allows you to
bottle straight from the keg which is very handy for running off
samples for say a competition or to give to a visiting friend on the
spur of the moment. It's also a lot easier to use than a
counter-pressure bottle filler.
btw, you can see my tiny dedicated "2 cornie" (or should that be corny?
:) brewery here:- http://www.photobox.co.uk/album/4058924
Cheers,
Mark
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