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Date: 02 Oct 2006 16:58:38
From: Eric Scantlebury
Subject: Shipping yeast
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Hello All,
I'm thinking about ordering an extract kit from either B3 or Northern Brewer
as my "local" HBS is a two hour drive. How long will the wyeast activator
packs survive? When people order these kits do they have to overnight them
(And the charges for that are so high it would be worth even a 5 hour road
trip)?
TIA
Eric
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Date: 02 Oct 2006 19:58:48
From: Lefty Skywalker
Subject: Re: Shipping yeast
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Eric Scantlebury wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I'm thinking about ordering an extract kit from either B3 or Northern Brewer
> as my "local" HBS is a two hour drive. How long will the wyeast activator
> packs survive? When people order these kits do they have to overnight them
> (And the charges for that are so high it would be worth even a 5 hour road
> trip)?
I'm in the CA desert, had smack packs shipped from Midwest in MN. In
the height of summer. They didn't swell too well but did okay once in a
starter.
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Date: 02 Oct 2006 22:09:04
From: Al Fresco
Subject: Re: Shipping yeast
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I never use those ice pack things the HBSs offer. Think about it. The
yeast is packed at 45 degrees, then they put it next to something at
zero degrees, then the zero-degree thing melts in four hours and you get
several days of eighty or a hundred degrees, and then you put it in your
refrigerator.
Seems much better to put it in the package and let it slowly warm up to
the package's temperature and then have comparatively minor temperature
swings on the trip to your door.
Eric Scantlebury wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I'm thinking about ordering an extract kit from either B3 or Northern Brewer
> as my "local" HBS is a two hour drive. How long will the wyeast activator
> packs survive? When people order these kits do they have to overnight them
> (And the charges for that are so high it would be worth even a 5 hour road
> trip)?
>
> TIA
> Eric
>
>
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Date: 02 Oct 2006 15:41:23
From: alebrewer
Subject: Re: Shipping yeast
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Eric Scantlebury wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I'm thinking about ordering an extract kit from either B3 or Northern Brewer
> as my "local" HBS is a two hour drive. How long will the wyeast activator
> packs survive? When people order these kits do they have to overnight them
> (And the charges for that are so high it would be worth even a 5 hour road
> trip)?
>
> TIA
> Eric
You don't mention what type of "kit" you are going to order, but just
to think "outside the box", why not consider using a dry yeast?
You don't have to worry about it getting "too hot" druing shipment,
You don't have to worry about making a starter,
You don't have to worry about aerating enough.
Just pitch it and go.
The quality of the beer you make is not going to be improved because
you use a liquid yeast.
The only thing a liquid yeast does for you is it lets you make use
strains that aren't available dry. If you are going to make a Brittish
or American ale, just use a good neutral dry yeast and you remove
several potential problems from the process. KISS
ab
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Date: 02 Oct 2006 21:13:20
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Shipping yeast
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On Mon, 2 2006 16:58:38 -0400, <test@test.com > wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I'm thinking about ordering an extract kit from either B3 or Northern Brewer
> as my "local" HBS is a two hour drive. How long will the wyeast activator
> packs survive? When people order these kits do they have to overnight them
> (And the charges for that are so high it would be worth even a 5 hour road
> trip)?
B3 and Northern Brewer should be able to tell you. In generall though,
lots of people order liquid yeast online. It's best to order it from a place
that is relatively close to you though. IOW, if you're on the other side
of the country from an online retailer, you probably wouldn't want to get
your yeast from them.
The activator packs should survive alright, but it really depends on the
conditions. Temperature more than anything else. A cross country shipment
in the middle of the summer is going to be a lot harder on the yeast than
ordering a shipment one state away during the middle of winter.
I doubt you have to order them overnight, standard UPS ground should be fine.
What you may want to do, and B3 or Northern Brewer can give you advice, would
be to order the yeast boxed up with an ice pack. Whether that's necessary
probably depends on distance/weather.
What part of the country are you in? Maybe someone can recommend a good
online store that is relatively close to you.
John.
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Date: 02 Oct 2006 17:17:27
From: Eric Scantlebury
Subject: Re: Shipping yeast
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"John 'Shaggy' Kolesar" <spam@shagg.net > wrote in message
news:slrnei30ec.r2b.spam@weizen.shagg.net...
> What part of the country are you in? Maybe someone can recommend a good
> online store that is relatively close to you.
Thanks for the response. I'm in Rhode Island.
Eric
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Date: 02 Oct 2006 16:09:25
From: The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty
Subject: Re: Shipping yeast
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Eric Scantlebury wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I'm thinking about ordering an extract kit from either B3 or Northern Brewer
> as my "local" HBS is a two hour drive. How long will the wyeast activator
> packs survive? When people order these kits do they have to overnight them
> (And the charges for that are so high it would be worth even a 5 hour road
> trip)?
>
Activator packs generally travel pretty well. I've had less luck with WL
tubes, which I think can get a significant bite taken out of their
viability when shipped during the hotter months -- which doesn't really
matter when you make a starter anyway.
There should be no need to overnight anything in either case -- but when
using liquid yeast, always make a starter regardless of pitchability claims.
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Date: 03 Oct 2006 04:26:41
From: Brew Man
Subject: Re: Shipping yeast
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I've had good experience with having liquid yeast shipped to me. I
ordered supplies, including a couple of smack packs, this summer from
Northern Brewer. They packed the liquid yeast in with an ice pack that
I'm sure melted by the end of the first day out of their store.
Delivery to my house in NJ took 4 days. Being that I was concerned
that the liquid yeast did not survive the 1,500 mile trip in the middle
of the summer, I had a packet of dry yeast ready just in case. Anyway,
I activated the smack pack and in a few hours it expanded and I made my
starter. No problems. With the summer heat behind us (at least from
MN to NJ), I would not be too concerned about the liquid yeast
surviving the trip.
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