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Date: 27 Nov 2006 01:33:26
From: Wayne
Subject: Safale S-04
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Anyone have any experience with this ale yeast? It's the only
one available locally for me and thought I'd give it a shot
instead of the tiny 5gm pack that comes with the kit. A quick
search tells me it's a fast fermenter with high attenuation
and flocculation. I pitched about 13:00 hours on Saturday
and when I checked it Sunday morning at 07:00 it was merrily
bubbling away and continued at a lively pace throughout the
day. This morning (Monday) when I checked it the water level
in the air-lock was beginning to equalise. Is that about
right for this yeast? Blurb on the net says 2 to 3 days for
full fermentation.
Kit was a Black Rock Miner's Stout with 1Kg medium spraymalt.
Cheers
Wayne
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Date: 27 Nov 2006 04:48:08
From: Andy Davison
Subject: Re: Safale S-04
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On Monday 27 November 2006 01:33, Wayne wrote:
> I pitched about 13:00 hours on Saturday
> and when I checked it Sunday morning at 07:00 it was merrily
> bubbling away and continued at a lively pace throughout the
> day. This morning (Monday) when I checked it the water level
> in the air-lock was beginning to equalise. Is that about
> right for this yeast? Blurb on the net says 2 to 3 days for
> full fermentation.
I don't bother with airlocks so I can't comment on that but I tend to give
all beers 4 days primary. S04 is a good yeast but needs quite a bit of
aeration. You may find it throws quite a bit of diacetyl otherwise. You can
minimise this by lowering the temp to 15C for the last 24 hours or so.
Obviously, don't aerate now that it's been fermenting for a few days.
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Andy Davison
andy [at] oiyou [dot] ukfsn [dot] org
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Date: 27 Nov 2006 05:16:08
From: Wayne
Subject: Re: Safale S-04
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On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 04:48:08 +0000, Andy Davison wrote:
> I don't bother with airlocks so I can't comment on that but I tend to give
> all beers 4 days primary. S04 is a good yeast but needs quite a bit of
> aeration. You may find it throws quite a bit of diacetyl otherwise. You
> can minimise this by lowering the temp to 15C for the last 24 hours or so.
> Obviously, don't aerate now that it's been fermenting for a few days.
I had to give that sucker a good old stirring to dissolve the spraymalt
and when topping up the bucket with cold water I splashed it all down
the sides. Methinks it was quite aerated :-)
Room temperature was (I guess) 10 to 22 degrees Celsius, depending on
time of day and whether I had the heater on and bucket was wrapped
with a quilted 'futon under-mat' to keep it warm at night. I'll leave
it in the primary to settle out until next Sunday then keg.
Cheers
Wayne
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Date: 27 Nov 2006 05:03:47
From: Wayne
Subject: Re: Safale S-04
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On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 21:00:28 -0600, hankus wrote:
> Excellent like all the 11 gram dry yeasts...I prefer dry yeast unless I am
> seeking a style not available in dry yeasrt...my favorite is Nottingham
>
Thanks. Do you have the same experience regarding speed?
It was quite lively, not crazy, but there were water bubbles
forming at the top of the air-lock at one point and it seems
a small amount of the water may have been forced out.
Cheers
Wayne
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Date: 26 Nov 2006 21:00:28
From: hankus
Subject: Re: Safale S-04
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Excellent like all the 11 gram dry yeasts...I prefer dry yeast unless I am
seeking a style not available in dry yeasrt...my favorite is Nottingham
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Thanks
Hank
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Date: 27 Nov 2006 14:04:40
From: Wayne
Subject: Re: Safale S-04
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On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 08:50:54 +0000, KGB wrote:
>>Anyone have any experience with this ale yeast? It's the only one
>>available locally for me and thought I'd give it a shot instead of the
>>tiny 5gm pack that comes with the kit.
>
> Hi
>
> My local (commercial) prize-winning microbrewery uses it a lot and in
> fact, if I run out of yeast I generally scrounge some Safale-04 from them.
>
> When I started home-brewing the brewer at the above brewpub thoroughly
> recommended safale-04 - and his beers regularly win prizes at beer
> festivals.
>
> One reason he uses it (apart from it being decent yeast) is that it is a
> fast fermentation, which he needs for commercial brewing - it doesn't
> tie-up his fermenter for too long.
Well, if it's good enough for a commercial brewery then it's good enough
for a noob like me :-) Looks like my only choice is a good choice. Can't
wait to see what the brew comes out like, but that's for the drinking
(festive) season! :-)
Thanks for the feedback!
Wayne
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Date: 27 Nov 2006 08:50:54
From: KGB (KGB)
Subject: Re: Safale S-04
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On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 01:33:26 +0000 (UTC), Wayne <rondonjin@yahoo.com >
wrote:
>Anyone have any experience with this ale yeast? It's the only
>one available locally for me and thought I'd give it a shot
>instead of the tiny 5gm pack that comes with the kit.
Hi
My local (commercial) prize-winning microbrewery uses it a lot and in
fact, if I run out of yeast I generally scrounge some Safale-04 from
them.
When I started home-brewing the brewer at the above brewpub thoroughly
recommended safale-04 - and his beers regularly win prizes at beer
festivals.
One reason he uses it (apart from it being decent yeast) is that it is
a fast fermentation, which he needs for commercial brewing - it
doesn't tie-up his fermenter for too long.
Regards
KGB
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 04:31:10
From: Wayne
Subject: Re: Safale S-04
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On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 23:16:03 -0500, Gwidman wrote:
> Wayne,
>
> Safeale S-04 is dry Wyeast 1099 Whitbread. A most excellent and forgiving
> yeast. Good for all English ales, brown up to IPA, in my personal
> experience. I use it a lot. Dry yeast gives same results as liquid in
> the beers I've made.
>
> Gary
>
Gary,
Thanks. I've read all the info I could find about it but nothing
beats feedback from 'real people' who actually use it rather than
the infomercials that just want to sell you stuff :-) I can't wait
to see how my second brew turns out, especially with the Safale.
Cheers
Wayne
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Date: 27 Nov 2006 23:24:21
From: Wayne
Subject: Re: Safale S-04
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On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:33:40 -0800, Bob F wrote:
>> Anyone have any experience with this ale yeast? It's the only one
>> available locally for me and thought I'd give it a shot instead of the
>> tiny 5gm pack that comes with the kit.
>
> Have you asked your local supplier to stock something additional. My LHBS
> got in the US 56 within days after I asked about it.
My 'local' supplier is about an hour away by bus and train and is
really a crafts and hobby store that has a small corner for homebrew.
They used to get their (limited) stock from a place in Kobe but I'm not
sure if that has changed. Anyway, the range of kit and ingredients
here is very limited as homebrewing is fairly new and still illegal.
I could do mail order but lack a Japanese credit card so would have
to rely on a third-party to order for me. To show you what things
are like, this store has a 'good' selection!
http://www.bcjkobe.com/english/index.htm
Wayne
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Date: 27 Nov 2006 23:16:03
From: Gwidman
Subject: Re: Safale S-04
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"Wayne" <rondonjin@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:ekfs35$djq$3@registered.motzarella.org...
> On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:33:40 -0800, Bob F wrote:
>
>>> Anyone have any experience with this ale yeast? It's the only one
>>> available locally for me and thought I'd give it a shot instead of the
>>> tiny 5gm pack that comes with the kit.
>>
>> Have you asked your local supplier to stock something additional. My LHBS
>> got in the US 56 within days after I asked about it.
>
> My 'local' supplier is about an hour away by bus and train and is
> really a crafts and hobby store that has a small corner for homebrew.
> They used to get their (limited) stock from a place in Kobe but I'm not
> sure if that has changed. Anyway, the range of kit and ingredients
> here is very limited as homebrewing is fairly new and still illegal.
> I could do mail order but lack a Japanese credit card so would have
> to rely on a third-party to order for me. To show you what things
> are like, this store has a 'good' selection!
>
> http://www.bcjkobe.com/english/index.htm
>
> Wayne
> --
> Registered Linux user #375994
> http://www.geocities.jp/rondonko/
Wayne,
Safeale S-04 is dry Wyeast 1099 Whitbread. A most excellent and forgiving
yeast. Good for all English ales, brown up to IPA, in my personal
experience. I use it a lot. Dry yeast gives same results as liquid in the
beers I've made.
Gary
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Date: 27 Nov 2006 13:33:40
From: Bob F
Subject: Re: Safale S-04
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"Wayne" <rondonjin@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:ekdf96$so6$3@registered.motzarella.org...
> Anyone have any experience with this ale yeast? It's the only
> one available locally for me and thought I'd give it a shot
> instead of the tiny 5gm pack that comes with the kit.
Have you asked your local supplier to stock something
additional. My LHBS got in the US 56 within days after
I asked about it.
Bob
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