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Date: 22 Oct 2006 04:52:07
From: Adam Preble
Subject: Redneck Belgian Tripel has left the primary
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Here is an update on the steam-crimped feed barley I used in a batch
recently. The batch was mashed with amylase enzyme, then with a small
amount of 6-row/handful of special B at 158F to try to get more sugar
out of it. The starch test had come out clean, and I produced a batch
from the grain after some considerable boiling down. OG was 90 points
at 60F.
I pitched a White Labs special Belgian Yeast blend (WLP575), and it did
ferment. The weather was beginning to turn here, so I got to stick it
outside a few evenings and ferment at a more modest temperature. At
this time, I can hit a good lager temp easily, but not cooler ale temps.
I think this was important. Today, I racked it to the secondary.
At first glance, there looked like a film on top of the beer, but it
tasted and smelled fine. It was astonishing how much the odor and
flavor followed the tripels and saisons I've had--not many but they were
pretty consistent. The final gravity was 26 points at 74F. I don't
think I have a full 5 gallons, so I might dilute especially since the
beer looks a tad too dark.
So far I'm impressed with the results. My biggest fear isn't if the
feed barley would do something with me, but if it would clarify at all.
I did a protein rest, but who knows what this barley really is like.
There was a lot of junk in the beer so I expect it'll take me awhile to
figure it out. I think I'll have it rest at 40F for about a month
before considering clarifying agents.
I'll also see if that film was really a problem if it tastes like
buttholes in a month. As it stands, I don't plan to muck around with
the beer much more than I have already by using feedbarley. My goal is
to make it a reasonable beer given the grist and mash I had followed.
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Date: 21 Oct 2006 22:41:24
From:
Subject: Re: Redneck Belgian Tripel has left the primary
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No Special B in a Tripple! Dubble, yes. Belgian Strong Dark, yes.
Tripple, no. If you have Special B in it I wouldn't call it a Tripple,
but I bet it's still a good beer. I seem to be one of the minority
that LIKES Special B. :)
As to the film, I'm betting it's hop oils if you added any flavor or
aroma hops to the brew. I seem to get that when I add those types of
hops, but it disappears as the beer ages. I guess it goes into
suspension disolved in the alcohol or something.
Bryan
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Date: 22 Oct 2006 05:52:45
From: Adam Preble
Subject: Re: Redneck Belgian Tripel has left the primary
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yournotauser@gmail.com wrote:
> No Special B in a Tripple! Dubble, yes. Belgian Strong Dark, yes.
> Tripple, no. If you have Special B in it I wouldn't call it a Tripple,
> but I bet it's still a good beer. I seem to be one of the minority
> that LIKES Special B. :)
It was a teeeny weeeny bit. I was afraid I'd get too light a color from
the feed grains. Remember that this beer wasn't done with a pale malt,
so I had to pull color from somewhere. I have some roasted malt that
would be too volatile too add, in color and flavor. I think I was right
that it was too light, but now it's too dark since it's concentrated. A
dilution should make it just right.
I can't taste the impact of the grain in it. I think I used 3 ounces,
and it was surrounded by a huge pile of feed barley.
> As to the film, I'm betting it's hop oils if you added any flavor or
> aroma hops to the brew. I seem to get that when I add those types of
> hops, but it disappears as the beer ages. I guess it goes into
> suspension disolved in the alcohol or something.
Yes--I had flavor and aroma hops. They were Sladek Saaz hop pellets, if
that means anything. There was an ounce at 15 minutes and an ounce at 5
minutes.
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Date: 24 Oct 2006 16:21:46
From: Derric
Subject: Re: Redneck Belgian Tripel has left the primary
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>> As to the film, I'm betting it's hop oils if you added any flavor or
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> Yes--I had flavor and aroma hops. They were Sladek Saaz hop pellets, if
> that means anything. ...
I've definitely had an "oil" type film on lagers that were all Saaz
hops. It never hurt anything and eventually either went away or was
left behind when racked.
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Date: 23 Oct 2006 07:47:33
From: Randal
Subject: Re: Redneck Belgian Tripel has left the primary
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yournotauser@gmail.com wrote:
> No Special B in a Tripple! Dubble, yes. Belgian Strong Dark, yes.
> Tripple, no. If you have Special B in it I wouldn't call it a Tripple,
> but I bet it's still a good beer. I seem to be one of the minority
> that LIKES Special B. :)
>
This is not quite true - historically tripels were not judged on color
but on strength. Granted, the majority are golden but you can still
find the odd dark tripel in Belgium.
_Randal
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Date: 23 Oct 2006 19:24:45
From: Adam Preble
Subject: Re: Redneck Belgian Tripel has left the primary
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Randal wrote:
> This is not quite true - historically tripels were not judged on color
> but on strength. Granted, the majority are golden but you can still
> find the odd dark tripel in Belgium.
I was about to say I was going by the BJCP but then I realized I hadn't
lookded up for that style. I see in the full guide that a gold color is
fair game. What does worry me is that my OG and FG's are both a little
high. So I am probably going to dilute anyways.
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