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Date: 11 Oct 2006 09:42:23
From: Sheheryar
Subject: Plastic gas tube/poppet question
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Hi
I disassembled my ball lock keg last night and noticed a plastic gas
tube. Is this common. My other one has a steel one and all I have
seen online are steel tubes under the gas post. Also,it was really
snug. On another note, I took apart the posts and found a little tiny
thingy below the poppet? Does one need any thing between the poppet
and the gas or liquid tube entrance? Any insight would be appreciated
since I am totally new to corny kegging. Thanks.
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Date: 11 Oct 2006 17:17:53
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Plastic gas tube/poppet question
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On 11 2006 09:42:23 -0700, <sheheryarhasnain@hotmail.com > wrote:
> Hi
> I disassembled my ball lock keg last night and noticed a plastic gas
> tube. Is this common. My other one has a steel one and all I have
> seen online are steel tubes under the gas post. Also,it was really
> snug. On another note, I took apart the posts and found a little tiny
> thingy below the poppet? Does one need any thing between the poppet
> and the gas or liquid tube entrance? Any insight would be appreciated
> since I am totally new to corny kegging. Thanks.
I've got 20+ kegs and they all have steel tubes. However, I have heard of
plastic ones before. It might depend on the specific keg manufacturer,
or maybe the plastic ones are sold as replacements?
Regarding the post, it should consist of a little piston like thing with
a small rubber gasket on the end. It sits on a spring and has a tripod
shaped metal base. Other than that I've never heard of anything else
being in the post. There is generally an oring that goes underneath the
top lip of the tube where it rests against the threads that the post
screws on to. Did you end up with a left over part that you don't know
where it goes, or did you find something in there that you didn't expect?
John.
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Date: 11 Oct 2006 19:13:35
From: Warren Place
Subject: Re: Plastic gas tube/poppet question
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On Wed, 11 2006, davemchine@gmail.com wrote:
> I also have a few kegs with the plastic tube. I'm going to replace
> them.
>
> Dave
I've heard that replacing them can be difficult as the metal and plastic
tubes to not fit the same size diptube hole. If you look carefully at the
two types of tubes, you might find they have different shapes.
Warren Place
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 11:40:23
From: William Benz Jr
Subject: Re: Plastic gas tube/poppet question
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"Warren Place" <wrplace@mailbox.ucdavis.edu > wrote in message
news:Pine.GSO.4.58.0610111911540.9932@vidi.ucdavis.edu...
> On Wed, 11 2006, davemchine@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > I also have a few kegs with the plastic tube. I'm going to replace
> > them.
> >
> > Dave
>
> I've heard that replacing them can be difficult as the metal and plastic
> tubes to not fit the same size diptube hole. If you look carefully at the
> two types of tubes, you might find they have different shapes.
> Warren Place
On the kegs I have with plastic gas in tubes, the tubes are 1/4" at the top
and the bottom end has a smaller diameter. I have drilled them out to 1/4"
and replaced them. Luckily I scavenged the metal tubes out of a bunch of
coke kegs. They were all split at the seam from freezing. They must have
had water in them at the time as there was no soda residue inside.
Just make sure you know what you are doing with a drill before attempting
this as you could easily ruin your keg.
Bill
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Date: 11 Oct 2006 12:26:33
From: Sheheryar
Subject: Re: Plastic gas tube/poppet question
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Actually more importantly, does one need this disk thing? IT appears
that the spring should maintain the seal without any added item in the
post.
Sheheryar wrote:
> Hi
> It was a disc but with no hole in it. Are there any websites with a
> photo of what should be in the post below the tripodlegs of the poppet?
> Sheheryar
>
> Denny Conn wrote:
> > Sheheryar wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi
> > > I disassembled my ball lock keg last night and noticed a plastic gas
> > > tube. Is this common. My other one has a steel one and all I have
> > > seen online are steel tubes under the gas post. Also,it was really
> > > snug. On another note, I took apart the posts and found a little tiny
> > > thingy below the poppet? Does one need any thing between the poppet
> > > and the gas or liquid tube entrance? Any insight would be appreciated
> > > since I am totally new to corny kegging. Thanks.
> >
> > It's not common, buty it's not unusal either. Probably about 1/4 of my
> > 25 kegs have those. Was the thing you found under the poppet like a
> > nylon disc with a hole in the middle?
> >
> > ----------->Denny
> > --
> > Life begins at 60...1.060, that is.
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Date: 11 Oct 2006 12:18:35
From: Sheheryar
Subject: Re: Plastic gas tube/poppet question
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Hi
It was a disc but with no hole in it. Are there any websites with a
photo of what should be in the post below the tripodlegs of the poppet?
Sheheryar
Denny Conn wrote:
> Sheheryar wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> > I disassembled my ball lock keg last night and noticed a plastic gas
> > tube. Is this common. My other one has a steel one and all I have
> > seen online are steel tubes under the gas post. Also,it was really
> > snug. On another note, I took apart the posts and found a little tiny
> > thingy below the poppet? Does one need any thing between the poppet
> > and the gas or liquid tube entrance? Any insight would be appreciated
> > since I am totally new to corny kegging. Thanks.
>
> It's not common, buty it's not unusal either. Probably about 1/4 of my
> 25 kegs have those. Was the thing you found under the poppet like a
> nylon disc with a hole in the middle?
>
> ----------->Denny
> --
> Life begins at 60...1.060, that is.
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Date: 11 Oct 2006 22:58:21
From: Scott Sellers
Subject: Re: Plastic gas tube/poppet question
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Sheheryar <sheheryarhasnain@hotmail.com >:
>Hi
>It was a disc but with no hole in it. Are there any websites
>with a photo of what should be in the post below the tripodlegs
>of the poppet? Sheheryar
As far as I know, there shouldn't be anything between the top of
the dip tube and the bottom of the poppet. The three legs stand
on top of the dip tube, and are pushed up into the post as it is
tightened.
Regarding the plastic diptubes, I just traced a CO2 leak to one.
The top rim had been distorted and wasn't sealing. OTOH, I
replaced it with another plastic tube from another keg,
undamaged, and it sealed with no problem.
I'd say there's nothing inherently wrong with plastic, if they
are in good condition. OTOH, I plan to get a metal replacement
for the damaged one.
Scott S
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Scott Sellers
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Date: 11 Oct 2006 11:14:06
From: davemchine@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Plastic gas tube/poppet question
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I also have a few kegs with the plastic tube. I'm going to replace
them.
Dave
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Date: 11 Oct 2006 10:22:05
From: Denny Conn
Subject: Re: Plastic gas tube/poppet question
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Sheheryar wrote:
>
> Hi
> I disassembled my ball lock keg last night and noticed a plastic gas
> tube. Is this common. My other one has a steel one and all I have
> seen online are steel tubes under the gas post. Also,it was really
> snug. On another note, I took apart the posts and found a little tiny
> thingy below the poppet? Does one need any thing between the poppet
> and the gas or liquid tube entrance? Any insight would be appreciated
> since I am totally new to corny kegging. Thanks.
It's not common, buty it's not unusal either. Probably about 1/4 of my
25 kegs have those. Was the thing you found under the poppet like a
nylon disc with a hole in the middle?
----------- >Denny
--
Life begins at 60...1.060, that is.
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 06:36:33
From: Sheheryar
Subject: Re: Plastic gas tube/poppet question
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So I take it that there is no source of replacement plastic tubes (is
there one for steel ones?)-- also, does one need a tube at all for the
gas side? I havnt tried this but they fit so snug that I can assume
that the legs of the poppet would stand on the gas side opening rim
with no problem. Any thoughts on this?
William Benz Jr wrote:
> "Warren Place" <wrplace@mailbox.ucdavis.edu> wrote in message
> news:Pine.GSO.4.58.0610111911540.9932@vidi.ucdavis.edu...
> > On Wed, 11 2006, davemchine@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > I also have a few kegs with the plastic tube. I'm going to replace
> > > them.
> > >
> > > Dave
> >
> > I've heard that replacing them can be difficult as the metal and plastic
> > tubes to not fit the same size diptube hole. If you look carefully at the
> > two types of tubes, you might find they have different shapes.
> > Warren Place
>
> On the kegs I have with plastic gas in tubes, the tubes are 1/4" at the top
> and the bottom end has a smaller diameter. I have drilled them out to 1/4"
> and replaced them. Luckily I scavenged the metal tubes out of a bunch of
> coke kegs. They were all split at the seam from freezing. They must have
> had water in them at the time as there was no soda residue inside.
>
> Just make sure you know what you are doing with a drill before attempting
> this as you could easily ruin your keg.
>
> Bill
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 10:09:21
From: Jim Stansell
Subject: Re: Plastic gas tube/poppet question
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On 12 2006 06:36:33 -0700, "Sheheryar"
<sheheryarhasnain@hotmail.com > wrote:
>So I take it that there is no source of replacement plastic tubes (is
>there one for steel ones?)-- also, does one need a tube at all for the
>gas side? I havnt tried this but they fit so snug that I can assume
>that the legs of the poppet would stand on the gas side opening rim
>with no problem. Any thoughts on this?
>
>William Benz Jr wrote:
Both are available from the following source. Some have reported
lengthy delivery times, but I've always gotten good service. YMMV.
http://web.iwebcenters.com/brewersdiscount/item5100.ctlg
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 14:01:13
From: Warren Place
Subject: Re: Plastic gas tube/poppet question
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On Thu, 12 2006, Sheheryar wrote:
> So I take it that there is no source of replacement plastic tubes (is
> there one for steel ones?)-- also, does one need a tube at all for the
> gas side? I havnt tried this but they fit so snug that I can assume
> that the legs of the poppet would stand on the gas side opening rim
> with no problem. Any thoughts on this?
You can get replacement plastic tubes at Brewers Discount
(http://www.rcbequip.com/). I've been happy with them. Also, I have a
2.5 gal keg that I use without the gas diptube and is doesn't seem to
leak. Can't say anything about others.
Warren Place
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