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Date: 06 Dec 2006 19:46:22
From: Curious Fellow
Subject: Pitch from secondary
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I am doing my first yeast innoculation using yeast from a secondary
fermentation. I have bottled the first batch and currently have the
left over yeast sitting in a carboy with about an inch of beer sitting
on top of it with an airlock. How long do I have before pitching to
the new batch?
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Date: 07 Dec 2006 05:30:08
From: Scott Lindner
Subject: Re: Pitch from secondary
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>I am doing my first yeast innoculation using yeast from a secondary
> fermentation. I have bottled the first batch and currently have the
> left over yeast sitting in a carboy with about an inch of beer sitting
> on top of it with an airlock. How long do I have before pitching to
> the new batch?
Is it refrigerated? If not, couple of days, if so, weeks. There's no hard
rule, but that's what I would feel comfortable with. If you do refrigerate
it, be sure to let it warm up before pitching.
Scott
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Date: 07 Dec 2006 18:43:18
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Pitch from secondary
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On 6 Dec 2006 19:46:22 -0800, <wagaman@cox.net > wrote:
> I am doing my first yeast innoculation using yeast from a secondary
> fermentation. I have bottled the first batch and currently have the
> left over yeast sitting in a carboy with about an inch of beer sitting
> on top of it with an airlock. How long do I have before pitching to
> the new batch?
Personally, I like to time my brewing so I can do it on the same day.
However, store it in the fridge and you should be fine for a week or
two. I probably wouldn't let it sit that way for a month though.
John.
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Date: 07 Dec 2006 19:19:21
From: hankus
Subject: Re: Pitch from secondary
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poor off the liquid and top layer of gunk and put it in a bottle/jar so
there is little air space above it and refrigerate it,will be good for a
couple of weeks;wash it (see Wyeast.com) and you can use it in a couple of
months-both situations assume you step it up as a starter
--
Thanks
Hank
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Date: 08 Dec 2006 03:32:18
From: TARogue
Subject: Re: Pitch from secondary
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If you just swish around the left-behind liquid with the left-behind goo
you can pour it into a sanitary container and it becomes it's own
starter.
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TARogue (t o m @ t a r o g u e . n e t)
History is the version of past events that people have decided to agree on.
-- Napoleon Bonaparte, "Maxims"
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Date: 08 Dec 2006 09:33:28
From: Curious Fellow
Subject: Re: Pitch from secondary
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TARogue wrote:
> If you just swish around the left-behind liquid with the left-behind goo
> you can pour it into a sanitary container and it becomes it's own
> starter.
>
> --
> TARogue (t o m @ t a r o g u e . n e t)
> History is the version of past events that people have decided to agree on.
> -- Napoleon Bonaparte, "Maxims"
I like your advise. My "sanitary container" is a carboy with new beer,
and my new batch IS the "starter". Am I thinking the right way???
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Date: 08 Dec 2006 09:26:39
From: Curious Fellow
Subject: Re: Pitch from secondary
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tkcbb77@hotmail.com wrote:
> hankus wrote:
> > poor off the liquid and top layer of gunk and put it in a bottle/jar so
> > there is little air space above it and refrigerate it,will be good for a
> > couple of weeks;wash it (see Wyeast.com) and you can use it in a couple of
> > months-both situations assume you step it up as a starter
>
> Yep. Just dump it in a sanitized mason jar and stick it in the fridge.
> Even without washing, I've never had a problem directly pitching 500 ml
> - 1 L up to 2 months.
Pitched on Nov 18th, the beer sat on the ale yeast about 6 days, then
beer was racked to a secondary and sat for 10 days, and I bottled on
Dec 4th. Has been at about 65 degrees the whole time. I am going to
brew this weekend. I would simply like to warm up the yeast remaining
in the carboy and pitch in my new batch without worrying about gunk as
it seems a pretty clean layer of yeast. What is wrong with that?
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Date: 08 Dec 2006 11:45:33
From: The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty
Subject: Re: Pitch from secondary
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Curious Fellow wrote:
> tkcbb77@hotmail.com wrote:
>> hankus wrote:
>>> poor off the liquid and top layer of gunk and put it in a bottle/jar so
>>> there is little air space above it and refrigerate it,will be good for a
>>> couple of weeks;wash it (see Wyeast.com) and you can use it in a couple of
>>> months-both situations assume you step it up as a starter
>> Yep. Just dump it in a sanitized mason jar and stick it in the fridge.
>> Even without washing, I've never had a problem directly pitching 500 ml
>> - 1 L up to 2 months.
>
> Pitched on Nov 18th, the beer sat on the ale yeast about 6 days, then
> beer was racked to a secondary and sat for 10 days, and I bottled on
> Dec 4th. Has been at about 65 degrees the whole time. I am going to
> brew this weekend. I would simply like to warm up the yeast remaining
> in the carboy and pitch in my new batch without worrying about gunk as
> it seems a pretty clean layer of yeast. What is wrong with that?
>
In general it's better to keep a yeast cake refrigerated if you plan on
storing it longer than a week or so. This helps stave off microbial
action as well as ensure viability -- yeast viability drops off
dramatically when stored at room temp.
You could still go for it, however -- I'd just try to keep the yeast
refrigerated in the future. I *always* pitch on the cake from my
primary, but I do keep it refrigerated between pitches.
Also 65 degrees is pretty much the perfect pitch temp for an ale -- no
need to warm up the cake.
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Date: 08 Dec 2006 07:41:50
From:
Subject: Re: Pitch from secondary
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hankus wrote:
> poor off the liquid and top layer of gunk and put it in a bottle/jar so
> there is little air space above it and refrigerate it,will be good for a
> couple of weeks;wash it (see Wyeast.com) and you can use it in a couple of
> months-both situations assume you step it up as a starter
Yep. Just dump it in a sanitized mason jar and stick it in the fridge.
Even without washing, I've never had a problem directly pitching 500 ml
- 1 L up to 2 months.
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