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Date: 07 Aug 2006 08:09:33
From: Jim
Subject: Outdoor Brewing
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My hobby is starting to cause a problem on my indoor stovetop, and
therefore in my marriage. :) What are your thoughts on brewing outside
with a propane burner? It seems I could slap a lid on it, and bring it
indoors immediately after my boiling is complete.
My wife and kids would also love to keep the smell outdoors as well.
Thanks,
Jim
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Date: 07 Aug 2006 09:48:57
From: Mark R
Subject: Re: Outdoor Brewing
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"Jim" <Jim@no.com > wrote in message
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> My hobby is starting to cause a problem on my indoor stovetop, and
> therefore in my marriage. :) What are your thoughts on brewing outside
> with a propane burner? It seems I could slap a lid on it, and bring it
> indoors immediately after my boiling is complete.
>
> My wife and kids would also love to keep the smell outdoors as well.
I brewed my first batch on the stove top, if memory serves me, Sept of 2000.
I've been using a turkey fryer since then. I do my mini mash in the house as
both my wife and daughter like the smell of the mash and it doesn't take
that long to heat up a couple gallons for mash purposes.
Mark R
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Date: 07 Aug 2006 14:35:09
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Outdoor Brewing
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On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 08:09:33 -0400, <Jim@no.com > wrote:
> My hobby is starting to cause a problem on my indoor stovetop, and
> therefore in my marriage. :) What are your thoughts on brewing outside
> with a propane burner? It seems I could slap a lid on it, and bring it
> indoors immediately after my boiling is complete.
>
> My wife and kids would also love to keep the smell outdoors as well.
IMO, brewing outdoors works great. Not only are you less paranoid about
making a mess, but it's a lot easier to move up to larger batch sizes. You
shouldn't need to worry about rushing it indoors immediately after the boil.
I do the entire operation outside and only bring it in after the carboys
are filled.
John.
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Date: 07 Aug 2006 08:00:16
From: Larry Bristol
Subject: Re: Outdoor Brewing
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Jim wrote:
> My hobby is starting to cause a problem on my indoor stovetop, and
> therefore in my marriage. :) What are your thoughts on brewing outside
> with a propane burner? It seems I could slap a lid on it, and bring it
> indoors immediately after my boiling is complete.
I've been brewing outside on a propane burner for over 20 years. A few
years ago, I bought one of those sculpture thingies, but it is still
propane fired, and I do all my mashing, sparging, and boiling outside on a
deck. I actually *forgot* that some people still brew inside!
> My wife and kids would also love to keep the smell outdoors as well.
My wife loves the smell of the mash, not to mention the smell of hops
freshly added to the boil kettle! Train them! These are good smells!
--
Larry Bristol --- The Double Luck
http://www.doubleluck.com
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Date: 07 Aug 2006 11:30:49
From: Dan Logcher
Subject: Re: Outdoor Brewing
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Larry Bristol wrote:
> Jim wrote:
>
>
>>My hobby is starting to cause a problem on my indoor stovetop, and
>>therefore in my marriage. :) What are your thoughts on brewing outside
>>with a propane burner? It seems I could slap a lid on it, and bring it
>>indoors immediately after my boiling is complete.
>
>
> I've been brewing outside on a propane burner for over 20 years. A few
> years ago, I bought one of those sculpture thingies, but it is still
> propane fired, and I do all my mashing, sparging, and boiling outside on a
> deck. I actually *forgot* that some people still brew inside!
So far so good indoors. I have yet to have a massive boilover.. though I have
a glass top range so cleaning wouldn't been as bad. My only problem in the
Summer is the humidity. I want the moisture in the winter.. I'm not doing
all-grain yet, so indoors works for me. Once I do, I'd probably move it outdoors
for many reasons.
>>My wife and kids would also love to keep the smell outdoors as well.
>
> My wife loves the smell of the mash, not to mention the smell of hops
> freshly added to the boil kettle! Train them! These are good smells!
My son did not like it at first, but has become more tolerable.
My wife can't smell anything most of the time, bad allergies.
--
Dan
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Date: 07 Aug 2006 11:37:58
From: Don Levey
Subject: Re: Outdoor Brewing
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Dan Logcher <dlogcher*xspam*@comcast.net > writes:
> So far so good indoors. I have yet to have a massive boilover.. though I have
> a glass top range so cleaning wouldn't been as bad. My only problem in the
> Summer is the humidity. I want the moisture in the winter.. I'm not doing
> all-grain yet, so indoors works for me. Once I do, I'd probably move it outdoors
> for many reasons.
A boilover on a glass top, if not cleaned up IMMEDIATELY, will burn
and carmelize, requiring much more effort to clean up later (if it can
be done at all). DAMHIKT.
--
Don Levey $ cd /pub
Framingham, MA $ more beer
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Date: 07 Aug 2006 14:28:42
From: Dan Logcher
Subject: Re: Outdoor Brewing
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Don Levey wrote:
> Dan Logcher <dlogcher*xspam*@comcast.net> writes:
>
>
>>So far so good indoors. I have yet to have a massive boilover.. though I have
>>a glass top range so cleaning wouldn't been as bad. My only problem in the
>>Summer is the humidity. I want the moisture in the winter.. I'm not doing
>>all-grain yet, so indoors works for me. Once I do, I'd probably move it outdoors
>>for many reasons.
>
>
> A boilover on a glass top, if not cleaned up IMMEDIATELY, will burn
> and carmelize, requiring much more effort to clean up later (if it can
> be done at all). DAMHIKT.
I've boiled over other stuff, and used the glasstop cleaning stuff. Comes up
with some elbow greasy.. nothing too tramatic.
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Dan
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Date: 07 Aug 2006 15:29:26
From: Don Levey
Subject: Re: Outdoor Brewing
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Dan Logcher <dlogcher*xspam*@comcast.net > writes:
> Don Levey wrote:
>
> > A boilover on a glass top, if not cleaned up IMMEDIATELY, will burn
> > and carmelize, requiring much more effort to clean up later (if it can
> > be done at all). DAMHIKT.
>
> I've boiled over other stuff, and used the glasstop cleaning stuff. Comes up
> with some elbow greasy.. nothing too tramatic.
>
Lucky you! When I've missed, and it's burned on... well, the stove is
almost four years old and I've got at least one splotch that hasn't
come off it most of that time.
--
Don Levey $ cd /pub
Framingham, MA $ more beer
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Date: 07 Aug 2006 19:15:48
From: Scott Lindner
Subject: Re: Outdoor Brewing
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> Lucky you! When I've missed, and it's burned on... well, the stove is
> almost four years old and I've got at least one splotch that hasn't
> come off it most of that time.
I've actually sent tons of gunk down into the stove. You know how the
burners have those vents to the lower level. What a mess! I'm so glad I
switched to brewing outdoors.
Plus, it gets the neighbors poking their heads in to see WTF that odd smell
is. Give 'em a fresh one from the kegerator, tell 'em it's homebrew. They
said "no shit", you say "really", they exclaim "no shit!", you say
"really".. you gotta friend for life that'l never backstab you at the HOA
meetings. :-)
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Date: 08 Aug 2006 09:46:50
From: Mark R
Subject: Re: Outdoor Brewing
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"Scott Lindner" <nospam@noemail.com > wrote in message news:l-
> you gotta friend for life that'l never backstab you at the HOA
> meetings. :-)
I've have several confrontations with my HOA. I call them the House Nazis.
Mark R
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Date: 08 Aug 2006 20:42:19
From: Scott Lindner
Subject: Re: Outdoor Brewing
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> I've have several confrontations with my HOA. I call them the House Nazis.
Sorry to hear about that. I hate gung ho HOAs. I don't mind the ones that
keep you from putting a junked car on blocks in your front yard. But much
beyond that and I hate them.
I personally wish every year we got an additional option to vote for when
electing the board. That extra option is to not have an HOA for that year.
I wonder how many people would vote for that option?
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Date: 09 Aug 2006 09:35:53
From: Mark R
Subject: Re: Outdoor Brewing
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"Scott Lindner" <nospam@noemail.com > wrote in message
news:oo2dnV6I1soX1kTZnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@adelphia.com...
> > I've have several confrontations with my HOA. I call them the House
Nazis.
>
> Sorry to hear about that. I hate gung ho HOAs. I don't mind the ones
that
> keep you from putting a junked car on blocks in your front yard. But much
> beyond that and I hate them.
>
> I personally wish every year we got an additional option to vote for when
> electing the board. That extra option is to not have an HOA for that
year.
> I wonder how many people would vote for that option?
Twice in the 15 years I've been here my escrow has failed to pay the HOA
dues. Both times the way I found out was when a certified letter from their
lawyers arrived at my door. Now I owed the dues and a $300 lawyer's fee.
I've gotten several letters because I had grass growing in the cracks of my
side walk or the yard wasn't properly edged, and a big argument over my 73
Javelin, registered and insured, that they claimed was an abandoned vehicle
being stored on my lot. What I really hate about them is they are one of the
few organizations in Texas that are allowed to place a lien on your house
without taking you to court. There is usually a story every couple of years
in the local news where some poor retired family or person has lost there
house when the HOA sold it just for the back dues. Okay, off my soap box.
Mark R
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Date: 09 Aug 2006 19:01:19
From: Pete
Subject: Re: Outdoor Brewing
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On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 09:35:53 -0500, "Mark R"
<marknorayspam@noev1spam.net > wrote:
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>"Scott Lindner" <nospam@noemail.com> wrote in message
>news:oo2dnV6I1soX1kTZnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@adelphia.com...
>> > I've have several confrontations with my HOA. I call them the House
>Nazis.
>>
>> Sorry to hear about that. I hate gung ho HOAs. I don't mind the ones
>that
>> keep you from putting a junked car on blocks in your front yard. But much
>> beyond that and I hate them.
>>
>> I personally wish every year we got an additional option to vote for when
>> electing the board. That extra option is to not have an HOA for that
>year.
>> I wonder how many people would vote for that option?
>
>Twice in the 15 years I've been here my escrow has failed to pay the HOA
>dues. Both times the way I found out was when a certified letter from their
>lawyers arrived at my door. Now I owed the dues and a $300 lawyer's fee.
>I've gotten several letters because I had grass growing in the cracks of my
>side walk or the yard wasn't properly edged, and a big argument over my 73
>Javelin, registered and insured, that they claimed was an abandoned vehicle
>being stored on my lot. What I really hate about them is they are one of the
>few organizations in Texas that are allowed to place a lien on your house
>without taking you to court. There is usually a story every couple of years
>in the local news where some poor retired family or person has lost there
>house when the HOA sold it just for the back dues. Okay, off my soap box.
>
>Mark R
>
Why would someone want to live in an area that has a HOA??? Where I
live, my rifle/archery range is to the SW and I hunt where I want. My
HOA consists of ME anf my rifles, shotguns, revolvers, and potato
cannon.
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Date: 09 Aug 2006 18:23:59
From: Scott Lindner
Subject: Re: Outdoor Brewing
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> Why would someone want to live in an area that has a HOA??? Where I
> live, my rifle/archery range is to the SW and I hunt where I want. My
> HOA consists of ME anf my rifles, shotguns, revolvers, and potato
> cannon.
Some people believe they hype that they help preserve property values. But
in SoCal you don't have a choice. It's ALL HOAs. Man.. people in
California cannot get enough rules from the local governments, they gotta go
set up more rule making machines to tell them exactly how to live their
lives.
Scott
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Date: 10 Aug 2006 10:15:41
From: Mark R
Subject: Re: Outdoor Brewing
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"Scott Lindner" <nospam@noemail.com > wrote in message
news:WpOdnZP5BrwA4UfZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@adelphia.com...
> > Why would someone want to live in an area that has a HOA??? Where I
> > live, my rifle/archery range is to the SW and I hunt where I want. My
> > HOA consists of ME anf my rifles, shotguns, revolvers, and potato
> > cannon.
>
> Some people believe they hype that they help preserve property values.
But
> in SoCal you don't have a choice. It's ALL HOAs. Man.. people in
> California cannot get enough rules from the local governments, they gotta
go
> set up more rule making machines to tell them exactly how to live their
> lives.
Really no choice here either. The regs are over 100 pages and pretty
ridiculous. They even have one that dictates every house must have a garbage
disposal.I'm sure they'd try to say something about my Ham gear if it wasn't
camouflaged. Heck they'd probably whine about the bar I'm about to build if
they could get into the house to see it.
Mark R
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Date: 09 Aug 2006 14:09:30
From: John Bleichert
Subject: Re: Outdoor Brewing
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Scott Lindner <nospam@noemail.com > wrote:
>> I've have several confrontations with my HOA. I call them the House Nazis.
>
> Sorry to hear about that. I hate gung ho HOAs. I don't mind the ones that
> keep you from putting a junked car on blocks in your front yard. But much
> beyond that and I hate them.
>
> I personally wish every year we got an additional option to vote for when
> electing the board. That extra option is to not have an HOA for that year.
> I wonder how many people would vote for that option?
>
I'd put a pillbox on my front lawn and stuff a water-cooled Vickers
inside it to take care of those pesky HOA reps. If you bought it, it's
yours, and everyone else can f*ck right off.
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John Bleichert syborg@earthlink.net
The heat from below can burn your eyes out!!
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Date: 09 Aug 2006 15:39:51
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Outdoor Brewing
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On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 14:09:30 GMT, <syborg@earthlink.net > wrote:
> Scott Lindner <nospam@noemail.com> wrote:
>>> I've have several confrontations with my HOA. I call them the House Nazis.
>>
>> Sorry to hear about that. I hate gung ho HOAs. I don't mind the ones that
>> keep you from putting a junked car on blocks in your front yard. But much
>> beyond that and I hate them.
>>
>> I personally wish every year we got an additional option to vote for when
>> electing the board. That extra option is to not have an HOA for that year.
>> I wonder how many people would vote for that option?
>>
>
> I'd put a pillbox on my front lawn and stuff a water-cooled Vickers
> inside it to take care of those pesky HOA reps. If you bought it, it's
> yours, and everyone else can f*ck right off.
HOA = control freaks on a power trip. Those are the people that enjoy
telling everyone else what to do. I'm really glad our neighborhood doesn't
have one anymore. Of course, the next neighborhood's HOA has been
trying to annex us. Luckily they don't have any real power.
John.
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Date: 09 Aug 2006 10:42:29
From: Denny Conn
Subject: Re: Outdoor Brewing
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Mark R wrote:
> I've have several confrontations with my HOA. I call them the House Nazis.
Only one of the MANY reasons I love living in the country...the nearest
neighbors are 1/2 mile away!
---------- >Denny
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Life begins at 60...1.060, that is.
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Date: 07 Aug 2006 12:19:45
From: Larry Bristol
Subject: Re: Outdoor Brewing
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Dan Logcher wrote:
> So far so good indoors. I have yet to have a massive boilover.. though I
> have a glass top range so cleaning wouldn't been as bad. My only problem
> in the Summer is the humidity. I want the moisture in the winter.. I'm
> not doing all-grain yet, so indoors works for me. Once I do, I'd probably
> move it outdoors for many reasons.
Curiously, the mashing part wouldn't be a problem indoors for me. It's the
boiling that I want outside, where the heat can easily escape. The propane
burner hardly puts a dent in the Texas heat during the summer anyway. I
don't even want to *think* about humidity!
I think the nicest brew days are ones where the humidity is 100%! IOW: It's
raining! (My deck is covered. I'd tell you to go look at my brewery on
web site, but the hosting service has taken a bad hit and is down at the
moment. Give it a day or so, and it'll be back up.)
--
Larry Bristol --- The Double Luck
http://www.doubleluck.com
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Date: 07 Aug 2006 12:52:23
From: John Bleichert
Subject: Re: Outdoor Brewing
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Jim <Jim@no.com > wrote:
> My hobby is starting to cause a problem on my indoor stovetop, and
> therefore in my marriage. :) What are your thoughts on brewing outside
> with a propane burner? It seems I could slap a lid on it, and bring it
> indoors immediately after my boiling is complete.
>
> My wife and kids would also love to keep the smell outdoors as well.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
I started brewing on the burner from an old turkey fryer kit 4 batches
ago. I plan on boiling outside all winter too (I use my Weber grill
all year). I'll never boil inside again. Maybe if I do a small extract
batch with friends. Takes too long on a stove top to bring 7 gallons
to a boil, stinks up the house and also heats/humidifies it.
Plus - boilovers are easier to clean up outside :-)
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John Bleichert syborg@earthlink.net
The heat from below can burn your eyes out!!
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Date: 07 Aug 2006 08:31:17
From: Dan Logcher
Subject: Re: Outdoor Brewing
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Jim wrote:
> My hobby is starting to cause a problem on my indoor stovetop, and
> therefore in my marriage. :) What are your thoughts on brewing outside
> with a propane burner? It seems I could slap a lid on it, and bring it
> indoors immediately after my boiling is complete.
>
> My wife and kids would also love to keep the smell outdoors as well.
I bought a burner for brewing, but so far have done all my brews on
the kitchen stove. The wife and kid did complain at first, but now
aren't so put off by the smell of the wort.
I bought a Bayou Classic burner and have used it once at a friends
house.
--
Dan
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Date: 07 Aug 2006 06:30:02
From: Scott Lindner
Subject: Re: Outdoor Brewing
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> My hobby is starting to cause a problem on my indoor stovetop, and
> therefore in my marriage. :) What are your thoughts on brewing outside
> with a propane burner? It seems I could slap a lid on it, and bring it
> indoors immediately after my boiling is complete.
I've been doing the entire brew session outdoors using a cheap turkey fryer
for the past three years. I haven't had any problems at all. I even areate
outside using a paint mixer. No infections to date.
At first I was nervous about it but once I figured out how I liked to do it
I preferred it. I could hose down everything and if I made a mess I could
just wash it down the drain.
Scott
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Date: 07 Aug 2006 13:08:03
From: Brian Foster
Subject: Re: Outdoor Brewing
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"Scott Lindner" <nospam@noemail.com > wrote in message
news:yJqdnRPDJZDbr0rZnZ2dnUVZ_vadnZ2d@adelphia.com...
>> My hobby is starting to cause a problem on my indoor stovetop, and
>> therefore in my marriage. :) What are your thoughts on brewing outside
>> with a propane burner? It seems I could slap a lid on it, and bring it
>> indoors immediately after my boiling is complete.
>
> I've been doing the entire brew session outdoors using a cheap turkey
> fryer for the past three years. I haven't had any problems at all. I
> even areate outside using a paint mixer. No infections to date.
>
> At first I was nervous about it but once I figured out how I liked to do
> it I preferred it. I could hose down everything and if I made a mess I
> could just wash it down the drain.
>
> Scott
>How about a little more info on how you utilize the paint mixer? Electric
>drill?
Thanks
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Date: 07 Aug 2006 13:16:39
From: John Bleichert
Subject: Re: Outdoor Brewing
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Brian Foster <brianfoster@houston.rr.com > wrote:
>
> "Scott Lindner" <nospam@noemail.com> wrote in message
> news:yJqdnRPDJZDbr0rZnZ2dnUVZ_vadnZ2d@adelphia.com...
>>> My hobby is starting to cause a problem on my indoor stovetop, and
>>> therefore in my marriage. :) What are your thoughts on brewing outside
>>> with a propane burner? It seems I could slap a lid on it, and bring it
>>> indoors immediately after my boiling is complete.
>>
>> I've been doing the entire brew session outdoors using a cheap turkey
>> fryer for the past three years. I haven't had any problems at all. I
>> even areate outside using a paint mixer. No infections to date.
>>
>> At first I was nervous about it but once I figured out how I liked to do
>> it I preferred it. I could hose down everything and if I made a mess I
>> could just wash it down the drain.
>>
>> Scott
>>How about a little more info on how you utilize the paint mixer? Electric
>>drill?
>
> Thanks
>
>
I use a mix-stor aerator with an electric drill, which is similar to a
paint-stirrer:
http://www.thehomebrewstore.com/HTMLCatalog/mix-stir-aerator.htm
I suppose if I'd had a paint stirrer around I would have used it.
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John Bleichert syborg@earthlink.net
The heat from below can burn your eyes out!!
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Date: 07 Aug 2006 19:12:35
From: Scott Lindner
Subject: Re: Outdoor Brewing
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>How about a little more info on how you utilize the paint mixer? Electric
>drill?
I use my cordless drill on the fastest setting it'll do. I use a cheap
$0.96 plastic paint stirrer from Home Depot. I use it to create an insane
whirlpool for a couple of minutes, or until the battery dies on my drill.
When I've done this on an active yeast cake with a high OG, I've had
explosive results evey time.
I'm sure some serious nutcakes out there can tell me how I'm poisoning
myself but I've never noticed any plasticizer flavors or sents and I soak it
in Iodophor from the beginning of the brew session until I'm ready to use
it.
Scott
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Date: 08 Aug 2006 12:16:49
From: John Bleichert
Subject: Re: Outdoor Brewing
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Scott Lindner <nospam@noemail.com > wrote:
>>How about a little more info on how you utilize the paint mixer? Electric
>>drill?
>
> I use my cordless drill on the fastest setting it'll do. I use a cheap
> $0.96 plastic paint stirrer from Home Depot. I use it to create an insane
> whirlpool for a couple of minutes, or until the battery dies on my drill.
> When I've done this on an active yeast cake with a high OG, I've had
> explosive results evey time.
You're lucky. My cordless can't take it. I have to break out the good
ol' power drill hehe... With it I basically create a carboy full of
head foam. Works like a charm.
>
> I'm sure some serious nutcakes out there can tell me how I'm poisoning
> myself but I've never noticed any plasticizer flavors or sents and I soak it
> in Iodophor from the beginning of the brew session until I'm ready to use
> it.
>
> Scott
>
>
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John Bleichert syborg@earthlink.net
The heat from below can burn your eyes out!!
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Date: 08 Aug 2006 07:01:35
From: Scott Lindner
Subject: Re: Outdoor Brewing
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> You're lucky. My cordless can't take it. I have to break out the good
> ol' power drill hehe... With it I basically create a carboy full of
> head foam. Works like a charm.
yah.. I have one of those newer 19V drills. I think it produces 144ft*in of
torque?
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Date: 09 Aug 2006 07:58:50
From: Jeff
Subject: Re: Outdoor Brewing
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Mark R wrote:
> side walk or the yard wasn't properly edged, and a big argument over my 73
> Javelin, registered and insured, that they claimed was an abandoned vehicle
'73 Javelin - sweet. Had one years ago - same old story: I should have
never let it go.
...just to stay on topic - I do indoor and outdoor. My equipment is all
in the basement, so if the weather is cool I just pop open the basment
windows and brew there. When it's hot and I don't want to nullify the
AC, I take the propane burner out on the back porch.
--Jeff
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Date: 10 Aug 2006 10:25:29
From: Mark R
Subject: Re: Outdoor Brewing
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"Jeff" <jjhenze@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1155135530.101705.245690@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
> Mark R wrote:
> > side walk or the yard wasn't properly edged, and a big argument over my
73
> > Javelin, registered and insured, that they claimed was an abandoned
vehicle
>
> '73 Javelin - sweet. Had one years ago - same old story: I should have
> never let it go.
Home brew and fast cars, my two favorite hobbies. Used to be fast women too
but I'm too old to keep up with them anymore. :-(
Eventually the 73 started to rust, so it's been in the garage for a couple
of years. I have a clean 72 body parked next to it that I intend to bring
back to life by transplanting all the "donor organs" from my 73. It's Alive!
;-)
Mark R
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