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Date: 28 Aug 2006 19:56:28
From: rjwhite6
Subject: No sparge converting grains ratio
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When converting an all grain recipe from fly or batch sparge to no
sparge should I scale up all the grains, not just the base malt?
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Date: 29 Aug 2006 07:22:01
From: Washu
Subject: Re: No sparge converting grains ratio
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> When converting an all grain recipe from fly or batch sparge to no
> sparge should I scale up all the grains, not just the base malt?
I'm thinking of doing a no-sparge batch, how much are you ramping up
your grain bill?
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Date: 29 Aug 2006 14:31:52
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: No sparge converting grains ratio
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On 29 Aug 2006 07:22:01 -0700, <rgrantha@yahoo.com > wrote:
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>> When converting an all grain recipe from fly or batch sparge to no
>> sparge should I scale up all the grains, not just the base malt?
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> I'm thinking of doing a no-sparge batch, how much are you ramping up
> your grain bill?
I'm not the OP, but FWIW I've heard that you should assume around a 50%
efficiency when doing "no-sparge".
John.
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Date: 29 Aug 2006 09:46:27
From: The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty
Subject: Re: No sparge converting grains ratio
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John 'Shaggy' Kolesar wrote:
> On 29 Aug 2006 07:22:01 -0700, <rgrantha@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>When converting an all grain recipe from fly or batch sparge to no
>>>sparge should I scale up all the grains, not just the base malt?
>>
>>I'm thinking of doing a no-sparge batch, how much are you ramping up
>>your grain bill?
>
>
> I'm not the OP, but FWIW I've heard that you should assume around a 50%
> efficiency when doing "no-sparge".
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>
> John.
It seems to vary -- 50% is probably safe, but it varies with your
extraction efficiency (I've also heard 2/3ds or 1/2 your normal
efficiency), as well as how efficient your draining of the first
runnings is -- some systems seem to extract more than others.
It will ALSO vary by how thick your mash is -- you'll likley get better
efficiency with a thinner mash simply because there's more liquor in the
first runnings.
When I do it, I assume 2/3ds my normal efficiency and go with a 2qt/lb
grain-water ratio (sometimes a little higher).
In any case, it's obviously a lot easier to underestimate you efficiency
than overestimate it -- you can always dilute.
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Date: 29 Aug 2006 14:11:01
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: No sparge converting grains ratio
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On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:56:28 -0400, <rjwhite6@cannedspam.msn.com > wrote:
> When converting an all grain recipe from fly or batch sparge to no
> sparge should I scale up all the grains, not just the base malt?
I would scale up any grains that are going into the mash (probably all). If
you are steeping some seperately, then I would leave those the same.
John.
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Date: 29 Aug 2006 22:12:42
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: No sparge converting grains ratio
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rjwhite6 <rjwhite6@cannedspam.msn.com > wrote:
> When converting an all grain recipe from fly or batch sparge
> to no sparge should I scale up all the grains, not just the
> base malt?
Are you going to mash amd then not sparge? Or are you going
to the grains and use LME instead of the base malts?
Dick
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