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Date: 24 May 2006 15:41:05
From: Gerard Eberlein
Subject: No Refill
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I bought a 6 pack of a Michigan brewing company IPA. They are not twist
tops, but as I was cleaning the labels off I noticed ON the bottle (not the
label) along with the coding, it says no refill. Now these don't look the
same quality as the old buy and return bottles from back in the day, but
they are longneck 12 oz. beer bottles. Is there really a reason or is this
just so I don't return them to be refilled by the brewer?
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Date: 24 May 2006 17:40:02
From: Mike Undercofler
Subject: Re: No Refill
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Victory Brewing and Sam Adams bottles are similar to what you discribe, but
marked on the label rather than in the glass. As far as reuse for home
brewing, I have reused several cases of both of the above several times with
no ill effect. They seem to seal as well as normal returnable bottles. They
are a bit lighter (thinner glass) but I have not had a single neck break
even with several (maybe two dozen?) recappings with a twin handle (neck
grabber) capper. With a bench capper, I'd guess they would last almost as
long, if not as long, as the old returnable bottles.
The big things to be concerned with are; look at the mouth of the bottle, it
should have a nice rounded O-ring shape so the cap has a good fit above and
below, and if you use a neck grabber type capper, you need a solid neck ring
for the capper to grab. Twist-offs are sort of square topped, don't seem to
seal well, and let air in. Thin necks without a solid ring for the capper to
grip (like on Guinness bottles in the US) will sometimes break when capping.
I have tried twist offs, and have had some good / some bad history with
them. Out of a half dozen cases, I've broken 3 or 4 necks (messy) and had
about a 50/50 ratio of the beer tasting off from not getting a good air
tight seal. On Guinness bottles I've never had an off taste, but have broken
about 15 bottles out of 4 cases capped.
hth
Mike
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Mike Undercofler
Howard, PA
Email: michael@**cut_from_stars_to_arrows >>mlux2.com
"Gerard Eberlein" <dormouse@charter.net > wrote in message
news:mF2dg.35$Ft.12@fe04.lga...
>I bought a 6 pack of a Michigan brewing company IPA. They are not twist
> tops, but as I was cleaning the labels off I noticed ON the bottle (not
> the
> label) along with the coding, it says no refill. Now these don't look the
> same quality as the old buy and return bottles from back in the day, but
> they are longneck 12 oz. beer bottles. Is there really a reason or is this
> just so I don't return them to be refilled by the brewer?
>
>
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Date: 24 May 2006 13:30:09
From: jwaisanen
Subject: Re: No Refill
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i believe that it's a "legal-ese" phrase, indicating exactly that - the
brewer isn't gonna give you a refill. the phrase is on many commercial
bottles (beer or not), such as the Coca-Cola bottle i'm drinking from.
i think it's simply printed on the glass, not on the label.
feel free to refill it with whatever you want.
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