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Date: 01 Nov 2006 08:52:19
From: CandyPalaceCal
Subject: Newbie question: Using Old Dry Malt
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Please excuse this question if it is embarasingly simple. I have managed to "inherit" Old Dry Malt (I'm guessing 4-5 years) that is still in the sealed plastic. I have noticed that it has large clumps in it (moisture leak in bag?). Is this normal to clump up amongst the powder? Is this to old to use? I hate to throw it out if it is still useable, but then again...I'd rather not poison myself this close to the holidays. Any infor from the Advanced brewers?????
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Date: 01 Nov 2006 12:40:13
From: JS
Subject: Re: Newbie question: Using Old Dry Malt
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On 1 Nov 2006 08:52:19 -0800, "CandyPalaceCal" <villageidiot@dawndollsplus.com > wrote: >Please excuse this question if it is embarasingly simple. I have >managed to "inherit" Old Dry Malt (I'm guessing 4-5 years) that is >still in the sealed plastic. I have noticed that it has large clumps in >it (moisture leak in bag?). Is this normal to clump up amongst the >powder? Is this to old to use? I hate to throw it out if it is still >useable, but then again...I'd rather not poison myself this close to >the holidays. Any infor from the Advanced brewers????? Dry malt is exremely hydroscopic (water absorbing). Clumping is normal. I can't imagine it would pose a health risk, but I would be leary of using malt this old for a brew. How much do you have? It would still be useful for yeast starters. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service ------- >>>>>>http://www.NewsDemon.com<<<<<<------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access
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Date: 01 Nov 2006 11:29:33
From: Wayne
Subject: Re: Newbie question: Using Old Dry Malt
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CandyPalaceCal wrote: > Please excuse this question if it is embarasingly simple. I have > managed to "inherit" Old Dry Malt (I'm guessing 4-5 years) that is > still in the sealed plastic. I have noticed that it has large clumps in > it (moisture leak in bag?). Is this normal to clump up amongst the > powder? Is this to old to use? I hate to throw it out if it is still > useable, but then again...I'd rather not poison myself this close to > the holidays. Any infor from the Advanced brewers????? > I am not so sure about old DME, but I do know that old LME will give you the cidery taste that most folks erroneously attribute to sugar in a recipe. In any case, being that old I would not use it in a brew. However, instead of tossing it out, I would keep it around to make starters since you can always decant off the liquid anyway. Wayne Bugeater Brewing Company
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Date: 01 Nov 2006 12:27:24
From: Gerard Eberlein
Subject: Re: Newbie question: Using Old Dry Malt
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"CandyPalaceCal" <villageidiot@dawndollsplus.com > wrote in message news:1162399938.988127.110630@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Please excuse this question if it is embarasingly simple. I have > managed to "inherit" Old Dry Malt (I'm guessing 4-5 years) that is > still in the sealed plastic. I have noticed that it has large clumps in > it (moisture leak in bag?). Is this normal to clump up amongst the > powder? Is this to old to use? I hate to throw it out if it is still > useable, but then again...I'd rather not poison myself this close to > the holidays. Any infor from the Advanced brewers????? > You won't poison yopurself but you may get off flavours. The clumps are most likely from moisture and the bag being not comepletely sealed or it was open at one time. Personally I wouldn't use it, but I don't like to risk anything. My philosophy is when in doubt throw it out. Others here may have more to say on it. I DO know old LME that has been exposed to air then covered again can go stale over time. Gerard
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Date: 01 Nov 2006 11:31:42
From: The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty
Subject: Re: Newbie question: Using Old Dry Malt
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Gerard Eberlein wrote: > "CandyPalaceCal" <villageidiot@dawndollsplus.com> wrote in message > news:1162399938.988127.110630@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >> Please excuse this question if it is embarasingly simple. I have >> managed to "inherit" Old Dry Malt (I'm guessing 4-5 years) that is >> still in the sealed plastic. I have noticed that it has large clumps in >> it (moisture leak in bag?). Is this normal to clump up amongst the >> powder? Is this to old to use? I hate to throw it out if it is still >> useable, but then again...I'd rather not poison myself this close to >> the holidays. Any infor from the Advanced brewers????? >> > > You won't poison yopurself but you may get off flavours. The clumps are most > likely from moisture and the bag being not comepletely sealed or it was open > at one time. Personally I wouldn't use it, but I don't like to risk > anything. My philosophy is when in doubt throw it out. Others here may have > more to say on it. I DO know old LME that has been exposed to air then > covered again can go stale over time. It's definitely moisture -- DME is extremely hydrophilic and will do this a lot, especially in humid environments. If you don't want to brew with it, keep it around and use it for starters. -- (Replies: cleanse my address of the Mark of the Beast!) Teleoperate a roving mobile robot from the web: http://www.swampgas.com/robotics/rover.html Coauthor with Dennis Clark of "Building Robot Drive Trains". Buy several copies today!
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Date: 01 Nov 2006 20:55:37
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Newbie question: Using Old Dry Malt
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On 1 Nov 2006 08:52:19 -0800, <villageidiot@dawndollsplus.com > wrote: > Please excuse this question if it is embarasingly simple. I have > managed to "inherit" Old Dry Malt (I'm guessing 4-5 years) that is > still in the sealed plastic. I have noticed that it has large clumps in > it (moisture leak in bag?). Is this normal to clump up amongst the > powder? Is this to old to use? I hate to throw it out if it is still > useable, but then again...I'd rather not poison myself this close to > the holidays. Any infor from the Advanced brewers????? The clumps are just moisture that has gotten in and made the DME sticky. Other than turning it into a brick, it doesn't really hurt anything. I do know that LME (liquid extract) has a relatively short shelf life. DME is supposedly much better, although I can't say I've had first hand experience using 4-5 year old DME in anything other than a small starter batch. My best guess is that it would be fine to use though. John.
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Date: 01 Nov 2006 23:08:40
From: Spitzbuben
Subject: Re: Newbie question: Using Old Dry Malt
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I wanna guess that this is one of your first, if not the first, batches. If this is true, PLEASE DON'T WASTE THE BATCH THAT YOU WILL BE LOOKING BACK ON WITH GREAT PRIDE AS A BATCH THAT STARTED WITH CRAPY OLD DRIED MALT EXTRACT. Get some new DME and brew with it. I totally agree with Shaggy, use it for starters. or make some beer for your dog. Spitz
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 11:05:17
From: CandyPalaceCal
Subject: Re: Newbie question: Using Old Dry Malt
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Hello Gang, Thank you for all of the info. It seems that using it as a starter is the concensus, so starter is what it will be. It's better than throwing it out. It's only a couple of pounds, but I'd rather put it to use for something...other than getting the dog and cats drunk. Unfortunately my pets don't know when to stop and the aftermath is HELL! Thanks again Cal Spitzbuben wrote: > I wanna guess that this is one of your first, if not the first, > batches. If this is true, PLEASE DON'T WASTE THE BATCH THAT YOU WILL > BE LOOKING BACK ON WITH GREAT PRIDE AS A BATCH THAT STARTED WITH CRAPY > OLD DRIED MALT EXTRACT. > > Get some new DME and brew with it. I totally agree with Shaggy, use it > for starters. or make some beer for your dog. > > Spitz
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