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Date: 16 Aug 2006 21:42:35
From: Tony
Subject: Need BJCP Study Suggestion
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For anyone who has taken the BJCP exam, what would you recommend to
memorize from the styles guide? I'm thinking the following:
1. All 28 styles and substyles
2. Commercial examples of all styles
What do you think? Thanks.
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Date: 17 Aug 2006 07:56:33
From: MDixon
Subject: Re: Need BJCP Study Suggestion
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Tony wrote:
> For anyone who has taken the BJCP exam, what would you recommend to
> memorize from the styles guide? I'm thinking the following:
>
> 1. All 28 styles and substyles
> 2. Commercial examples of all styles
>
> What do you think? Thanks.
>
Answer and absorb every question and style mentioned here:
http://www.bjcp.org/study.html#exam
Read and absorb everything from this point in the BJCP Study Guide to
the end of the document:
http://www.bjcp.org/study.html#brewing
For every potential style listed in the exam section know:
OG, FG, IBU, ABV, commercial example FROM the guidelines, as well as
brief descriptions of Aroma, Appearance, Flavor, Mouthfeel, OI and some
history if the beer has any of significance.
Skip weird beers, meads and ciders...20-21 and 23-28. Know 1-19 and 22.
Cheers,
Mike
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Date: 19 Aug 2006 18:56:40
From: MDixon
Subject: Re: Need BJCP Study Suggestion
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MDixon wrote:
> For every potential style listed in the exam section know:
> OG, FG, IBU, ABV, commercial example FROM the guidelines, as well as
> brief descriptions of Aroma, Appearance, Flavor, Mouthfeel, OI and some
> history if the beer has any of significance.
Amend that...OG, FG, IBU and ABV are good info, but you no longer need
to show them by memorization, just use them to demonstrate you
understand the styles. However you now should be able to speak about
Aroma, Appearance, Flavor and Mouthfeel in great detail for all the
styles discussed earlier.
Cheers,
Mike
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Date: 17 Aug 2006 23:46:48
From: David M. Taylor
Subject: Re: Need BJCP Study Suggestion
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"Tony" <theworldwillendin30days@mail.com > wrote in message
news:1155789755.911904.183690@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> For anyone who has taken the BJCP exam, what would you recommend to
> memorize from the styles guide? I'm thinking the following:
>
> 1. All 28 styles and substyles
> 2. Commercial examples of all styles
Yes. Memorize the entire BJCP style guidelines. I am not kidding. And
you'd better know your commercial examples inside and out, because many of
the fricking (pardon my unkind word) questions ask you to name commercial
examples of numerous styles.
(I'm still a little bitter.... I took the exam 14 weeks ago, it was pretty
tough, and STILL have not received my scores, though it sounds like I'll be
getting them within a matter of days now... I can only hope.)
--
Dave
"Just a drink, a little drink, and I'll be feeling GOOooOOooOOooD!" --
Genesis, 1973-ish
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 08:41:14
From: MDixon
Subject: Re: Need BJCP Study Suggestion
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David M. Taylor wrote:
> "Tony" <theworldwillendin30days@mail.com> wrote in message
> news:1155789755.911904.183690@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> For anyone who has taken the BJCP exam, what would you recommend to
>> memorize from the styles guide? I'm thinking the following:
>>
>> 1. All 28 styles and substyles
>> 2. Commercial examples of all styles
>
> Yes. Memorize the entire BJCP style guidelines. I am not kidding. And
> you'd better know your commercial examples inside and out, because many of
> the fricking (pardon my unkind word) questions ask you to name commercial
> examples of numerous styles.
>
> (I'm still a little bitter.... I took the exam 14 weeks ago, it was pretty
> tough, and STILL have not received my scores, though it sounds like I'll be
> getting them within a matter of days now... I can only hope.)
Life takes precedence at times for the lowly graders. It takes a minimum
of 3 hours per exam to grade and at times 5 by the time one rights the
RTPs. Think about how many people were in the room with you and multiply
that number by 5. Now you have the number of hours a single grader
worked on the exam set. Then multiply by two for the total number of
hours since it was two graders.
The exam starts out with your pror, then moves to BJCP and then to
the graders. Once the grading is complete it gets handled by at least
two additional people for review. Finally you will get some results.
If you haven't gotten any results yet, be patient, they'll come, then
you can get pissed that you didn't get a copy of the exact questions
that were on the exam and it has been so long since you took it that you
cannot remember them...;)
Cheers,
Mike
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 14:07:20
From: Joel
Subject: Re: Need BJCP Study Suggestion
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In article <4klqrbFcrp4iU1@individual.net >, MDixon <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>If you haven't gotten any results yet, be patient, they'll come, then
>you can get pissed that you didn't get a copy of the exact questions
>that were on the exam and it has been so long since you took it that you
>cannot remember them...;)
Even worse, you don't get a copy of what you yourself
wrote, so what little feedback you get is almost completely
without context.
But you'll have passed the BJCP exam, which, along
with $7.50 plus tip, will get you a pint of beer in NYC
(as long as you don't go somewhere fancy). ;-)
--
Joel Plutchak "Sometimes I think we're alone in the universe, and
plutchak@[...] sometimes I think we're not. In either case the idea
is quite staggering." - Arthur C. Clarke
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 08:25:28
From: Larry Bristol
Subject: Re: Need BJCP Study Suggestion
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MDixon wrote:
> Life takes precedence at times for the lowly graders.
You gotta admit that it must take some kind of dedication that *I* don't
have to grade those ^&$%& things! Almost as much dedication as it takes to
STUDY for it!
> If you haven't gotten any results yet, be patient, they'll come, then
> you can get pissed that you didn't get a copy of the exact questions
> that were on the exam and it has been so long since you took it that you
> cannot remember them...;)
When you get to be my age, and you cannot even remember what you had for
breakfast yesterday, you don't worry about the small stuff like that!
My favorite memory of the test was the recipe question. I forget what I was
ask to formulate, but I proceeded to fashion a recipe like I might brew at
home. The problem is I didn't specify the batch size, and my recipe was
for 10 gallons! I guess the grader figured it out. Either that, or s/he
thought I must like REALLY BIG BEERS!
Been swimming lately? :-)
--
Larry Bristol --- The Double Luck
http://www.doubleluck.com
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Date: 17 Aug 2006 11:21:30
From: aerosol999
Subject: Re: Need BJCP Study Suggestion
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I agree with all of these points and would like to add the
following: read all the classic beer styles books closely. If you have
a good base of understanding about the history of the styles and what
factors brought them about (invention of Munich malt, how water PH
affects dark malt, the microflora of Leuven valley etc.) it will help
you learn by rote all of the hard statistics - at least it worked for
me. More importantly it will help you fudge them if you forget during
the exam.
Plus, it will help you answer the other short answer questions
(ie: give a recipe for a 5 gallon all grain weizen, name 3 german
styles of ale, how does the water in Dublin, Dortmund and Burton on
Trent affect the local beers etc.)
A-ron
> Answer and absorb every question and style mentioned here:
> http://www.bjcp.org/study.html#exam
>
> Read and absorb everything from this point in the BJCP Study Guide to
> the end of the document:
> http://www.bjcp.org/study.html#brewing
>
> For every potential style listed in the exam section know:
> OG, FG, IBU, ABV, commercial example FROM the guidelines, as well as
> brief descriptions of Aroma, Appearance, Flavor, Mouthfeel, OI and some
> history if the beer has any of significance.
>
> Skip weird beers, meads and ciders...20-21 and 23-28. Know 1-19 and 22.
>
> Cheers,
> Mike
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