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Date: 04 Nov 2006 09:54:47
From: ReconRyan
Subject: Mr Beer Mead ?
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Anyone come up with a recipe for Mead using Mr Beer ???
I saw some scratch recipes at:
http://www.bodensatz.com/staticpages/index.php?page=mrbeer
and those are the only scratch recipes for Mr Beer I have been able to
locate. Just wondering if anyone can add to that. And before anyone
starts flaming Mr Beer - I use it because it is the most convienient
size for me, like many people I do not have the time or space for the
regular 5-6 gallon kits. So without further adieu....
Bring out your Mr Beer homemade recipes !!!
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Date: 04 Nov 2006 19:28:23
From: Phil
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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On 4 Nov 2006 09:54:47 -0800, "ReconRyan" <lyincryin@aol.com > wrote:
>Anyone come up with a recipe for Mead using Mr Beer ???
>I saw some scratch recipes at:
>http://www.bodensatz.com/staticpages/index.php?page=mrbeer
>and those are the only scratch recipes for Mr Beer I have been able to
>locate. Just wondering if anyone can add to that. And before anyone
>starts flaming Mr Beer - I use it because it is the most convienient
>size for me, like many people I do not have the time or space for the
>regular 5-6 gallon kits. So without further adieu....
>
>Bring out your Mr Beer homemade recipes !!!
I doubt that the plastic that Mr. Beer is made from will stop oxygen
from passing through. Given this, your batch would be severely
oxidized before it's complete. Also, you have to consider that mead
must be racked a few times before it's finished. That's hard to do
with one fermenting vessel.
Phil
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visit the New York City Homebrewers Guild website:
http://www.hbd.org/nychg
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Date: 04 Nov 2006 20:29:58
From: Ed Edelenbos
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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"Phil" <dogglebe@yahoooo.com > wrote in message
news:dtbqk2dcpimsdfu5788kodonrqgml8gav2@4ax.com...
> On 4 Nov 2006 09:54:47 -0800, "ReconRyan" <lyincryin@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>Anyone come up with a recipe for Mead using Mr Beer ???
>>I saw some scratch recipes at:
>>http://www.bodensatz.com/staticpages/index.php?page=mrbeer
>>and those are the only scratch recipes for Mr Beer I have been able to
>>locate. Just wondering if anyone can add to that. And before anyone
>>starts flaming Mr Beer - I use it because it is the most convienient
>>size for me, like many people I do not have the time or space for the
>>regular 5-6 gallon kits. So without further adieu....
>>
>>Bring out your Mr Beer homemade recipes !!!
>
> I doubt that the plastic that Mr. Beer is made from will stop oxygen
> from passing through. Given this, your batch would be severely
> oxidized before it's complete. Also, you have to consider that mead
> must be racked a few times before it's finished. That's hard to do
> with one fermenting vessel.
>
>
> Phil
> ======
> visit the New York City Homebrewers Guild website:
> http://www.hbd.org/nychg
I made a bunch of batches that were just fine with that fermenter. The
first few were their recipes and ingredients. Most were my own recipes and
standard HBS ingredients. If you haven't used one it is sort of nonsensical
to make assumptions about their utility. If you don't have any recipes for
him, then move on... please. Posts like yours serve no useful purpose.
For Ryan (the OP), try using
http://hbd.org/cgi-bin/recipator/recipator
the program is useful to hone recipes. There is a database of other peoples
recipes to look through for ideas. I wish I had some of those recipes handy
from when I was using a MR Beer.
Ed
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Date: 05 Nov 2006 02:25:16
From: Joel
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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Ed Edelenbos <eded@spookeasy.net > wrote:
>"Phil" <dogglebe@yahoooo.com> wrote in message
>> On 4 Nov 2006 09:54:47 -0800, "ReconRyan" <lyincryin@aol.com> wrote:
>>>Anyone come up with a recipe for Mead using Mr Beer ???
>> I doubt that the plastic that Mr. Beer is made from will stop oxygen
>> from passing through. Given this, your batch would be severely
>> oxidized before it's complete. Also, you have to consider that mead
>> must be racked a few times before it's finished. That's hard to do
>> with one fermenting vessel.
>
>I made a bunch of batches that were just fine with that fermenter. The
>first few were their recipes and ingredients. Most were my own recipes and
>standard HBS ingredients. If you haven't used one it is sort of nonsensical
>to make assumptions about their utility. If you don't have any recipes for
>him, then move on... please. Posts like yours serve no useful purpose.
Phil is right. You are wrong. Mead is not beer, and
requires techniques that would be difficult or impossible
with one of those systems.
--
Joel Plutchak
"Things just fall apart." - Now They'll Sleep (Belly)
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Date: 05 Nov 2006 07:54:17
From: Ed Edelenbos
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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"Joel" <plutchak@see.headers > wrote in message
news:eiji2c$mh4$1@badger.ncsa.uiuc.edu...
> Ed Edelenbos <eded@spookeasy.net> wrote:
>>"Phil" <dogglebe@yahoooo.com> wrote in message
>>> On 4 Nov 2006 09:54:47 -0800, "ReconRyan" <lyincryin@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>Anyone come up with a recipe for Mead using Mr Beer ???
>
>>> I doubt that the plastic that Mr. Beer is made from will stop oxygen
>>> from passing through. Given this, your batch would be severely
>>> oxidized before it's complete. Also, you have to consider that mead
>>> must be racked a few times before it's finished. That's hard to do
>>> with one fermenting vessel.
>>
>>I made a bunch of batches that were just fine with that fermenter. The
>>first few were their recipes and ingredients. Most were my own recipes
>>and
>>standard HBS ingredients. If you haven't used one it is sort of
>>nonsensical
>>to make assumptions about their utility. If you don't have any recipes
>>for
>>him, then move on... please. Posts like yours serve no useful purpose.
>
> Phil is right. You are wrong. Mead is not beer, and
> requires techniques that would be difficult or impossible
> with one of those systems.
> --
> Joel Plutchak
>
Whatever Joel (et. al.)... the immediate "MR BEER is crap and you are an
idiot for even thinking of using one" attitude serves no purpose at all.
Well, maybe it makes the person who posts so feel big and strong... like
an ape beating his chest. I'm sure as hell glad I didn't know about this
place when I started... some of the attitudes would have been enough to
deter me fom pursuing the hobby.
Have a nice day, y'all.
Ed
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Date: 05 Nov 2006 16:20:48
From: Joel
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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Ed Edelenbos <eded@spookeasy.net > wrote:
>"Joel" <plutchak@see.headers> wrote in message
>news:eiji2c$mh4$1@badger.ncsa.uiuc.edu...
>> Ed Edelenbos <eded@spookeasy.net> wrote:
>>>"Phil" <dogglebe@yahoooo.com> wrote in message
>>>> On 4 Nov 2006 09:54:47 -0800, "ReconRyan" <lyincryin@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>Anyone come up with a recipe for Mead using Mr Beer ???
>>
>>>> I doubt that the plastic that Mr. Beer is made from will stop oxygen
>>>> from passing through. Given this, your batch would be severely
>>>> oxidized before it's complete. Also, you have to consider that mead
>>>> must be racked a few times before it's finished. That's hard to do
>>>> with one fermenting vessel.
>>>
>>>I made a bunch of batches that were just fine with that fermenter. The
>>>first few were their recipes and ingredients. Most were my own recipes
>>>and
>>>standard HBS ingredients. If you haven't used one it is sort of
>>>nonsensical
>>>to make assumptions about their utility. If you don't have any recipes
>>>for
>>>him, then move on... please. Posts like yours serve no useful purpose.
>>
>> Phil is right. You are wrong. Mead is not beer, and
>> requires techniques that would be difficult or impossible
>> with one of those systems.
>
>Whatever Joel (et. al.)... the immediate "MR BEER is crap and you are an
>idiot for even thinking of using one" attitude serves no purpose at all.
If you can find that sentiment in my response, or in Phil's,
you are deluded. I do believe it's you who are reacting to
some sort of preconceived notions, or feelings of inferiority.
>Well, maybe it makes the person who posts so feel big and strong... like
>an ape beating his chest.
Oh, the irony.
>I'm sure as hell glad I didn't know about this
>place when I started... some of the attitudes would have been enough to
>deter me fom pursuing the hobby.
Yup, you have bizarre preconceived notions. Seek help.
--
Joel Plutchak
"Things just fall apart." - Now They'll Sleep (Belly)
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Date: 05 Nov 2006 15:45:21
From: The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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Ed Edelenbos wrote:
> "Joel" <plutchak@see.headers> wrote in message
> news:eiji2c$mh4$1@badger.ncsa.uiuc.edu...
>> Ed Edelenbos <eded@spookeasy.net> wrote:
>>> "Phil" <dogglebe@yahoooo.com> wrote in message
>>>> On 4 Nov 2006 09:54:47 -0800, "ReconRyan" <lyincryin@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>> Anyone come up with a recipe for Mead using Mr Beer ???
>>>> I doubt that the plastic that Mr. Beer is made from will stop oxygen
>>>> from passing through. Given this, your batch would be severely
>>>> oxidized before it's complete. Also, you have to consider that mead
>>>> must be racked a few times before it's finished. That's hard to do
>>>> with one fermenting vessel.
>>> I made a bunch of batches that were just fine with that fermenter. The
>>> first few were their recipes and ingredients. Most were my own recipes
>>> and
>>> standard HBS ingredients. If you haven't used one it is sort of
>>> nonsensical
>>> to make assumptions about their utility. If you don't have any recipes
>>> for
>>> him, then move on... please. Posts like yours serve no useful purpose.
>> Phil is right. You are wrong. Mead is not beer, and
>> requires techniques that would be difficult or impossible
>> with one of those systems.
>> --
>> Joel Plutchak
>>
>
>
> Whatever Joel (et. al.)... the immediate "MR BEER is crap and you are an
> idiot for even thinking of using one" attitude serves no purpose at all.
> Well, maybe it makes the person who posts so feel big and strong... like
> an ape beating his chest. I'm sure as hell glad I didn't know about this
> place when I started... some of the attitudes would have been enough to
> deter me fom pursuing the hobby.
>
Nobody made fun of the OP or Mr. Beer -- Phil just pointed out that it's
probably not a good vehicle for mead-making, and did so politely. Why
the tirade?
--
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Date: 05 Nov 2006 20:32:39
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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Ed Edelenbos <eded@spookeasy.net > wrote:
> "Joel" <plutchak@see.headers> wrote:
>> Ed Edelenbos <eded@spookeasy.net> wrote:
>>> "Phil" <dogglebe@yahoooo.com> wrote in message
>>>> "ReconRyan" <lyincryin@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>> Anyone come up with a recipe for Mead using Mr Beer ???
Excuse me, Ed, but this is a thread based on the question above.
You are the only who has raised the issue that Mr. Beer is crap.
>>>> I doubt that the plastic that Mr. Beer is made from will stop oxygen
>>>> from passing through. Given this, your batch would be severely
>>>> oxidized before it's complete. Also, you have to consider that mead
>>>> must be racked a few times before it's finished. That's hard to do
>>>> with one fermenting vessel.
>>> I made a bunch of batches that were just fine with that fermenter. The
>>> first few were their recipes and ingredients. Most were my own recipes
>>> and standard HBS ingredients. If you haven't used one it is sort of
>>> nonsensical to make assumptions about their utility. If you don't have
>>> any recipes for him, then move on... please. Posts like yours serve
>>> no useful purpose.
>> Phil is right. You are wrong. Mead is not beer, and
>> requires techniques that would be difficult or impossible
>> with one of those systems.
> Whatever Joel (et. al.)... the immediate "MR BEER is crap and you are an
> idiot for even thinking of using one" attitude serves no purpose at all.
> Well, maybe it makes the person who posts so feel big and strong... like
> an ape beating his chest. I'm sure as hell glad I didn't know about this
> place when I started... some of the attitudes would have been enough to
> deter me fom pursuing the hobby.
What makes your failure to understand the subject matter even more
humorous is all you have done here is to attack two of the more
knowledgeable Mead guys in this newsgroup. The only issue being
raised by knowledgeable people is that the plastic used for the
Mr. Beer fermenter is probably not suitable for making Mead.
Dick
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Date: 06 Nov 2006 17:52:04
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 07:54:17 -0500, <eded@spookeasy.net > wrote:
> Whatever Joel (et. al.)... the immediate "MR BEER is crap and you are an
> idiot for even thinking of using one" attitude serves no purpose at all.
Hopefully the purpose such posts do serve is to make someone who hasn't
purchased one yet, but is thinking about it, re-consider their decision.
There are many valid reasons why a traditional equipment kit from a LHBS is
a much better idea than the Mr Beer kit.
John.
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Date: 04 Nov 2006 17:55:00
From: Tony M
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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"Ed Edelenbos" <eded@spookeasy.net > wrote in message
news:UaOdnUgWvaIEo9DYnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>
> "Phil" <dogglebe@yahoooo.com> wrote in message
> news:dtbqk2dcpimsdfu5788kodonrqgml8gav2@4ax.com...
>> On 4 Nov 2006 09:54:47 -0800, "ReconRyan" <lyincryin@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Anyone come up with a recipe for Mead using Mr Beer ???
>>>I saw some scratch recipes at:
>>>http://www.bodensatz.com/staticpages/index.php?page=mrbeer
>>>and those are the only scratch recipes for Mr Beer I have been able to
>>>locate. Just wondering if anyone can add to that. And before anyone
>>>starts flaming Mr Beer - I use it because it is the most convienient
>>>size for me, like many people I do not have the time or space for the
>>>regular 5-6 gallon kits. So without further adieu....
>>>
>>>Bring out your Mr Beer homemade recipes !!!
>>
>> I doubt that the plastic that Mr. Beer is made from will stop oxygen
>> from passing through. Given this, your batch would be severely
>> oxidized before it's complete. Also, you have to consider that mead
>> must be racked a few times before it's finished. That's hard to do
>> with one fermenting vessel.
>>
>>
>> Phil
>> ======
>> visit the New York City Homebrewers Guild website:
>> http://www.hbd.org/nychg
>
> I made a bunch of batches that were just fine with that fermenter. The
> first few were their recipes and ingredients. Most were my own recipes
> and standard HBS ingredients. If you haven't used one it is sort of
> nonsensical to make assumptions about their utility. If you don't have
> any recipes for him, then move on... please. Posts like yours serve no
> useful purpose.
>
> For Ryan (the OP), try using
>
> http://hbd.org/cgi-bin/recipator/recipator
>
> the program is useful to hone recipes. There is a database of other
> peoples recipes to look through for ideas. I wish I had some of those
> recipes handy from when I was using a MR Beer.
>
> Ed
>
This is mostly unrelated to this thread but I just wanted to say thanks for
the link. I've been searching for a good recipe site and WOW that one is the
best one I've seen so far.
As far as using the Mr. Beer fermenter I have no useful advice. I brewed one
batch in mine and it tasted like bandaids and since then I've moved up to 5
gal batches.
For Ryan, if you decide to try a mead in the Mr Beer fermenter let me know
if you want an extra one to rack back and forth in. Maybe we could arrange
something. Tony
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Date: 05 Nov 2006 14:23:34
From: Tony M
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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"Tony M" <fakeemail@null.com > wrote in message
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>
> "Ed Edelenbos" <eded@spookeasy.net> wrote in message
> news:UaOdnUgWvaIEo9DYnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>>
>> "Phil" <dogglebe@yahoooo.com> wrote in message
>> news:dtbqk2dcpimsdfu5788kodonrqgml8gav2@4ax.com...
>>> On 4 Nov 2006 09:54:47 -0800, "ReconRyan" <lyincryin@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Anyone come up with a recipe for Mead using Mr Beer ???
>>>>I saw some scratch recipes at:
>>>>http://www.bodensatz.com/staticpages/index.php?page=mrbeer
>>>>and those are the only scratch recipes for Mr Beer I have been able to
>>>>locate. Just wondering if anyone can add to that. And before anyone
>>>>starts flaming Mr Beer - I use it because it is the most convienient
>>>>size for me, like many people I do not have the time or space for the
>>>>regular 5-6 gallon kits. So without further adieu....
>>>>
>>>>Bring out your Mr Beer homemade recipes !!!
>>>
>>> I doubt that the plastic that Mr. Beer is made from will stop oxygen
>>> from passing through. Given this, your batch would be severely
>>> oxidized before it's complete. Also, you have to consider that mead
>>> must be racked a few times before it's finished. That's hard to do
>>> with one fermenting vessel.
>>>
>>>
>>> Phil
>>> ======
>>> visit the New York City Homebrewers Guild website:
>>> http://www.hbd.org/nychg
>>
>> I made a bunch of batches that were just fine with that fermenter. The
>> first few were their recipes and ingredients. Most were my own recipes
>> and standard HBS ingredients. If you haven't used one it is sort of
>> nonsensical to make assumptions about their utility. If you don't have
>> any recipes for him, then move on... please. Posts like yours serve no
>> useful purpose.
>>
>> For Ryan (the OP), try using
>>
>> http://hbd.org/cgi-bin/recipator/recipator
>>
>> the program is useful to hone recipes. There is a database of other
>> peoples recipes to look through for ideas. I wish I had some of those
>> recipes handy from when I was using a MR Beer.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>
> This is mostly unrelated to this thread but I just wanted to say thanks
> for the link. I've been searching for a good recipe site and WOW that one
> is the best one I've seen so far.
> As far as using the Mr. Beer fermenter I have no useful advice. I brewed
> one batch
"of beer" I've never made mead in anything. I hope that didn't throw off too
many people. I brewed one batch of beer in my mr beer ...thing and it tasted
like bandaids. It was pretty horrible but it did pop my beer making cherry
and really got me thinking about making beer the right way. It took a couple
months of contemplation and saving beer bottles but I eventually made the
plunge and bought the right equipment and now have a batch that's hopefully
ready to bottle. This waiting and babysitting is driving me crazy.
The mr beer fermenter offer is still out there for beer, mead, rootbeer,
lemonaid, soup, whatever. I'll never use it again and I'm willing to part
with it for next to nothing, probably closer to free as long as someone
supplies shipping.
Tony
>in mine and it tasted like bandaids and since then I've moved up to 5 gal
>batches.
> For Ryan, if you decide to try a mead in the Mr Beer fermenter let me know
> if you want an extra one to rack back and forth in. Maybe we could arrange
> something. Tony
>
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Date: 04 Nov 2006 19:38:20
From: The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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Ed Edelenbos wrote:
> "Phil" <dogglebe@yahoooo.com> wrote in message
> news:dtbqk2dcpimsdfu5788kodonrqgml8gav2@4ax.com...
>> On 4 Nov 2006 09:54:47 -0800, "ReconRyan" <lyincryin@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone come up with a recipe for Mead using Mr Beer ???
>>> I saw some scratch recipes at:
>>> http://www.bodensatz.com/staticpages/index.php?page=mrbeer
>>> and those are the only scratch recipes for Mr Beer I have been able to
>>> locate. Just wondering if anyone can add to that. And before anyone
>>> starts flaming Mr Beer - I use it because it is the most convienient
>>> size for me, like many people I do not have the time or space for the
>>> regular 5-6 gallon kits. So without further adieu....
>>>
>>> Bring out your Mr Beer homemade recipes !!!
>> I doubt that the plastic that Mr. Beer is made from will stop oxygen
>> from passing through. Given this, your batch would be severely
>> oxidized before it's complete. Also, you have to consider that mead
>> must be racked a few times before it's finished. That's hard to do
>> with one fermenting vessel.
>>
>>
>> Phil
>> ======
>> visit the New York City Homebrewers Guild website:
>> http://www.hbd.org/nychg
>
> I made a bunch of batches that were just fine with that fermenter. The
> first few were their recipes and ingredients. Most were my own recipes and
> standard HBS ingredients. If you haven't used one it is sort of nonsensical
> to make assumptions about their utility. If you don't have any recipes for
> him, then move on... please. Posts like yours serve no useful purpose.
You made meads? As phil points out, mead is a different animal than
beer. It will sit in the primary far longer, and so probably wants glass
or something relatively impermeable to O2, and generally wants to be
racked multiple times. Does Mister Beer come with multiple fermenters?
Meads may age for a year -- typically more. Have you aged anything in
Mr. Beer for periods approaching a year or longer?
--
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Date: 05 Nov 2006 08:45:27
From: Phil
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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On Sat, 4 Nov 2006 20:29:58 -0500, "Ed Edelenbos" <eded@spookeasy.net >
wrote:
>I made a bunch of batches that were just fine with that fermenter. The
>first few were their recipes and ingredients. Most were my own recipes and
>standard HBS ingredients. If you haven't used one it is sort of nonsensical
>to make assumptions about their utility. If you don't have any recipes for
>him, then move on... please. Posts like yours serve no useful purpose.
Posts like yours serve no purpose.
I've been making mead for about seven years now and I won't bottle it
until it's a year old. I also rack it several times during that year.
How old is your mead when you bottle or drink it? How often do you
rack it?
Oxygen will pass through a Mr. Beer fermenter and it will ruin the
batch.
And, from my experience tasting the Mr. Beer products, it doesn't make
that great a beer.
Phil
======
visit the New York City Homebrewers Guild website:
http://www.hbd.org/nychg
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Date: 05 Nov 2006 09:50:23
From: Ed Edelenbos
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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"Phil" <dogglebe@yahoooo.com > wrote in message
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> On Sat, 4 Nov 2006 20:29:58 -0500, "Ed Edelenbos" <eded@spookeasy.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>I made a bunch of batches that were just fine with that fermenter. The
>>first few were their recipes and ingredients. Most were my own recipes
>>and
>>standard HBS ingredients. If you haven't used one it is sort of
>>nonsensical
>>to make assumptions about their utility. If you don't have any recipes
>>for
>>him, then move on... please. Posts like yours serve no useful purpose.
>
> Posts like yours serve no purpose.
Oooo... more chest beating. I love it.
>
> I've been making mead for about seven years now and I won't bottle it
> until it's a year old. I also rack it several times during that year.
> How old is your mead when you bottle or drink it? How often do you
> rack it?
I made one melomel. I didn't like it any more or less than any mead I ever
tried. It turns out, I just don't like the stuff. With your line of
thinking, I guess I should tell you that it just shouldn't be made.
Actually, I have 2 bottles left that are around 3 years old (fwiw, it was
made in glass fermenters and took about 8 or 9 months before it went into
the bottle). It ought to be great, huh? I bet I still won't like it.
>
> Oxygen will pass through a Mr. Beer fermenter and it will ruin the
> batch.
>
Given the typical timespan of making *BEER*, I don't believe you. Given my
personal experience using a MR BEER fermenter, I absolutely don't believe
you.
> And, from my experience tasting the Mr. Beer products, it doesn't make
> that great a beer.
>
Well, if you can find in date ingredients, it just barely makes drinkable
beer. For it's intended use, the equipment is just fine though.
The bottom line is... and the fellow explained why he doesn't want to move
up to bigger batches... if it is all you have, make the best you can with
it. How about a little friendly advice instead of snide comments? Would
it hurt so much to say;
Ryan, there is the possibility of oxidation using those plastic barrels for
mead. You would do much better to get ahold of a 3 gallon glass carboy.
Here are some links to some instructional material and recipes for mead...
I guess that doesn't give you the feeling of superiority that ragging on the
guy does.
Sheesh...
Ed
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Date: 05 Nov 2006 16:23:06
From: Joel
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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Ed Edelenbos <eded@spookeasy.net > wrote:
>Oooo... more chest beating. I love it.
>I guess that doesn't give you the feeling of superiority that ragging on the
>guy does.
Oh, the irony.
--
Joel Plutchak
"Things just fall apart." - Now They'll Sleep (Belly)
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Date: 05 Nov 2006 11:29:20
From: Phil
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 16:23:06 +0000 (UTC), plutchak@see.headers (Joel)
wrote:
>Ed Edelenbos <eded@spookeasy.net> wrote:
>>Oooo... more chest beating. I love it.
>
>>I guess that doesn't give you the feeling of superiority that ragging on the
>>guy does.
>
> Oh, the irony.
I think the irony is that this guy is trying to come off as an expert
when he can't make mead.
Phil
======
visit the New York City Homebrewers Guild website:
http://www.hbd.org/nychg
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Date: 05 Nov 2006 12:10:57
From: Ed Edelenbos
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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"Phil" <dogglebe@yahoooo.com > wrote in message
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> On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 16:23:06 +0000 (UTC), plutchak@see.headers (Joel)
> wrote:
>
>>Ed Edelenbos <eded@spookeasy.net> wrote:
>>>Oooo... more chest beating. I love it.
>>
>>>I guess that doesn't give you the feeling of superiority that ragging on
>>>the
>>>guy does.
>>
>> Oh, the irony.
>
> I think the irony is that this guy is trying to come off as an expert
> when he can't make mead.
>
>
> Phil
> ======
> visit the New York City Homebrewers Guild website:
> http://www.hbd.org/nychg
Phil buddy...
rec.crafts.meadmaking
I've made a mead... I've drunk various professionally made meads... it
tastes like botched attempts at making wine. That should make you happy...
more for you.
Have a nice day.
Ed
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Date: 05 Nov 2006 12:48:06
From: Phil
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 12:10:57 -0500, "Ed Edelenbos" <eded@spookeasy.net >
wrote:
>
>Ed
And, incase you haven't been keeping count:
Seven people posted on this thread. Two (one being the OP), didn't
express an opinion. Four said you can't make mead with Mr. Beer.
Only one said you can...and that's the guy who was unhappy with the
one (count 'em, one) batch he made.
Phil
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visit the New York City Homebrewers Guild website:
http://www.hbd.org/nychg
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Date: 05 Nov 2006 13:10:44
From: Ed Edelenbos
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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"Phil" <dogglebe@yahoooo.com > wrote in message
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> On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 12:10:57 -0500, "Ed Edelenbos" <eded@spookeasy.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Ed
>
> And, incase you haven't been keeping count:
>
> Seven people posted on this thread. Two (one being the OP), didn't
> express an opinion. Four said you can't make mead with Mr. Beer.
> Only one said you can...and that's the guy who was unhappy with the
> one (count 'em, one) batch he made.
>
Where did I say that, Phil? I said that the equipment when used as intended
is fine. You are the one that immediately said it will not work... not
that there is the possibility of problems... it will not work.
Pay attention.
Are you this funny everywhere or do you save it for here?
Ed
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Date: 05 Nov 2006 21:49:55
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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Ed Edelenbos <eded@spookeasy.net > wrote:
> "Phil" <dogglebe@yahoooo.com> wrote:
>> "Ed Edelenbos" <eded@spookeasy.net> wrote:
>> And, incase you haven't been keeping count:
>>
>> Seven people posted on this thread. Two (one being the OP), didn't
>> express an opinion. Four said you can't make mead with Mr. Beer.
>> Only one said you can...and that's the guy who was unhappy with the
>> one (count 'em, one) batch he made.
Actually there were two posters who said they made Mead with a
Mr. Beer fermenter. Tony said his tasted like bandaids and I
said I mixed mine with cream soda to make it drinkable.
For the record, in spite of two back surgeries for compression
fractures in the last two years, I will make at least 120 gallons
of Mead this year.
> Where did I say that, Phil? I said that the equipment when used
> as intended is fine. You are the one that immediately said it
> will not work... not that there is the possibility of problems...
> it will not work.
The equipment is intended for making small batches of quick
fermenting beer. The ad at Amazon.com says 7 days in the
fermenter and 7 days in the bottle. If you can do that with
Mead with an ABV of 10% plus, I will pay to learn how.
Also Mr. Beer use PET bottles. I use Pet bottles too when I
plan to drink a batch within a few weeks. But PET bottles
are for keeping carbonation from seeping out. They will let
oxygen seep in. Which means PET bottles are unacceptable
for storing Mead even to me who will drink 3-4 month old
Mead.
Mr. Beer has seriously upgraded in quality. See MrBeer.com
They have gone to a two gallon fermenter with Cooper style
brew kits. But nowhere on their wesite do they mention mead.
Nor do they mention the type of plastic used for their
fermenter.
> Pay attention.
You need to start doing that.
> Are you this funny everywhere or do you save it for here?
Are you this obnoxious everywhere or do you save it for here?
Dick
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Date: 05 Nov 2006 14:23:37
From: Tony M
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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"Dick Adams" <rdadams@smart.net > wrote in message
news:12ksn43fq2ims19@corp.supernews.com...
> Ed Edelenbos <eded@spookeasy.net> wrote:
>> "Phil" <dogglebe@yahoooo.com> wrote:
>>> "Ed Edelenbos" <eded@spookeasy.net> wrote:
>
>>> And, incase you haven't been keeping count:
>>>
>>> Seven people posted on this thread. Two (one being the OP), didn't
>>> express an opinion. Four said you can't make mead with Mr. Beer.
>>> Only one said you can...and that's the guy who was unhappy with the
>>> one (count 'em, one) batch he made.
>
> Actually there were two posters who said they made Mead with a
> Mr. Beer fermenter. Tony said his tasted like bandaids and I
> said I mixed mine with cream soda to make it drinkable.
Sorry about the mix-up. I meant to say I've only brewed 1 batch of beer in
my mr beer fermenter. That's what tasted like bandaids. I would eventually
like to make a batch of mead though, but it'll probably be in a glass
container.
Tony
>
> For the record, in spite of two back surgeries for compression
> fractures in the last two years, I will make at least 120 gallons
> of Mead this year.
>
>> Where did I say that, Phil? I said that the equipment when used
>> as intended is fine. You are the one that immediately said it
>> will not work... not that there is the possibility of problems...
>> it will not work.
>
> The equipment is intended for making small batches of quick
> fermenting beer. The ad at Amazon.com says 7 days in the
> fermenter and 7 days in the bottle. If you can do that with
> Mead with an ABV of 10% plus, I will pay to learn how.
>
> Also Mr. Beer use PET bottles. I use Pet bottles too when I
> plan to drink a batch within a few weeks. But PET bottles
> are for keeping carbonation from seeping out. They will let
> oxygen seep in. Which means PET bottles are unacceptable
> for storing Mead even to me who will drink 3-4 month old
> Mead.
>
> Mr. Beer has seriously upgraded in quality. See MrBeer.com
> They have gone to a two gallon fermenter with Cooper style
> brew kits. But nowhere on their wesite do they mention mead.
> Nor do they mention the type of plastic used for their
> fermenter.
>
>> Pay attention.
>
> You need to start doing that.
>
>> Are you this funny everywhere or do you save it for here?
>
> Are you this obnoxious everywhere or do you save it for here?
>
> Dick
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Date: 05 Nov 2006 13:19:41
From: Phil
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 13:10:44 -0500, "Ed Edelenbos" <eded@spookeasy.net >
wrote:
>
>"Phil" <dogglebe@yahoooo.com> wrote in message
>news:8l8sk2d8n1ss3gvvj47pn78pvl9setbrdc@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 12:10:57 -0500, "Ed Edelenbos" <eded@spookeasy.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Ed
>>
>> And, incase you haven't been keeping count:
>>
>> Seven people posted on this thread. Two (one being the OP), didn't
>> express an opinion. Four said you can't make mead with Mr. Beer.
>> Only one said you can...and that's the guy who was unhappy with the
>> one (count 'em, one) batch he made.
>>
>
>Where did I say that, Phil?
It was around the time you said this:
"Given the typical timespan of making *BEER*, I don't believe you.
Given my personal experience using a MR BEER fermenter, I absolutely
don't believe you."
Myself, and others, are saying you can't. And you disagree with us.
Phil
======
visit the New York City Homebrewers Guild website:
http://www.hbd.org/nychg
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Date: 05 Nov 2006 19:47:54
From: Ed Edelenbos
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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Y'know Phil, I'm backing off. Your orig. reply to the thread read very
differently to me. Maybe I am bringing preconceptions (memories of the not
so distant past on this ng actually.) If I read it wrong, my bad... I
apologize.
I have to agree... mead left to sit in a MR BEER fermeter for several
months could suffer. I have no hard experiential data to back it up, but it
could be. Will better equipment yield better results... probably (but it
certainly isn't guaranteed). I made some good *beer* in a MR BEER fermenter
(and secondaried in a plastic UTZ pretzel barrel!!!) before I had better
equipment (neither primary nor secondary was more than 10 days each). If
all I had was that MR BEER barrel, hmmmm, hard call whether I'd continue the
hobby or not.... but that's because I keg and would find it hard to go back
to bottling. I'm still happy I got the thing because it got me started in
the hobby. And, I enjoy the hobby.
Mead? I'm sure there is good mead out there... maybe I'll find some one
day. What I made tasted like several of the ones I've bought. To each
their own.
Ed
"Phil" <dogglebe@yahoooo.com > wrote in message
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> On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 13:10:44 -0500, "Ed Edelenbos" <eded@spookeasy.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Phil" <dogglebe@yahoooo.com> wrote in message
>>news:8l8sk2d8n1ss3gvvj47pn78pvl9setbrdc@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 12:10:57 -0500, "Ed Edelenbos" <eded@spookeasy.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Ed
>>>
>>> And, incase you haven't been keeping count:
>>>
>>> Seven people posted on this thread. Two (one being the OP), didn't
>>> express an opinion. Four said you can't make mead with Mr. Beer.
>>> Only one said you can...and that's the guy who was unhappy with the
>>> one (count 'em, one) batch he made.
>>>
>>
>>Where did I say that, Phil?
>
> It was around the time you said this:
>
> "Given the typical timespan of making *BEER*, I don't believe you.
> Given my personal experience using a MR BEER fermenter, I absolutely
> don't believe you."
>
> Myself, and others, are saying you can't. And you disagree with us.
>
>
> Phil
> ======
> visit the New York City Homebrewers Guild website:
> http://www.hbd.org/nychg
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Date: 06 Nov 2006 06:26:36
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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Ed Edelenbos <eded@spookeasy.net > wrote:
> ...
> Mead? I'm sure there is good mead out there... maybe I'll
> find some one day. What I made tasted like several of the
> ones I've bought. To each their own.
Because the restuarant market for Mead is almost non-existent,
the only incentive commercial mazers have aging Meads to 5, 7,
10 years etc. is hope that individuals will spread the word on
their quality and one day a restaurant market will exist.
Because of this, homebrewed Mead, properly aged, is quite often
the best Mead most people can have. I have never properly aged
a Mead, but this year my production is well in excess off my
consumption and I am hoping for some great Mead. At Mead
competitions, I have tasted Meads for which I would gladly pay.
Dick
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Date: 06 Nov 2006 18:09:51
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 06:26:36 -0000, <rdadams@smart.net > wrote:
> Ed Edelenbos <eded@spookeasy.net> wrote:
>
>> ...
>
>> Mead? I'm sure there is good mead out there... maybe I'll
>> find some one day. What I made tasted like several of the
>> ones I've bought. To each their own.
>
> Because the restuarant market for Mead is almost non-existent,
> the only incentive commercial mazers have aging Meads to 5, 7,
> 10 years etc. is hope that individuals will spread the word on
> their quality and one day a restaurant market will exist.
>
> Because of this, homebrewed Mead, properly aged, is quite often
> the best Mead most people can have. I have never properly aged
> a Mead, but this year my production is well in excess off my
> consumption and I am hoping for some great Mead. At Mead
> competitions, I have tasted Meads for which I would gladly pay.
Based on my experience, commmercial meads are generally not very good.
Probably for the same reasons Dick suggests, there's just no real
demand for it.
If it's not your thing, that's fine. There are probably styles of beer that
you like which I don't. No big deal. However, I wouldn't necessarily
base an opinion on all mead just from commercial examples. A good homebrew
mead maker can easily produce stuff that is far better than any commercial
examples. That's true with homebrewed beer as well in most cases, but
the difference with mead is far more dramatic.
John.
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Date: 05 Nov 2006 12:28:50
From: Phil
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 12:10:57 -0500, "Ed Edelenbos" <eded@spookeasy.net >
wrote:
>
>"Phil" <dogglebe@yahoooo.com> wrote in message
>news:r94sk2tgc9geeoogl87030v3af374l6ab9@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 16:23:06 +0000 (UTC), plutchak@see.headers (Joel)
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Ed Edelenbos <eded@spookeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>Oooo... more chest beating. I love it.
>>>
>>>>I guess that doesn't give you the feeling of superiority that ragging on
>>>>the
>>>>guy does.
>>>
>>> Oh, the irony.
>>
>> I think the irony is that this guy is trying to come off as an expert
>> when he can't make mead.
>>
>>
>> Phil
>> ======
>> visit the New York City Homebrewers Guild website:
>> http://www.hbd.org/nychg
>
>Phil buddy...
>
>rec.crafts.meadmaking
>
>I've made a mead... I've drunk various professionally made meads... it
>tastes like botched attempts at making wine. That should make you happy...
>more for you.
What would make me happy is that not give advice about things you
don't know about.
Phil
======
visit the New York City Homebrewers Guild website:
http://www.hbd.org/nychg
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Date: 05 Nov 2006 18:37:16
From: Bob F
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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"Ed Edelenbos" <eded@spookeasy.net > wrote in message news:NqqdnWb5euG-
>
> I've made a mead... I've drunk various professionally made meads... it
> tastes like botched attempts at making wine. That should make you
happy...
> more for you.
>
I tried a mead at a homebrew club meeting a couple
months ago that was heavenly. Way better than most
wines I've tried.
Bob
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Date: 06 Nov 2006 18:02:24
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 11:29:20 -0500, <dogglebe@yahoooo.com > wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 16:23:06 +0000 (UTC), plutchak@see.headers (Joel)
> wrote:
>
>>Ed Edelenbos <eded@spookeasy.net> wrote:
>>>Oooo... more chest beating. I love it.
>>
>>>I guess that doesn't give you the feeling of superiority that ragging on the
>>>guy does.
>>
>> Oh, the irony.
>
> I think the irony is that this guy is trying to come off as an expert
> when he can't make mead.
Just to speak up in Ed's defense a bit. If it means anything, IMO he's
a good guy, fairly knowledgable about brewing beer, and usually gives out
good advice. I think he just gets a little defensive about the Mr Beer kits.
John.
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Date: 05 Nov 2006 11:07:54
From: Phil
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 09:50:23 -0500, "Ed Edelenbos" <eded@spookeasy.net >
wrote:
>> I've been making mead for about seven years now and I won't bottle it
>> until it's a year old. I also rack it several times during that year.
>> How old is your mead when you bottle or drink it? How often do you
>> rack it?
>
>I made one melomel. I didn't like it any more or less than any mead I ever
>tried. It turns out, I just don't like the stuff. With your line of
>thinking, I guess I should tell you that it just shouldn't be made.
>Actually, I have 2 bottles left that are around 3 years old (fwiw, it was
>made in glass fermenters and took about 8 or 9 months before it went into
>the bottle). It ought to be great, huh? I bet I still won't like it.
One whole batch, huh? You're basing your argument on one whole batch?
There's a reason why I don't give out advice about jet engine repair:
I know nothing about jet engines.
>> Oxygen will pass through a Mr. Beer fermenter and it will ruin the
>> batch.
>
>Given the typical timespan of making *BEER*, I don't believe you. Given my
>personal experience using a MR BEER fermenter, I absolutely don't believe
>you.
When you're making a basic ale, and you bottle it in a week, air
doesn't have time to pass through the plastic. Mead takes a lot
longer than that to ferment.
>The bottom line is... and the fellow explained why he doesn't want to move
>up to bigger batches... if it is all you have, make the best you can with
>it. How about a little friendly advice instead of snide comments? Would
>it hurt so much to say;
The bottom line is that you know jackshit about making mead. You made
one batch and you didn't like it, but you're willing to come here like
an expert and say that a cheap plastic container can be used for it.
It can't!
My advice for the OP is to purchase three gallon carboys and use those
for making beer and mead. If he want to make less mead than that at a
time, he can always purchase one gallon jugs.
Do not use Mister Beer for making mead.
Phil
======
visit the New York City Homebrewers Guild website:
http://www.hbd.org/nychg
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Date: 05 Nov 2006 09:08:59
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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Ed Edelenbos <eded@spookeasy.net > wrote:
> "Phil" <dogglebe@yahoooo.com> wrote:
>> "ReconRyan" <lyincryin@aol.com> wrote:
>>> Anyone come up with a recipe for Mead using Mr Beer ???
>>> .....
>> I doubt that the plastic that Mr. Beer is made from will stop oxygen
>> from passing through. Given this, your batch would be severely
>> oxidized before it's complete. Also, you have to consider that mead
>> must be racked a few times before it's finished. That's hard to do
>> with one fermenting vessel.
> I made a bunch of batches that were just fine with that fermenter. The
> first few were their recipes and ingredients. Most were my own recipes and
> standard HBS ingredients. If you haven't used one it is sort of nonsensical
> to make assumptions about their utility. If you don't have any recipes for
> him, then move on... please. Posts like yours serve no useful purpose.
Oh Contrare! A friend got a Mr. Beer as a present a couple of
years ago and asked me if I'd make it for him. He said the beer
was ok and I kept the fermenter which is a six quart container
with liter markings.
I used it once for Mead. My notes say I used 2.5 lbs of honey in
a 5 quart batch with 1/2 packet of Lalvin 71B-1122 and 3/4 tsp
of Fermax when I pitched the yeast and 1/4 tsp two weeks later.
It fermented at 65F in my fridge.
First problem is you must siphon it from the fermenter because
the tap at the bottom will get too much of the lees into the
secondary.
Second problem is taking a hydrometer reading is always a pain
to me and with that fermenter you need to look down and guess.
Yes you could use a beer thief, but, with only 5 quarts, why
waste the Mead.
I have a very bad habit of drinking young Mead. The taste of
that batch was not all that good. I had to mix it with cream
soda to make it worth drinking.
A much easier proposition for making small batches is to buy
a 4 liter jug of Gallo, transfer it into wine bottles, then
cork, label, and give them as gifts to people who won't know
the difference. :)
You wind up with a 4-liter glass bottle for small batches.
My experience is that empty 4-liter glass bottles are hard
to find in the States.
Dick
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Date: 06 Nov 2006 17:44:33
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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On Sat, 4 Nov 2006 20:29:58 -0500, <eded@spookeasy.net > wrote:
>
> "Phil" <dogglebe@yahoooo.com> wrote in message
> news:dtbqk2dcpimsdfu5788kodonrqgml8gav2@4ax.com...
>> On 4 Nov 2006 09:54:47 -0800, "ReconRyan" <lyincryin@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Anyone come up with a recipe for Mead using Mr Beer ???
>>>I saw some scratch recipes at:
>>>http://www.bodensatz.com/staticpages/index.php?page=mrbeer
>>>and those are the only scratch recipes for Mr Beer I have been able to
>>>locate. Just wondering if anyone can add to that. And before anyone
>>>starts flaming Mr Beer - I use it because it is the most convienient
>>>size for me, like many people I do not have the time or space for the
>>>regular 5-6 gallon kits. So without further adieu....
>>>
>>>Bring out your Mr Beer homemade recipes !!!
>>
>> I doubt that the plastic that Mr. Beer is made from will stop oxygen
>> from passing through. Given this, your batch would be severely
>> oxidized before it's complete. Also, you have to consider that mead
>> must be racked a few times before it's finished. That's hard to do
>> with one fermenting vessel.
>>
>>
> I made a bunch of batches that were just fine with that fermenter. The
> first few were their recipes and ingredients. Most were my own recipes and
> standard HBS ingredients. If you haven't used one it is sort of nonsensical
> to make assumptions about their utility. If you don't have any recipes for
> him, then move on... please. Posts like yours serve no useful purpose.
Phil actually has a very good point. Meads typically spend a lot more
time in the fermenter than beers do. Given that, oxygen permeability is
a bigger issue than for typical beer procedures. Like him, I would
question the Mr Beer's oxygen permeability. That's nothing specifically
against Mr Beer (although I'll grant that I'm not a fan of it anyway), just
that it's a lower cost alternative that was not really meant for long term
mead fermentations.
It should still be possible to make a mead in a Mr Beer setup, but I'm not
sure if it'll be as good as one made with better equipment.
John.
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Date: 06 Nov 2006 17:39:19
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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On 4 Nov 2006 09:54:47 -0800, <lyincryin@aol.com > wrote:
> Anyone come up with a recipe for Mead using Mr Beer ???
> I saw some scratch recipes at:
> http://www.bodensatz.com/staticpages/index.php?page=mrbeer
> and those are the only scratch recipes for Mr Beer I have been able to
> locate. Just wondering if anyone can add to that. And before anyone
> starts flaming Mr Beer - I use it because it is the most convienient
> size for me, like many people I do not have the time or space for the
> regular 5-6 gallon kits. So without further adieu....
Just grab any mead recipe you want and scale it down to your batch size.
I don't know for sure, but if Mr Beer (shudder) makes 2.5 gallon batches
then just take any standard mead recipe and divide everything by 2.
John.
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Date: 06 Nov 2006 02:11:39
From: ReconRyan
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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Ed Edelenbos wrote:
> "Phil" <dogglebe@yahoooo.com> wrote in message
> news:igqrk2p4o8hptcmpj1oo5d6jaq5458b04q@4ax.com...
> > On Sat, 4 Nov 2006 20:29:58 -0500, "Ed Edelenbos" <eded@spookeasy.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> Here are some links to some instructional material and recipes for mead...
I guess you forgot them... :-)
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Date: 06 Nov 2006 06:37:31
From: Ed Edelenbos
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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"ReconRyan" <lyincryin@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1162807899.241451.267840@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> Ed Edelenbos wrote:
>> "Phil" <dogglebe@yahoooo.com> wrote in message
>> news:igqrk2p4o8hptcmpj1oo5d6jaq5458b04q@4ax.com...
>> > On Sat, 4 Nov 2006 20:29:58 -0500, "Ed Edelenbos" <eded@spookeasy.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>
>> Here are some links to some instructional material and recipes for
>> mead...
>
>
>
> I guess you forgot them... :-)
>
Sorry Ryan. I don't have any... I figured the mead expert would. Here are
a few links I found by googling "mead recipe". Google is pretty powerful...
give it a try.
http://hbd.org/brewery/library/beeslees.html
http://www.honeywine.com/mead/recipes/recipes.html
http://www.greydragon.org/brewing/mead.html
http://www.solorb.com/mead/
http://hbd.org/brewery/cm3/recs/10_toc.html
Ed
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Date: 06 Nov 2006 06:40:20
From: Ed Edelenbos
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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"Ed Edelenbos" <eded@spookeasy.net > wrote in message
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>
> "ReconRyan" <lyincryin@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1162807899.241451.267840@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Ed Edelenbos wrote:
>>> "Phil" <dogglebe@yahoooo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:igqrk2p4o8hptcmpj1oo5d6jaq5458b04q@4ax.com...
>>> > On Sat, 4 Nov 2006 20:29:58 -0500, "Ed Edelenbos" <eded@spookeasy.net>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>
>>> Here are some links to some instructional material and recipes for
>>> mead...
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>>
>>
>> I guess you forgot them... :-)
>>
>
> Sorry Ryan. I don't have any... I figured the mead expert would. Here
> are a few links I found by googling "mead recipe". Google is pretty
> powerful... give it a try.
>
> http://hbd.org/brewery/library/beeslees.html
> http://www.honeywine.com/mead/recipes/recipes.html
> http://www.greydragon.org/brewing/mead.html
> http://www.solorb.com/mead/
> http://hbd.org/brewery/cm3/recs/10_toc.html
>
> Ed
>
Oh yeah... rec.crafts.meadmaking
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Date: 06 Nov 2006 01:52:18
From: ReconRyan
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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All this being said, good or bad...
does anyone have Mead recipe that can be used for Mr Beer including the
special procedures for my "quaint" 2 gallon kit ? What a bout a recipe
that can easily be scaled down from 5 gallons ?
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Date: 06 Nov 2006 18:18:06
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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On 6 Nov 2006 01:52:18 -0800, <lyincryin@aol.com > wrote:
> What a bout a recipe that can easily be scaled down from 5 gallons ?
On a homebrew scale, pretty much any recipe can be scaled down
linearly. IE, if it's a 5 gallon recipe and you want to make 2
gallons, just scale everything down 2/5.
It's not that simple on a large commercial scale, but for us it's
really that easy.
John.
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Date: 06 Nov 2006 11:07:31
From: Phil
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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On 6 Nov 2006 01:52:18 -0800, "ReconRyan" <lyincryin@aol.com > wrote:
>All this being said, good or bad...
>does anyone have Mead recipe that can be used for Mr Beer including the
>special procedures for my "quaint" 2 gallon kit ? What a bout a recipe
>that can easily be scaled down from 5 gallons ?
Were you paying attention to this thread? Mister Beer is not designed
for long term fermentation. And since it's only one fermenter to it,
you can't rack the mead off the sediment.
Any mead you make with Mr./ Beer would be bad.
Phil
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visit the New York City Homebrewers Guild website:
http://www.hbd.org/nychg
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Date: 06 Nov 2006 11:10:40
From: Ed Edelenbos
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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"Phil" <dogglebe@yahoooo.com > wrote in message
news:t9nuk2tuiggids9ugm95sb1ebmmh0i3sbh@4ax.com...
> On 6 Nov 2006 01:52:18 -0800, "ReconRyan" <lyincryin@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>All this being said, good or bad...
>>does anyone have Mead recipe that can be used for Mr Beer including the
>>special procedures for my "quaint" 2 gallon kit ? What a bout a recipe
>>that can easily be scaled down from 5 gallons ?
>
> Were you paying attention to this thread? Mister Beer is not designed
> for long term fermentation. And since it's only one fermenter to it,
> you can't rack the mead off the sediment.
>
> Any mead you make with Mr./ Beer would be bad.
>
>
> Phil
> ======
> visit the New York City Homebrewers Guild website:
> http://www.hbd.org/nychg
Ha ha ha.... you so funny
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Date: 06 Nov 2006 16:02:40
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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ReconRyan <lyincryin@aol.com > wrote:
> All this being said, good or bad...
> does anyone have Mead recipe that can be used for Mr Beer including the
> special procedures for my "quaint" 2 gallon kit ? What a bout a recipe
> that can easily be scaled down from 5 gallons ?
Wait a day or two for Gotmead.com to be reloaded so you can
calculate the correct weight of honey for and OG of about
1.06. Off the top of my head, I guess about 3 lbs. This
is so you get a fast fermentation.
You don't need to boil the honey. If you buy the honey from
a beekeeper, I would suggest you heat a a gallon of water to
about 165F, add the honey, maintain the temperature above
160F for about 5 minutes, and stir the hell out of it.
This will pasteurize the honey.
Otherwise heat the honey in a microwave for 15 seconds to
make it easier to mix with water. You still need to stir
the hell out of it.
In both cases, you will need to skim the scum off the top
of the "must" (the Mead word for wort).
I know that GotMead.com had a recipe for a two week Mead.
Dick
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Date: 06 Nov 2006 07:07:54
From: Walter Venables
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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Here is my recipe. Go to your local Meadery buy a gallon worth of mead put
it in the Mr. Beer and use it as a dispenser only.
--
"The speed of light is faster than the speed of sound. This explains why
some people appear to be bright until they open their mouth."
"ReconRyan" <lyincryin@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1162806738.895058.269500@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> All this being said, good or bad...
> does anyone have Mead recipe that can be used for Mr Beer including the
> special procedures for my "quaint" 2 gallon kit ? What a bout a recipe
> that can easily be scaled down from 5 gallons ?
>
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Date: 06 Nov 2006 19:58:28
From: ReconRyan
Subject: Re: Mr Beer Mead ?
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Thanks for all the links. Complete Joy of Homebrewing has some recipes
and general guidelines for mead too - I have not read the whole book
yet. Looks like if I want to get serious about Mead Ill need other
equipment - I cant go without a homebrew for months while waiting for a
mead... :-) Although there are plenty of Mr Beer recipes that
call for several months fermentation... And if I get glass carboys
for the mead I might as well switch to 5 gallon batches, maybe my tax
refund could go to all new equipment ?
Anyhoo, thanks again for all the tips !
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