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Date: 30 Nov 2006 16:41:56
From: Scott
Subject: Mold spots


hi all

I bottled off 5 dozen botttles of Red Ale last night from a Brew House kit,
but much to my dismay, there were 7 or 8 little mold spots sitting on top of
the beer in the secondary. I siphoned the beer out of the secondary into my
bottling bucket and didn't get any of the mold...but is this still safe? It
tasted fine to me tho...but i'm new to this. It's my second batch..and the
first one turned out perfect. The only difference is that i used a blow off
tube this time during fermentation and ran it into another bucket half full
of water...

Any ideas what happened..or if the beer will be decent...or if i'm gonna
die, cause dammit i'm drinkin it anyway :)

Cheers,
Scott






 
Date: 30 Nov 2006 15:07:10
From: John Krehbiel
Subject: Re: Mold spots



Scott wrote:
> hi all
>
> I bottled off 5 dozen botttles of Red Ale last night from a Brew House kit,
> but much to my dismay, there were 7 or 8 little mold spots sitting on top of
> the beer in the secondary. I siphoned the beer out of the secondary into my
> bottling bucket and didn't get any of the mold...but is this still safe? It
> tasted fine to me tho...but i'm new to this. It's my second batch..and the
> first one turned out perfect. The only difference is that i used a blow off
> tube this time during fermentation and ran it into another bucket half full
> of water...
>
> Any ideas what happened..or if the beer will be decent...or if i'm gonna
> die, cause dammit i'm drinkin it anyway :)
>
> Cheers,
> Scott

If it tastes OK, don't worry about it. Mold digests extracellularly,
which means that it excretes enzymes and absorbs the digested stuff.
That's why Jello turns to liquid when it gets moldy. You may have some
off flavor from the mold, but it will not hurt you unless you are
allergic or something.

Also, John Kolesar is right about mistaking little patches of bubbles
for mold. I did that once when I first started.

John



  
Date: 01 Dec 2006 00:38:58
From: Gwidman
Subject: Re: Mold spots



"John Krehbiel" <jkrehbielp@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1164928030.268232.278900@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
>
> Scott wrote:
>> hi all
>>
>> I bottled off 5 dozen botttles of Red Ale last night from a Brew House
>> kit,
>> but much to my dismay, there were 7 or 8 little mold spots sitting on top
>> of
>> the beer in the secondary. I siphoned the beer out of the secondary into
>> my
>> bottling bucket and didn't get any of the mold...but is this still safe?
>> It
>> tasted fine to me tho...but i'm new to this. It's my second batch..and
>> the
>> first one turned out perfect. The only difference is that i used a blow
>> off
>> tube this time during fermentation and ran it into another bucket half
>> full
>> of water...
>>
>> Any ideas what happened..or if the beer will be decent...or if i'm gonna
>> die, cause dammit i'm drinkin it anyway :)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Scott
>
> If it tastes OK, don't worry about it. Mold digests extracellularly,
> which means that it excretes enzymes and absorbs the digested stuff.
> That's why Jello turns to liquid when it gets moldy. You may have some
> off flavor from the mold, but it will not hurt you unless you are
> allergic or something.
>
> Also, John Kolesar is right about mistaking little patches of bubbles
> for mold. I did that once when I first started.
>
> John

Every experienced brewer has seen patches of unrecognizable ugly stuff
floating on top of the brew in the fermentor. Taste it. If it's bad, you
won't be able to swallow it. If you can't taste it, it's ok, go ahead and
bottle it or carbonate it. If it's drinkable it won't kill you. That has
been my experience, and I'm still alive after 57 years of some really
questionable tastings.

Gary
>




 
Date: 30 Nov 2006 15:06:38
From: John Krehbiel
Subject: Re: Mold spots



Scott wrote:
> hi all
>
> I bottled off 5 dozen botttles of Red Ale last night from a Brew House kit,
> but much to my dismay, there were 7 or 8 little mold spots sitting on top of
> the beer in the secondary. I siphoned the beer out of the secondary into my
> bottling bucket and didn't get any of the mold...but is this still safe? It
> tasted fine to me tho...but i'm new to this. It's my second batch..and the
> first one turned out perfect. The only difference is that i used a blow off
> tube this time during fermentation and ran it into another bucket half full
> of water...
>
> Any ideas what happened..or if the beer will be decent...or if i'm gonna
> die, cause dammit i'm drinkin it anyway :)
>
> Cheers,
> Scott

If it tastes OK, don't worry about it. Mold digests extracellularly,
which means that it excretes enzymes and absorbs the digested stuff.
That's why Jello turns to liquid when it gets moldy. You may have some
off flavor from the mold, but it will not hurt you unless you are
allergic or something.

Also, John Kolesar is right about mistaking little patches of bubbles
for mold. I did that once when I first started.

John



 
Date: 30 Nov 2006 21:49:20
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Mold spots


On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 16:41:56 -0330, <scottluby@nl.rogers.com > wrote:
> hi all
>
> I bottled off 5 dozen botttles of Red Ale last night from a Brew House kit,
> but much to my dismay, there were 7 or 8 little mold spots sitting on top of
> the beer in the secondary. I siphoned the beer out of the secondary into my
> bottling bucket and didn't get any of the mold...

Are you really sure it was mold? It is quite common for beginners to see
things like yeast/trub/bubbles clinging to the surface and mistake it for
mold. Most of the time it's not mold, just normal stuff for a fermentation.

> but is this still safe? It tasted fine to me tho...

It should be safe, I don't think anything which can really hurt you will
survive in beer (or at least only in *very* rare cases). If it tastes
fine, then I wouldn't worry about it.


John.


 
Date: 30 Nov 2006 13:43:00
From: Scott P
Subject: Re: Mold spots


The good news is that there are no deadly pathogens known to man that
can survive in beer, so I say drink up. You'll know if you have an
infection if your bottles start going off like hand grenades - KA BOOM!

On my first batch ever my buddy Greg and I got a bunch of free bottles
from bars, but apparently didn't clean all of them well enough. A
bunch of the bottles exploded, some were gushers, and a couple grew
green slime molds. A few of them actually turned out on the short side
of ok - those we drank and this was a great lesson about sanitation!
Opening bottles from that first batch was a lot like playing craps!

Cheers!

Scott P.
Brewing in Boise, Idaho

On Nov 30, 1:11 pm, "Scott" <scottl...@nl.rogers.com > wrote:
> hi all
>
> I bottled off 5 dozen botttles of Red Ale last night from a Brew House kit,
> but much to my dismay, there were 7 or 8 little mold spots sitting on top of
> the beer in the secondary. I siphoned the beer out of the secondary into my
> bottling bucket and didn't get any of the mold...but is this still safe? It
> tasted fine to me tho...but i'm new to this. It's my second batch..and the
> first one turned out perfect. The only difference is that i used a blow off
> tube this time during fermentation and ran it into another bucket half full
> of water...
>
> Any ideas what happened..or if the beer will be decent...or if i'm gonna
> die, cause dammit i'm drinkin it anyway :)
>
> Cheers,
> Scott



 
Date: 30 Nov 2006 20:38:25
From: Bart Goddard
Subject: Re: Mold spots


scottluby@nl.rogers.com wrote:

> there were 7 or 8 little mold spots
> sitting on top of the beer in the secondary.

Mold has (or can have) long stingy tails, so just missing
the spots doesn't clean your beer. However, there are lots
of things that are perfectly harmless but _look like_ mold.
Soggy, pale beer-logged pieces of hops or other crud, e.g.,
or little "colonies" of tiny bubbles.

I can't stand the thought of drinking (or eating) mold, so if
I were sure it really were mold, I'd pitch it. Others might not.
(Actually, with Xmas rolling up, I might bottle it and give it
to the in-laws. 2 birds, 1 stone, so to speak.)

The only sure-fire test that I know of for mold is to get
someone with a severe mold allergy to try the sample.

Bart

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