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Date: 06 Oct 2006 13:02:06
From: Gerard Eberlein
Subject: Mold in blowoff bucket
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This is a continuation on my need help post about moving. I still have my
brew in primary after 11 days, was gonna move it in primary next week. The
krausen has fallen and there are a few remnant bubbles which I know is
normal. I had removed the hose the other day and put in a plug with a 3
piece airlock. I didn't empty the blowoff bucket till today and to my horror
there was mold or something growing in the water. I know, I probably should
have used something like starsan solution or something instead of straight
water but I had done it this way before with no problems. What is the chance
of my brew becoming infected? Should I try to secondary it? I look in the
primary carboy i see the top of the wort looks normal, save some remnant
krausen floating on top. But there is condensation inside as well at the top
and I'm worried(I know worrying is bad for beer) that it might start molding
as well. Can I save this beer? I Haven't checked the FG yet but it was OG
1.091. Will that high of an alcohol keep it from becoming infected or should
I try to bottle now. I really wanted to dry hop before bottling. FWIW it
also has had about 5 oz of hops added during the brew session. This was an
expensive brew and I really want to save it. Thanx in advance.
Gerard
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Date: 06 Oct 2006 18:09:59
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Mold in blowoff bucket
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On Fri, 6 2006 13:02:06 -0400, <dormouse@charter.net > wrote:
> This is a continuation on my need help post about moving. I still have my
> brew in primary after 11 days, was gonna move it in primary next week. The
> krausen has fallen and there are a few remnant bubbles which I know is
> normal. I had removed the hose the other day and put in a plug with a 3
> piece airlock. I didn't empty the blowoff bucket till today and to my horror
> there was mold or something growing in the water. I know, I probably should
> have used something like starsan solution or something instead of straight
> water but I had done it this way before with no problems. What is the chance
> of my brew becoming infected?
Mold in the blowoff bucket is probably because it was exposed to
environmental air. I'm assuming that your blowoff was just open and
you didn't have it sealed somehow. I wouldn't worry about it.
John.
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Date: 06 Oct 2006 14:58:53
From: Gerard Eberlein
Subject: Re: Mold in blowoff bucket
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"John 'Shaggy' Kolesar" <spam@shagg.net > wrote in message
news:slrneid76q.qri.spam@weizen.shagg.net...
> On Fri, 6 2006 13:02:06 -0400, >
> Mold in the blowoff bucket is probably because it was exposed to
> environmental air. I'm assuming that your blowoff was just open and
> you didn't have it sealed somehow. I wouldn't worry about it.
>
>
> John.
yea it was an open bucket. It was sill pushing out CO2 when I exchanged the
hose for the airlock so I would think that no spores or whatever could float
back into the carboy. Thanks.
Gerard
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Date: 06 Oct 2006 19:24:38
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Mold in blowoff bucket
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On Fri, 6 2006 14:58:53 -0400, <dormouse@charter.net > wrote:
>
> "John 'Shaggy' Kolesar" <spam@shagg.net> wrote in message
> news:slrneid76q.qri.spam@weizen.shagg.net...
>> On Fri, 6 2006 13:02:06 -0400, >
>> Mold in the blowoff bucket is probably because it was exposed to
>> environmental air. I'm assuming that your blowoff was just open and
>> you didn't have it sealed somehow. I wouldn't worry about it.
>>
>>
>> John.
>
> yea it was an open bucket. It was sill pushing out CO2 when I exchanged the
> hose for the airlock so I would think that no spores or whatever could float
> back into the carboy. Thanks.
Even if it wasn't actively pushing out CO2, I'm assuming that the blowoff
bucket was below the level of the neck of the carboy and that the blowoff
tube ran down to the bucket. Bacteria can't "fly". They won't travel
up the tube and get back into the carboy. IMO, the only thing you'd have
to worry about is if the blowoff bucket somehow started pushing back
into the carboy (not likely), or if the infection that you were seeing
in the bucket originated in the carboy (possible). I think it'll be fine
though.
John.
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Date: 06 Oct 2006 16:06:35
From: Gerard Eberlein
Subject: Re: Mold in blowoff bucket
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"John 'Shaggy' Kolesar" <spam@shagg.net > wrote in message
news:slrneidbio.qri.spam@weizen.shagg.net...
> On Fri, 6 2006 14:58:53 -0400, <dormouse@charter.net> wrote:
> >
> > "John 'Shaggy' Kolesar" <spam@shagg.net> wrote in message
> > news:slrneid76q.qri.spam@weizen.shagg.net...
> >> On Fri, 6 2006 13:02:06 -0400, >
> >> Mold in the blowoff bucket is probably because it was exposed to
> >> environmental air. I'm assuming that your blowoff was just open and
> >> you didn't have it sealed somehow. I wouldn't worry about it.
> >>
> >>
> >> John.
> >
> > yea it was an open bucket. It was sill pushing out CO2 when I exchanged
the
> > hose for the airlock so I would think that no spores or whatever could
float
> > back into the carboy. Thanks.
>
> Even if it wasn't actively pushing out CO2, I'm assuming that the blowoff
> bucket was below the level of the neck of the carboy and that the blowoff
> tube ran down to the bucket. Bacteria can't "fly". They won't travel
> up the tube and get back into the carboy. IMO, the only thing you'd have
> to worry about is if the blowoff bucket somehow started pushing back
> into the carboy (not likely), or if the infection that you were seeing
> in the bucket originated in the carboy (possible). I think it'll be fine
> though.
>
>
> John.
So the condensation inside the carboy shouldn't be an issue? This is the
first time I'm seen condensation....I did move it to a warmer are, like a
65F room from the fridge, so I assume that caused it. Is the condensation
clean so to speak. Like it would have alcohol and stuff from the brew that
will keep it from molding? Also should I clean the bucket with bleach as
well as the hose, which was still partailly in the bucket, before using
again or can I just use PBW and StarSan to clean/sanitize? This isn't a
normal practice of mine, I'm usually very punctual on cleaning but my move
is hurried and I've been packing boxes, etc. all week.
Gerard
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Date: 09 Oct 2006 15:19:21
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Mold in blowoff bucket
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On Fri, 6 2006 16:06:35 -0400, <dormouse@charter.net > wrote:
> So the condensation inside the carboy shouldn't be an issue? This is the
> first time I'm seen condensation....I did move it to a warmer are, like a
> 65F room from the fridge, so I assume that caused it. Is the condensation
> clean so to speak. Like it would have alcohol and stuff from the brew that
> will keep it from molding?
It's probably just from the temp change. IMO, nothing to worry about.
It's made up of the same stuff that's already in the carboy, so shouldn't
pose any additional infection risk. I doubt it'll mold as long as the
carboy is sealed.
> Also should I clean the bucket with bleach as
> well as the hose, which was still partailly in the bucket, before using
> again or can I just use PBW and StarSan to clean/sanitize? This isn't a
> normal practice of mine, I'm usually very punctual on cleaning but my move
> is hurried and I've been packing boxes, etc. all week.
A thorough cleaning should be fine. You can use bleach if you really want
to, but I think PBW/StarSan would be plenty if that is what you normally
use. As someone else mentioned, it may be a bit tricky to clean out
the tubing, depending on what size it is. It might be easier to just
replace it than it would be to clean it.
John.
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