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Date: 08 Dec 2006 12:32:01
From: Gerard Eberlein
Subject: Mkae Beer In 10 Minutes LMAO
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http://losangeles.craigslist.org/ant/hsh/243222053.html
Enjoy a good laugh.
Gerard
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Date: 08 Dec 2006 23:53:15
From: Wayne
Subject: Re: Mkae Beer In 10 Minutes LMAO
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On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 23:48:24 +0000, Wayne wrote:
> On our beer tour of London last year (details on my homepage) my drinking
> fried and I ordered half a pint. It took us over half an hour to drink it
> between us. It was putrid, vile stuff! I don't know how they have the
> cheek to call it a beer, let alone an IPA! The officials at GK should be
> taken out and hanged, drawn and quartered for what they've done to some
> once drinkable British beers!
Umm, caffeine injection hasn't taken effect properly yet. That
should be "friend" not "fried" Although it could be "fried friend"
More probably "freezing friend" I wonder what it's like in Chicago?
:-)
Need more coffee.... mornings are..... :-(
Wayne
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Registered Linux user #375994
http://www.geocities.jp/rondonko/
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Date: 08 Dec 2006 23:48:24
From: Wayne
Subject: Re: Mkae Beer In 10 Minutes LMAO
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On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 23:38:47 +0000, Andy Davison wrote:
>> Funny the "IPA" has the lowest Alcohol content compared to the "Bitter"
>> and the "Lager".
>
> That's because it's a British thing and IPAs here are low alcohol these
> days. Greene King IPA is the best selling one (basic bog standard session
> beer that I avoid) and Deuchars IPA is the best of the bunch (very nice
> beer but not a real IPA) and both of these are under 4% ABV.
Greene King IPA is cat's pee filtered through the carcass of a rat.
On our beer tour of London last year (details on my homepage) my
drinking fried and I ordered half a pint. It took us over half
an hour to drink it between us. It was putrid, vile stuff! I don't know
how they have the cheek to call it a beer, let alone an IPA! The officials
at GK should be taken out and hanged, drawn and quartered for what they've
done to some once drinkable British beers!
Wayne
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Registered Linux user #375994
http://www.geocities.jp/rondonko/
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Date: 08 Dec 2006 23:43:41
From: Wayne
Subject: Re: Mkae Beer In 10 Minutes LMAO
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On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 18:25:08 +0000, stephen wrote:
> "No sterilising(sic)!"
The spelling looks perfectly fine to me, as well as does "Flavour"
Other than that, I wouldn't touch the contraption with someone
else's 10-foot bargepole!
Wayne
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Registered Linux user #375994
http://www.geocities.jp/rondonko/
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Date: 11 Dec 2006 19:35:29
From: stephen
Subject: Re: Mkae Beer In 10 Minutes LMAO
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Wayne wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 18:25:08 +0000, stephen wrote:
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>> "No sterilising(sic)!"
>
> The spelling looks perfectly fine to me, as well as does "Flavour"
Flavour looks fine to me as well... oops, not in my email client, wrong
dictionary. Of course in the states the spelling is wrong (well
according to this american dictionary) and it was posted to the LA
craigslist.
>
> Other than that, I wouldn't touch the contraption with someone
> else's 10-foot bargepole!
>
> Wayne
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Date: 08 Dec 2006 12:56:25
From: Matt
Subject: Re: Mkae Beer In 10 Minutes LMAO
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Funny the "IPA" has the lowest Alcohol content compared to the "Bitter"
and the "Lager".
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Date: 08 Dec 2006 23:38:47
From: Andy Davison
Subject: Re: Mkae Beer In 10 Minutes LMAO
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On Friday 08 December 2006 20:56, Matt wrote:
> Funny the "IPA" has the lowest Alcohol content compared to the "Bitter"
> and the "Lager".
That's because it's a British thing and IPAs here are low alcohol these
days. Greene King IPA is the best selling one (basic bog standard session
beer that I avoid) and Deuchars IPA is the best of the bunch (very nice
beer but not a real IPA) and both of these are under 4% ABV.
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Andy Davison
andy [at] oiyou [dot] ukfsn [dot] org
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Date: 08 Dec 2006 18:54:19
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Mkae Beer In 10 Minutes LMAO
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On Fri, 8 Dec 2006 12:32:01 -0500, <dormouse@charter.net > wrote:
> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/ant/hsh/243222053.html
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> Enjoy a good laugh.
Cool! $60 for a 1.5 gallon bucket and some prehopped DME. Where do I
sign up?
John.
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Date: 08 Dec 2006 19:57:04
From: John Bleichert
Subject: Re: Mkae Beer In 10 Minutes LMAO
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John 'Shaggy' Kolesar <spam@shagg.net > wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Dec 2006 12:32:01 -0500, <dormouse@charter.net> wrote:
>> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/ant/hsh/243222053.html
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>> Enjoy a good laugh.
>
> Cool! $60 for a 1.5 gallon bucket and some prehopped DME. Where do I
> sign up?
>
>
> John.
I'll send it all to you for $45 and I'll eat the shipping cost.
-----------------------------------------------
John Bleichert syborg@earthlink.net
The heat from below can burn your eyes out!!
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Date: 08 Dec 2006 18:25:08
From: stephen
Subject: Re: Mkae Beer In 10 Minutes LMAO
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"No sterilising(sic)!"
Wow, I bet that tastes good. Every beer is a lambic. Maybe the theory is
that your are drinking it so quickly that it won't go bad :D.
I shouldn't make fun of that though. I don't sterilise (or sterilize)
either and my beer is fine. I do spend a lot of time sanitizing though ;D.
Gerard Eberlein wrote:
> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/ant/hsh/243222053.html
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> Enjoy a good laugh.
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> Gerard
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Date: 08 Dec 2006 23:44:42
From: Andy Davison
Subject: Re: Mkae Beer In 10 Minutes LMAO
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On Friday 08 December 2006 18:25, stephen wrote:
> "No sterilising(sic)!"
>
> Wow, I bet that tastes good. Every beer is a lambic. Maybe the theory is
> that your are drinking it so quickly that it won't go bad :D.
>
> I shouldn't make fun of that though. I don't sterilise (or sterilize)
> either and my beer is fine. I do spend a lot of time sanitizing though ;D.
I got given one of these once. The beer is not very good but is not lambic
by any means. You mix up a hopped DME with water in the plastic bottle the
DME comes in then wash the bottle out several times to get the volume
required and add the yeast (labelled "Miracle Ingredient X" - I kid you
not). Inside that plastic container is a plastic bag with an integral tap
which gets junked after each brew so the interior of the plastic container
never touches the beer. It makes 10 Imp pints which is why it takes so
little time to do.
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Andy Davison
andy [at] oiyou [dot] ukfsn [dot] org
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Date: 11 Dec 2006 19:47:12
From: stephen
Subject: Re: Mkae Beer In 10 Minutes LMAO
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Andy Davison wrote:
> On Friday 08 December 2006 18:25, stephen wrote:
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>> "No sterilising(sic)!"
>>
>> Wow, I bet that tastes good. Every beer is a lambic. Maybe the theory is
>> that your are drinking it so quickly that it won't go bad :D.
>>
>> I shouldn't make fun of that though. I don't sterilise (or sterilize)
>> either and my beer is fine. I do spend a lot of time sanitizing though ;D.
>
> I got given one of these once. The beer is not very good but is not lambic
> by any means. You mix up a hopped DME with water in the plastic bottle the
> DME comes in then wash the bottle out several times to get the volume
> required and add the yeast (labelled "Miracle Ingredient X" - I kid you
> not). Inside that plastic container is a plastic bag with an integral tap
> which gets junked after each brew so the interior of the plastic container
> never touches the beer. It makes 10 Imp pints which is why it takes so
> little time to do.
Thanks, that's interesting to know. I have used food grade plastic bags
in my primary before to ease cleanup. I do spray them with some
iodophore for safety sake though (they are theoretically sanitary, but
i'm not really into theory these days, I'm more into applied sanitation).
5 litres of beer eh. That would be a small container of DME. I assume
there isn't separate sugar added for priming, it's just sealed and the
primary fermentation takes care of the alcohol formation and the
carbonation. Well it certainly is simple. I do have to question the
"Miracle Ingredient X" aspect though. Are they trying to mystify beer
making so people are stuck using their system? I don't get it. I can
just imagine walking into your LHBS and asking for some beer powder and
"miracle ingredient x".
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Date: 11 Dec 2006 19:59:30
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Mkae Beer In 10 Minutes LMAO
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On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:47:12 GMT, <newssteve@shaw.ca > wrote:
> I do have to question the
> "Miracle Ingredient X" aspect though. Are they trying to mystify beer
> making so people are stuck using their system? I don't get it.
Given the downright criminal price they're charging for the product, I'd
have to assume that's exactly what they're hoping will happen. The last
thing they want is an educated customer, because such a customer would
quickly realize what a scam this is.
John.
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Date: 12 Dec 2006 09:34:27
From: Andy Davison
Subject: Re: Mkae Beer In 10 Minutes LMAO
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On Monday 11 December 2006 19:47, stephen wrote:
> I do have to question the
> "Miracle Ingredient X" aspect though. Are they trying to mystify beer
> making so people are stuck using their system? I don't get it.
The kit is marketed in the UK by the Miracle Beer Company, hence the
'miracle' bit. TBH it's not aimed at experienced homebrewers and is
marketed as a bit of fun. I know at least one person who was given one and
it made him look into the difficulty or otherwise of doing things properly
and he now brews full mash.
--
Andy Davison
andy [at] oiyou [dot] ukfsn [dot] org
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Date: 13 Dec 2006 04:26:12
From: stephen
Subject: Re: Mkae Beer In 10 Minutes LMAO
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Andy Davison wrote:
> On Monday 11 December 2006 19:47, stephen wrote:
>
>> I do have to question the
>> "Miracle Ingredient X" aspect though. Are they trying to mystify beer
>> making so people are stuck using their system? I don't get it.
>
> The kit is marketed in the UK by the Miracle Beer Company, hence the
> 'miracle' bit. TBH it's not aimed at experienced homebrewers and is
> marketed as a bit of fun. I know at least one person who was given one and
> it made him look into the difficulty or otherwise of doing things properly
> and he now brews full mash.
Well you can't complain if it is an entry point for new brewers. I
assume the beer is palatable, otherwise many would stop with that kit. I
do agree with "shaggy" that it is overpriced. For $60 US someone here
(west coast canada) could get a full starter kit (plastic primary, glass
carboy, hyrometer etc) with a brewhouse kit for that much, and it would
make 23 litres of decent tasting beer (I question the flavour of a
non-boil dme kit). Of course the coopers brand full starter kit are more
than that locally iirc, and they don't have a secondary.. so maybe not
that overpriced. I'm sure someone finds something in a grocery store or
costco a lot more accessible than a lhbs, which is a pity since most hbs
are not intimidating at all and are more than happy to help someone
get into brewing (ymmv).
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Date: 13 Dec 2006 19:51:39
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Mkae Beer In 10 Minutes LMAO
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On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 09:34:27 +0000, <andydvsn@yahoo.co.uk > wrote:
> On Monday 11 December 2006 19:47, stephen wrote:
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>> I do have to question the
>> "Miracle Ingredient X" aspect though. Are they trying to mystify beer
>> making so people are stuck using their system? I don't get it.
>
> The kit is marketed in the UK by the Miracle Beer Company, hence the
> 'miracle' bit. TBH it's not aimed at experienced homebrewers and is
> marketed as a bit of fun. I know at least one person who was given one and
> it made him look into the difficulty or otherwise of doing things properly
> and he now brews full mash.
Sounds like the UK version of a "Mr Beer" kit. What is the price over
there like? Are we just paying a rediculous amount for it in the US
because of the import costs?
John.
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Date: 15 Dec 2006 09:42:36
From: Andy Davison
Subject: Re: Mkae Beer In 10 Minutes LMAO
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On Wednesday 13 December 2006 19:51, John 'Shaggy' Kolesar wrote:
> Sounds like the UK version of a "Mr Beer" kit. What is the price over
> there like? Are we just paying a rediculous amount for it in the US
> because of the import costs?
Can't remember. It isn't worth what they charge though. The higher price
over there could be a combination of import costs and the low value of the
dollar at the moment.
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Andy Davison
andy [at] oiyou [dot] ukfsn [dot] org
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Date: 08 Dec 2006 21:21:00
From: Bart Goddard
Subject: Re: Mkae Beer In 10 Minutes LMAO
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newssteve@shaw.ca wrote:
> "No sterilising(sic)!"
Well, to be fair, the "Miracle Powder" includes, not only
malt, hops and yeast, but also idophor and B-Brite. It's
an all-in-one powder, after all.
Bart
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The man without a .sig
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Date: 09 Dec 2006 07:53:08
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: Mkae Beer In 10 Minutes LMAO
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Gerard Eberlein <dormouse@charter.net > wrote:
> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/ant/hsh/243222053.html
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> Enjoy a good laugh.
My copy did not include the price so I just snickered. The
extra time to boli DME is de minimus even on my small electric
stove, not to mention you do not boil pre-hopped LME anyway.
If you don't do a mini-mash or steep grains, the flavor has to
come from magic enchantments or devine intervention.
This one makes Mr. Beer look like a big step up.
P. T. Barhum was obviously correct.
Dick - A condescending brew guy
===
The last time I went to Chicago my brother popped for tickets
to a White Sox game (the only major league team east of the
Mississippi River and west of Detroit). It was a pleasure to
see he no longer drank American Swill.
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Date: 09 Dec 2006 12:01:20
From:
Subject: Re: Mkae Beer In 10 Minutes LMAO
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Wayne wrote:
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> Greene King IPA is cat's pee filtered through the carcass of a rat.
>
That good, huh? ;)
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Date: 09 Dec 2006 09:31:43
From: MarkMc
Subject: Re: Mkae Beer In 10 Minutes LMAO
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Wayne wrote:
> Greene King IPA is cat's pee filtered through the carcass of a rat.
>
> On our beer tour of London last year (details on my homepage) my
> drinking fried and I ordered half a pint. It took us over half
> an hour to drink it between us. It was putrid, vile stuff! I don't know
> how they have the cheek to call it a beer, let alone an IPA! The officials
> at GK should be taken out and hanged, drawn and quartered for what they've
> done to some once drinkable British beers!
I agree that GK IPA is generally pretty poor. However I have a very
good pub locally, which always has several cask beers on tap, and they
are always well kept. I was amazed when I tried a GK IPA there on
cask, it was actually a very nice ale, but it's no IPA.
GK IPA actually won best in the IIRC Best bitter category of the GBBF
(great british beer festival) a couple of years ago. There was uproar
from the crowd!
I'm sounding like a GK fan, believe me I'm not, I think if it's well
treated, it can be quite good, but usually (sad indicator of the state
of UK pubs these days) it is not due to bad cellarmanship.
Cheers,
Mark
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Date: 11 Dec 2006 02:52:27
From: Andy Davison
Subject: Re: Mkae Beer In 10 Minutes LMAO
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On Saturday 09 December 2006 17:31, MarkMc wrote:
> GK IPA actually won best in the IIRC Best bitter category of the GBBF
> (great british beer festival) a couple of years ago. There was uproar
> from the crowd!
The crowd being mainly licencees (it was the trade session after all).
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Andy Davison
andy [at] oiyou [dot] ukfsn [dot] org
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