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Date: 14 Oct 2006 04:40:52
From: Stoutman
Subject: Liquid Volume of Dry and Liquid Malt Extracts
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I've been looking for a way to determine what the liquid volume of a given
weight of either Dry or Liquid malt extracts are.
Say for instance, I have a 6 lbs. of DME or LME and I want to have a 5
gallon boil. I want to put the amount of water I'll need into the pot and
bring it to a boil. Then add the extract and have roughly 5 gallons. I
know I'll lose a little water due to evaporation as it comes to aa boil,
I'm not worried about that part. But what I don't want to do, is bring my
water to a boil, add the extract, and then add more water to bring the
level up to 5 gallons. And I don't want to just place the extract inside
it's container into a vessel of water and note the difference. I'm looking
for a mathematical conversion between weight and volume.
Obviously the weight:volume ratio is going to be different for DME versus
LME so I'm really looking for both formulas.
There are some smart peeps in here so I figured this would be the place to
ask. Also, I may be taking the more difficult approach, so feel free to
point out the easier and likely more obvious solution that I always seem to
miss. :)
TIA
~S~
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Date: 14 Oct 2006 09:32:02
From: Mark R
Subject: Re: Liquid Volume of Dry and Liquid Malt Extracts
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"Stoutman" <jynnxt@g..nospam..mail.com > wrote in message
news:Xns985BDC8501082jynnxtgmailcom@199.45.49.11...
> I've been looking for a way to determine what the liquid volume of a given
> weight of either Dry or Liquid malt extracts are.
>
> Say for instance, I have a 6 lbs. of DME or LME and I want to have a 5
> gallon boil. I want to put the amount of water I'll need into the pot and
> bring it to a boil. Then add the extract and have roughly 5 gallons. I
> know I'll lose a little water due to evaporation as it comes to aa boil,
> I'm not worried about that part. But what I don't want to do, is bring my
> water to a boil, add the extract, and then add more water to bring the
> level up to 5 gallons. And I don't want to just place the extract inside
> it's container into a vessel of water and note the difference. I'm
looking
> for a mathematical conversion between weight and volume.
>
> Obviously the weight:volume ratio is going to be different for DME versus
> LME so I'm really looking for both formulas.
>
> There are some smart peeps in here so I figured this would be the place to
> ask. Also, I may be taking the more difficult approach, so feel free to
> point out the easier and likely more obvious solution that I always seem
to
> miss. :)
You already said you don't want to take the easy route. What's wrong with
having to top off with another half gallon of water after you've added the
extract? I do partial boils and top off the fermenter. Works for me.
Work backwards with the LME. Before you added the LME to the boil mark the
level on the outside of the bucket. After you've emptied the bucket and
cleaned it out add water up to your mark and you'll have the volume for LME.
Divide volume water by lbs of LME and you'll have your answer?
DME is close to 4/5 LME by weight and PPG. I'd guess that it would be
similar in volume too. 5 quarts LME equals 4 quarts DME.
Mark R
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Date: 14 Oct 2006 14:54:51
From: Dan Listermann
Subject: Re: Liquid Volume of Dry and Liquid Malt Extracts
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To measure LME by volume, you will find that it is about 11 fluid ounces per
pound. Three cups ( 24 fluid ounces) of DME usually make a pound.
Now in solution with water, this is all different. Extract from both DME
and LME, displace about 17 inches cubed per pound which is 9.4 fluid ounces.
With DME this is direct however with LME you need to account for the water
content which is usually 20%. So one pound of LME only displaces 7.5 fluid
ounces of water volume.
I hope this helps!
Dan
"Stoutman" <jynnxt@g..nospam..mail.com > wrote in message
news:Xns985BDC8501082jynnxtgmailcom@199.45.49.11...
> I've been looking for a way to determine what the liquid volume of a given
> weight of either Dry or Liquid malt extracts are.
>
> Say for instance, I have a 6 lbs. of DME or LME and I want to have a 5
> gallon boil. I want to put the amount of water I'll need into the pot and
> bring it to a boil. Then add the extract and have roughly 5 gallons. I
> know I'll lose a little water due to evaporation as it comes to aa boil,
> I'm not worried about that part. But what I don't want to do, is bring my
> water to a boil, add the extract, and then add more water to bring the
> level up to 5 gallons. And I don't want to just place the extract inside
> it's container into a vessel of water and note the difference. I'm
> looking
> for a mathematical conversion between weight and volume.
>
> Obviously the weight:volume ratio is going to be different for DME versus
> LME so I'm really looking for both formulas.
>
> There are some smart peeps in here so I figured this would be the place to
> ask. Also, I may be taking the more difficult approach, so feel free to
> point out the easier and likely more obvious solution that I always seem
> to
> miss. :)
>
> TIA
>
> ~S~
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Date: 15 Oct 2006 21:15:45
From: Stoutman
Subject: Re: Liquid Volume of Dry and Liquid Malt Extracts
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This is precisely what I was looking for. Of course, I sucked at
explaining what I was looking for but you saw through that. :)
Thanks Dan!
"Dan Listermann" <dan@listermann.com > wrote in
news:12j2eopopsf9sd4@corp.supernews.com:
> To measure LME by volume, you will find that it is about 11 fluid
> ounces per pound. Three cups ( 24 fluid ounces) of DME usually make a
> pound.
>
> Now in solution with water, this is all different. Extract from both
> DME and LME, displace about 17 inches cubed per pound which is 9.4
> fluid ounces. With DME this is direct however with LME you need to
> account for the water content which is usually 20%. So one pound of
> LME only displaces 7.5 fluid ounces of water volume.
>
> I hope this helps!
>
> Dan
> "Stoutman" <jynnxt@g..nospam..mail.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns985BDC8501082jynnxtgmailcom@199.45.49.11...
>> I've been looking for a way to determine what the liquid volume of a
>> given weight of either Dry or Liquid malt extracts are.
>>
>> Say for instance, I have a 6 lbs. of DME or LME and I want to have a
>> 5 gallon boil. I want to put the amount of water I'll need into the
>> pot and bring it to a boil. Then add the extract and have roughly 5
>> gallons. I know I'll lose a little water due to evaporation as it
>> comes to aa boil, I'm not worried about that part. But what I don't
>> want to do, is bring my water to a boil, add the extract, and then
>> add more water to bring the level up to 5 gallons. And I don't want
>> to just place the extract inside it's container into a vessel of
>> water and note the difference. I'm looking
>> for a mathematical conversion between weight and volume.
>>
>> Obviously the weight:volume ratio is going to be different for DME
>> versus LME so I'm really looking for both formulas.
>>
>> There are some smart peeps in here so I figured this would be the
>> place to ask. Also, I may be taking the more difficult approach, so
>> feel free to point out the easier and likely more obvious solution
>> that I always seem to
>> miss. :)
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> ~S~
>
>
>
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 16:08:39
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Liquid Volume of Dry and Liquid Malt Extracts
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On Sat, 14 2006 04:40:52 GMT, <jynnxt@g > wrote:
> But what I don't want to do, is bring my water to a boil, add the extract,
> and then add more water to bring the level up to 5 gallons.
Why not? I don't see any problems with doing it that way.
John.
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Date: 19 Oct 2006 04:51:15
From: Stoutman
Subject: Re: Liquid Volume of Dry and Liquid Malt Extracts
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John 'Shaggy' Kolesar <spam@shagg.net > wrote in
news:slrnej7brr.7d8.spam@weizen.shagg.net:
> On Sat, 14 2006 04:40:52 GMT, <jynnxt@g> wrote:
>> But what I don't want to do, is bring my water to a boil, add the
>> extract, and then add more water to bring the level up to 5 gallons.
>
> Why not? I don't see any problems with doing it that way.
>
>
> John.
>
I'm anal about the strangest things. ;) That and it allows me to plan
out in more detail what I'm going to do/need ahead of time.
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