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Date: 05 Dec 2006 23:29:22
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Keg posts
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I always thought (which means I didn't know) that the keg in & out
posts for ball valves were different from each other AND that grey
disconnects only fit on in-posts and black only fit on out-posts.
So to my surprise as I removed the disconnect from the post of a
newly filled keg tonight, beer flowed out with it. I had put the
CO2 disconnect on the out-post.
Very fortunately this happened out of sight of my childbride and it
was cleaned up before she came downstairs. I do not want this to
happen again. So I want to know if there is a protocol for ball
vavles. It is obvious that grey disconnects are for intake and black
are for outflow. But what about the posts? One has a star wheel at
the bottom - should it be in or out?
Dick
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Date: 05 Dec 2006 20:41:44
From: Dan Logcher
Subject: Re: Keg posts
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Dick Adams wrote:
> I always thought (which means I didn't know) that the keg in & out
> posts for ball valves were different from each other AND that grey
> disconnects only fit on in-posts and black only fit on out-posts.
> So to my surprise as I removed the disconnect from the post of a
> newly filled keg tonight, beer flowed out with it. I had put the
> CO2 disconnect on the out-post.
Grey fits on the OUT but the Black does not fit on the IN.
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Dan
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 08:54:48
From: The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty
Subject: Re: Keg posts
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Dan Logcher wrote:
> Dick Adams wrote:
>
>> I always thought (which means I didn't know) that the keg in & out
>> posts for ball valves were different from each other AND that grey
>> disconnects only fit on in-posts and black only fit on out-posts.
>> So to my surprise as I removed the disconnect from the post of a newly
>> filled keg tonight, beer flowed out with it. I had put the CO2
>> disconnect on the out-post.
>
> Grey fits on the OUT but the Black does not fit on the IN.
>
But on some kegs, Grey can get really badly stuck on OUT, which can
really suck. That's the nice thing about pin-locks. Of course, I only
have one pin lock and like 9 ball locks.
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 13:31:44
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: Keg posts
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Dan Logcher <dlogcher*xspam*@comcast.net > wrote:
> Dick Adams wrote:
>> I always thought (which means I didn't know) that the keg in & out
>> posts for ball valves were different from each other AND that grey
>> disconnects only fit on in-posts and black only fit on out-posts.
>> So to my surprise as I removed the disconnect from the post of a
>> newly filled keg tonight, beer flowed out with it. I had put the
>> CO2 disconnect on the out-post.
> Grey fits on the OUT but the Black does not fit on the IN.
Makes sense now, thanks
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 10:11:04
From: Dan Logcher
Subject: Re: Keg posts
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Dick Adams wrote:
> Dan Logcher <dlogcher*xspam*@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Dick Adams wrote:
>
>
>>>I always thought (which means I didn't know) that the keg in & out
>>>posts for ball valves were different from each other AND that grey
>>>disconnects only fit on in-posts and black only fit on out-posts.
>>>So to my surprise as I removed the disconnect from the post of a
>>>newly filled keg tonight, beer flowed out with it. I had put the
>>>CO2 disconnect on the out-post.
>
>
>>Grey fits on the OUT but the Black does not fit on the IN.
>
>
> Makes sense now, thanks
If you're keg doesn't have IN and OUT enscribed on it, you might
want to change the color of the o-rings to make it more obvious.
Speaking of o-rings, are keg o-rings and different than regular
ones? Are they food grade or something? Are they Ethylene-Propylene?
--
Dan
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Date: 05 Dec 2006 23:34:17
From: Chris Kuether
Subject: Re: Keg posts
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Dick Adams wrote:
> I always thought (which means I didn't know) that the keg in & out
> posts for ball valves were different from each other AND that grey
> disconnects only fit on in-posts and black only fit on out-posts.
> So to my surprise as I removed the disconnect from the post of a
> newly filled keg tonight, beer flowed out with it. I had put the
> CO2 disconnect on the out-post.
>
> Very fortunately this happened out of sight of my childbride and it
> was cleaned up before she came downstairs. I do not want this to
> happen again. So I want to know if there is a protocol for ball
> vavles. It is obvious that grey disconnects are for intake and black
> are for outflow. But what about the posts? One has a star wheel at
> the bottom - should it be in or out?
>
> Dick
In by twelve, out by six. They're close to the same, but different enough.
clk
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 16:20:29
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Keg posts
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On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 23:29:22 -0000, <rdadams@smart.net > wrote:
> I always thought (which means I didn't know) that the keg in & out
> posts for ball valves were different from each other AND that grey
> disconnects only fit on in-posts and black only fit on out-posts.
> So to my surprise as I removed the disconnect from the post of a
> newly filled keg tonight, beer flowed out with it. I had put the
> CO2 disconnect on the out-post.
My understanding is that the difference is usually in the size of
the post. The large QD (can't remember which is which regarding gas vs
liquid) will fit over both posts, but the smaller QD will only fit on
the small post (or at least you've got to really force it on the larger
post and then it gets stuck).
> Very fortunately this happened out of sight of my childbride and it
> was cleaned up before she came downstairs. I do not want this to
> happen again. So I want to know if there is a protocol for ball
> vavles. It is obvious that grey disconnects are for intake and black
> are for outflow. But what about the posts? One has a star wheel at
> the bottom - should it be in or out?
Sorry, can't help with that. I use pin-lock kegs. Two pins = gas,
three pins = liquid. It's impossible to get those mixed up (QDs will
definitely not fit on the wrong post).
John.
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 09:35:29
From: Carter Cathey
Subject: Re: Keg posts
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I have a few kegs that are marked with "in" and "out" and I have a few that
have different shaped nuts at the base as you describe. The star wheel is
one and I also have one with notches cut in the corners (hard to describe),
but regardless, the gas in side is always different in some way. The liquid
out side usually has a normal looking nut at the base.
Carter
"Dick Adams" <rdadams@smart.net > wrote in message
news:12nc06i309hn9ec@corp.supernews.com...
>I always thought (which means I didn't know) that the keg in & out
> posts for ball valves were different from each other AND that grey
> disconnects only fit on in-posts and black only fit on out-posts.
> So to my surprise as I removed the disconnect from the post of a
> newly filled keg tonight, beer flowed out with it. I had put the
> CO2 disconnect on the out-post.
>
> Very fortunately this happened out of sight of my childbride and it
> was cleaned up before she came downstairs. I do not want this to
> happen again. So I want to know if there is a protocol for ball
> vavles. It is obvious that grey disconnects are for intake and black
> are for outflow. But what about the posts? One has a star wheel at
> the bottom - should it be in or out?
>
> Dick
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 16:25:40
From: Joel
Subject: Re: Keg posts
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Carter Cathey <cartercathey@comcast.net > wrote:
>I have a few kegs that are marked with "in" and "out" and I have a few that
>have different shaped nuts at the base as you describe. The star wheel is
>one and I also have one with notches cut in the corners (hard to describe),
>but regardless, the gas in side is always different in some way.
The size of the flange that secures the bearings on a
ball-lock post is different between the in and out-- one of
them is bigger (I *think* the liquid out is bigger, but
would have to check!). Take a look at the posts next time
you have a chance and you'll see what I mean.
--
Joel Plutchak
"Things just fall apart." - Now They'll Sleep (Belly)
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 18:04:34
From: Scott Sellers
Subject: Re: Keg posts
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Joel <plutchak@see.headers >:
>Carter Cathey <cartercathey@comcast.net> wrote:
>>I have a few kegs that are marked with "in" and "out" and I
>>have a few that have different shaped nuts at the base as you
>>describe. The star wheel is one and I also have one with
>>notches cut in the corners (hard to describe), but regardless,
>>the gas in side is always different in some way.
> The size of the flange that secures the bearings on a
>ball-lock post is different between the in and out-- one of them
>is bigger (I *think* the liquid out is bigger, but would have to
>check!). Take a look at the posts next time you have a chance
>and you'll see what I mean.
I was gonna mention this. It is the liquid out with the larger
ridge. Also, on my kegs, the posts are oriented with gas on the
right, liquid on the left (looking 'up' towards the relief
valve). I keep it simple by orienting the kegs in the kegerator
accordingly, gas always on the same side.
Scott S
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Scott Sellers
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 19:13:34
From: alebrewer
Subject: Re: Keg posts
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Dan Logcher wrote:
> George wrote:
> > Dick Adams wrote:
> > But what about the posts? One has a star wheel at
> >
> >> the bottom - should it be in or out?
> >>
> > I currently have 11 kegs at home, eight are mine and three are rentals
> > that belong to the local Pepsi distributor. There is a complete mix of
> > large hex, small hex and star shaped posts. Several of the kegs have
> > two different styles on a single keg. The only consistent feature
> > common to ALL of the kegs is that the gas in post has a very shallow
> > groove cut into the corners of the hex/star. Has anybody found an
> > exception to this?
> > It is possible to fit the smaller QD onto the larger post. For me this
> > has always been an "Ah, shit!" moment as I immediately realize what I
> > have done and how frustrating it can be to correct the situation.
>
> Rented from Pepsi? Hmmm, I wonder if there's any local Pepsi or Coke
> plants that have kegs sitting around.
>
> --
> Dan
I'm sure there are. AFAIK, the corny keg is still the container of
choice for the commercial distribution of PreMix product. That is, the
actual soda and not just the syrup. In the olden days, both PreMix and
syrup were distributed in corny kegs. But, the the bag-in-box has
replaced the corny for the syrup (which is probably the overwhelming
majority of the sales) which is why so many used kegs are on the
market. They will probably still use the corny keg for PreMix for many
years to come, since it must be carnonated to something like 5 volumes
and the bags just won't hold that pressure.
ab
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 11:53:07
From: George
Subject: Re: Keg posts
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Dick Adams wrote:
But what about the posts? One has a star wheel at
> the bottom - should it be in or out?
>
I currently have 11 kegs at home, eight are mine and three are rentals
that belong to the local Pepsi distributor. There is a complete mix of
large hex, small hex and star shaped posts. Several of the kegs have
two different styles on a single keg. The only consistent feature
common to ALL of the kegs is that the gas in post has a very shallow
groove cut into the corners of the hex/star. Has anybody found an
exception to this?
It is possible to fit the smaller QD onto the larger post. For me this
has always been an "Ah, shit!" moment as I immediately realize what I
have done and how frustrating it can be to correct the situation.
George
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 15:17:16
From: Dan Logcher
Subject: Re: Keg posts
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George wrote:
> Dick Adams wrote:
> But what about the posts? One has a star wheel at
>
>> the bottom - should it be in or out?
>>
> I currently have 11 kegs at home, eight are mine and three are rentals
> that belong to the local Pepsi distributor. There is a complete mix of
> large hex, small hex and star shaped posts. Several of the kegs have
> two different styles on a single keg. The only consistent feature
> common to ALL of the kegs is that the gas in post has a very shallow
> groove cut into the corners of the hex/star. Has anybody found an
> exception to this?
> It is possible to fit the smaller QD onto the larger post. For me this
> has always been an "Ah, shit!" moment as I immediately realize what I
> have done and how frustrating it can be to correct the situation.
Rented from Pepsi? Hmmm, I wonder if there's any local Pepsi or Coke
plants that have kegs sitting around.
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Dan
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Date: 07 Dec 2006 12:52:07
From: George
Subject: Re: Keg posts
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Dan Logcher wrote:
> Rented from Pepsi? Hmmm, I wonder if there's any local Pepsi or Coke
> plants that have kegs sitting around.
>
I see Pepsi delivery trucks with a few cornie kegs in them quite often
so I assume there must still be a significant market for kegged product.
The local Pepsi bottler/distributor will not sell to the public but they
are the ones who gave me the business card of the "event specialist"
that I buy from.
George
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