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Date: 19 Nov 2006 20:26:09
From: ActiveX
Subject: How to use rye
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I've been cleaning out all of my old grains, yeast and other brewing supplies
and found 2# of rye. My goal is to make a "garbage pale ale" using rye as a
center piece. How many #'s of rye should I use in a 10 gal batch? Can I
treat the rye as if it were a 2-row PA malt and mash it as usual?
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 09:27:33
From: Denny Conn
Subject: Re: How to use rye
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ActiveX wrote:
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> I've been cleaning out all of my old grains, yeast and other brewing supplies
> and found 2# of rye. My goal is to make a "garbage pale ale" using rye as a
> center piece. How many #'s of rye should I use in a 10 gal batch? Can I
> treat the rye as if it were a 2-row PA malt and mash it as usual?
Assuming it's rye malt, replace base grain in the recipe with it and
mash as normal. Typically, you need to use about 15% of your total
grist as rye for it to have a noticeable effect. I don't think a couple
lb. in 10 gal. will get you there, so expect a more subtle rye
presence.
----------- >Denny
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Life begins at 60...1.060, that is.
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 18:01:44
From: stephen
Subject: Re: How to use rye
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Denny Conn wrote:
> ActiveX wrote:
>> I've been cleaning out all of my old grains, yeast and other brewing supplies
>> and found 2# of rye. My goal is to make a "garbage pale ale" using rye as a
>> center piece. How many #'s of rye should I use in a 10 gal batch? Can I
>> treat the rye as if it were a 2-row PA malt and mash it as usual?
>
> Assuming it's rye malt, replace base grain in the recipe with it and
> mash as normal. Typically, you need to use about 15% of your total
> grist as rye for it to have a noticeable effect. I don't think a couple
> lb. in 10 gal. will get you there, so expect a more subtle rye
> presence.
>
> ----------->Denny
> --
> Life begins at 60...1.060, that is.
Glad you responded.
My response was jut going to be "Ask Denny Conn". :D
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Date: 22 Nov 2006 17:20:32
From: ActiveX
Subject: Re: How to use rye
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"Denny Conn" <denny.g.conn@ci.eugene.or.us > wrote in message
news:4561E585.7710B723@ci.eugene.or.us...
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 06:55:22
From: Todd K.
Subject: Re: How to use rye
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Sean wrote:
> ActiveX wrote:
> > I've been cleaning out all of my old grains, yeast and other brewing supplies
> > and found 2# of rye. My goal is to make a "garbage pale ale" using rye as a
> > center piece. How many #'s of rye should I use in a 10 gal batch? Can I
> > treat the rye as if it were a 2-row PA malt and mash it as usual?
> >
> > ----->ActiveX
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> Is it rye malt or just rye? If it is just rye then you will need to do
> a cereal mash or some such treatment to convert the starch. If it is
> rye _malt_ , then mash as usual with other mashable malts.
>
>
I'm not sure a cereal mash is really necessary for rye. I spent an
exhaustive morning last week searching the net for any info on
gelatinization temperature of rye. I finally found it here:
http://www.aaccnet.org/cerealchemistry/backissues/1991/68_172.pdf
Says here gel temp of rye is 55-60C. Similar to wheat . Compare this
to barley at 61-62C. Just crush it and throw it in with your diastatic
malt.
Todd K.
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 20:03:38
From: Sean
Subject: Re: How to use rye
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ActiveX wrote:
> I've been cleaning out all of my old grains, yeast and other brewing supplies
> and found 2# of rye. My goal is to make a "garbage pale ale" using rye as a
> center piece. How many #'s of rye should I use in a 10 gal batch? Can I
> treat the rye as if it were a 2-row PA malt and mash it as usual?
>
> ----->ActiveX
Is it rye malt or just rye? If it is just rye then you will need to do
a cereal mash or some such treatment to convert the starch. If it is
rye _malt_ , then mash as usual with other mashable malts.
Two pounds over ten gallons won't amount to much.
Ping Mr. Conn for rye info.......... very helpful in this regard.
HTH,
Sean
(Looking forward to doing this myself over the holidays)
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