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Date: 12 Jul 2006 23:00:01
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HOMEBREW Digest #5030 Wed 12 July 2006
FORUM ON BEER, HOMEBREWING, AND RELATED ISSUES
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Contents:
Traffic, etc ("Peed, John")
Video on Siebel Institute ("Lemcke, Keith")
Fixing carbonation in a bottled beer (Scott Alfter)
Re: Wichita Kansas area home brew clubs (Jim Eberhardt)
Lambic Brewing in San Fransico Bay Area (Mike Sharp)
ORDER ENQUIRY######################### (alesh kunle)
Scottsdale water ("A.J deLange")
classically ravine ("Debra Barrett")
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 14:27:44 -0700
From: "Peed, John" <jpeed at elotouch.com >
Subject: Traffic, etc
Greg asks if HBD has become obsolete. I don't see why - traffic has
slowed, but it certainly hasn't stopped. There are lots more
alternatives lately so naturally HBD won't get as much traffic as it got
when it was practically the only game in town.
Gotta disagree with Oogie on the temp distribution of RIMS systems -
they're pretty darn good at maintaining an evenly distributed, constant
temperature (assuming good design).
Strawberry yogurt? Sounds like poor serving line maintenance. It
oughtta be a crime to do that to beer ...
John Peed
Oak Ridge, TN
Peed's Wicket Alery
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 17:27:38 -0400
From: "Lemcke, Keith" <klemcke at siebelinstitute.com >
Subject: Video on Siebel Institute
We get a lot of homebrewers inquiring about our school and our brewing
courses, so I thought I would let homebrewers know that there is now a
7-minute video documentary about Siebel Institute on YouTube.com that
covers the history of our school, information about our campuses & host
cities, and other stuff. You can link directly to the video presentation
by visiting the site at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Iwe0JYBw9I
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Iwe0JYBw9I > . I hope you enjoy it!
Keith Lemcke
Siebel Institute of Technology
Advanced Homebrewing Course
July 24 - 28, 2006
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 15:38:06 -0700
From: Scott Alfter <scott at alfter.us >
Subject: Fixing carbonation in a bottled beer
Earlier this year, I bottled a wee heavy that had been sitting in secondary
for a good long time. Knowing the yeast had most likely fallen out, I put a
sprinkle of dry yeast in each bottle along with a carbonation drop.
One month after bottling, the wee heavy was still flat. Figuring that it's
a big beer, I gave it some more time.
A few days ago, I popped another wee heavy. It's still flat.
This morning, I had a brain-fart that might be a possible fix, and I figured
I'd run it by the people here to see if it's reasonable or if I should try
something else:
1) Flush a sanitized corny keg with carbon dioxide.
2) Empty each bottle into the keg, keeping the mouth of the bottle inside
the keg.
3) Close up the keg, throw it in the kegerator, and force-carbonate it.
4) Bottle with a counter-pressure filler (optional).
I'm thinking that carbon dioxide, being heavier than air, will sit in the
keg as long as it's level. This should maintain an oxygen-free environment
inside the keg. If the mouth of the bottle is held inside the keg, exposure
to oxygen should be minimized. Therefore, it shouldn't matter if the beer
splashes on the way to the bottom of the keg. As the keg fills up, the
carbon dioxide will float on top and will be pushed out the top.
Does the above sound reasonable, or should I try something else? I've fixed
carbonation problems before by just adding more yeast, but since that's
already not worked, I don't know if it's worth giving that another shot.
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(IIGS( http://alfter.us/ Top-posting!
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 18:26:43 -0500
From: Jim Eberhardt <jim at jacysplace.com >
Subject: Re: Wichita Kansas area home brew clubs
Jake Lowen wrote:
>
> My friend and I who are both home brewers would like to get connected
> to the larger homebrew community in or around Wichita, KS. I have
> heard that there may be a club in Hutchinson, and I've seen
> information on a Derby Brew Club, but I can't seem to find contact
> information for them.
>
> Can anyone connect me with home brew clubs in South Central Kansas?
>
Jake,
I don't know about Hutchinson, but Derby Brew Club has a web site
(derbybrewclub.org) with contact, meeting and club information on it.
If you call or email Rick he'll gladly let you know about the next
meeting or answer any questions you have.
Sorry for the delay in replying but I'm just getting caught up on my
digests
Jim Eberhardt
Wichita, KS
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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 19:51:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mike Sharp <mike_sharp at pacbell.net >
Subject: Lambic Brewing in San Fransico Bay Area
Hi,
I'm looking for other brewers in the San Francisco Bay
Area (or perhaps slightly farther afield) that are
interested in making Belgian Lambics.
I'm relocating to another part of CA and that has
presented some interesting opportunities for local
lambic brewers.
Please contact me off-line.
--Mike
(the *long* ago founder of Lambic Digest)
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:42:49 -0700 (PDT)
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 21:53:46 +0000
From: "A.J deLange" <ajdel at cox.net >
Subject: Scottsdale water
The current water quality report (2006) for Scottsdale can be downloaded
from http://www.scottsdaleaz.gov/water/Quality/default.asp though I
don't think you will find the data too useful as hardness, for example,
is stated to range over 2 orders of magnitude (2 to over 200 ppm). If
this is accurate (and since the range of calcium levels is less than 2
orders of magnitude it can't be) implies that while the water is
sometimes very hard it is sometimes very soft. I would advise obtaining
a hardness test kit a measuring from time to time to see if you can
detect a seasonal (or other) pattern for help in planning brews.
Passage of hard water through a carbon filter will have no effect on its
hardness but a Brita filter is not just a carbon filter. It also
contains ion exchange resins which will pull out hardness. The amount
removed depends mostly on the contact time. Passing the water through
the filter multiple times will remove more hardness at each pass.
A Brita filter is probably not the best way to remove hardness from
brewing water. Removing hardness is not, in general, something you want
to do anyway. Removing bicarbonate is something you do want to do and
this can be done by heating the water to boiling and letting it stand or
treating it with lime. Several brewing books and the HBD archives will
tell you the details.
A.J.
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 22:22:48 -0400
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Subject: Discriminated against? Free book, 170 pages on fundraising for your stigmatized cause. Go to http://black-sheep-library.com, download it for free, read it, tell everyone.
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End of HOMEBREW Digest #5030, 07/12/06
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Date: 13 Jul 2006 03:20:51
From: Eric Scantlebury
Subject: Re: Rainwater
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"Dan Logcher" <dlogcher*xspam*@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:44b5b1e0$0$564$b45e6eb0@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu...
> Jram wrote:
>> What are the groups thoughts on brewing with rainwater. The pH of the
>> water
>> I have collected looks to be around 5 which strikes me as a good mash pH.
>> What would rainwater be like to use for the liquor? I would think it
>> would
>> be too soft for some styles but don't know enough about it. We have more
>> than enough rain in northeast Ohio these days and I hate to waste it!
>
> Most houses on Bermuda are equipped to catch rainwater for drinking.
> Anyone from Bermuda here? How's your beer?
I'm new to brewing, but my first question would be what type of roof are you
collecting it off of. I would imagine an asphalt roof would not taste so
good. I had to collect water as a young boy because our well would run dry.
I would rather drink p*ss then water collected off an asphault roof. (ok,
not really, but I'm just trying to make a point). :-) I would imagine that
if you had a terracotta roof of some sort and boiled it prior to making beer
it might be ok.
Keep in mind I'm a newbee though. LOL!
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Date: 12 Jul 2006 23:32:28
From: PJ
Subject: Re: Rainwater
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"Eric Scantlebury" <Eric_Scantlebury@verizon.net > wrote in message
news:n_itg.4409$5T1.3736@trndny09...
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> "Dan Logcher" <dlogcher*xspam*@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:44b5b1e0$0$564$b45e6eb0@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu...
>> Jram wrote:
>>> What are the groups thoughts on brewing with rainwater. The pH of the
>>> water
>>> I have collected looks to be around 5 which strikes me as a good mash
>>> pH.
>>> What would rainwater be like to use for the liquor? I would think it
>>> would
>>> be too soft for some styles but don't know enough about it. We have
>>> more
>>> than enough rain in northeast Ohio these days and I hate to waste it!
>>
>> Most houses on Bermuda are equipped to catch rainwater for drinking.
>> Anyone from Bermuda here? How's your beer?
>
> I'm new to brewing, but my first question would be what type of roof are
> you collecting it off of. I would imagine an asphalt roof would not taste
> so good. I had to collect water as a young boy because our well would run
> dry. I would rather drink p*ss then water collected off an asphault roof.
> (ok, not really, but I'm just trying to make a point). :-) I would
> imagine that if you had a terracotta roof of some sort and boiled it prior
> to making beer it might be ok.
>
> Keep in mind I'm a newbee though. LOL!
RIGHT ON...!!
You got to the 'nut' of the problem. PLUS there is the deal of the 'first'
20 minutes of a rain fall where all of the crap (pollen, dust, exhaust
chemicals, etc. etc.) gets washed out of the air.
Hmmmmm.....
Sounds really good to make a beer with..
On the other hand - filter that water really well and you are good to go.
(RO filter)
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Date: 13 Jul 2006 09:05:14
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse
Subject: Re: Rainwater
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Eric Scantlebury <Eric_Scantlebury@verizon.net > wrote:
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> I'm new to brewing, but my first question would be what type of roof are you
> collecting it off of. I would imagine an asphalt roof would not taste so
> good. I had to collect water as a young boy because our well would run dry.
> I would rather drink p*ss then water collected off an asphault roof. (ok,
> not really, but I'm just trying to make a point). :-) I would imagine that
> if you had a terracotta roof of some sort and boiled it prior to making beer
> it might be ok.
>
I am sure that with all the rain they have had out there, if he were to just
collect the rain water after the first few minutes of rainfall, that the water
would be running pretty clean. It is not like there is months of buildup
being rinsed off at this point.
--
Thomas T. Veldhouse
Key Fingerprint: 2DB9 813F F510 82C2 E1AE 34D0 D69D 1EDC D5EC AED1
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