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Date: 26 Jul 2006 09:32:28
From: brian@yahoo.com
Subject: First AG brew - a Kolsch - First tastes
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I brewed a Kolsch about a month ago and it was my first All Grain beer.
The recipe was quite simple:
9 lb. American 2-row
.5 lb. Wheat malt
1 lb. American Munich 10L
.8 oz. Perle (8% AA, 60 min.)
.5 oz. Perle (8% AA, 5 min.)
Wyeast Kolsch yeast
I mashed the grains at 148F for 60 minutes and then did a batch sparge
at about 160F.
OG was 1.047 and FG is 1.009 reulting in about 5% alcohol.
Fermented 1 week in primary @ 60F.
Spent 2 weeks in secondary (1 week at 60F, 1 week at 38F)
I kegged it this past weekend and it is carbonating. I tried some last
night and it was very lightly carbonated so far. Overall I'm surprised
that it is fairly sweet. I was shooting for a fairly dry finish, but
it has a distinctly sweet flavor. I'm going to let it go for another
week of lagering/carbonating before passing any judgement on it, but I
am curious about the sweetness. What are your opinions on this? Could
it be from the Munich? Should the mash temp have been lower to produce
less sweet beer? Is it a characteristic of the yeast? My FG was
pretty low so I though it would have been drier. Maybe it just needs
the bite of more carbonation to round it out.
Overall I'm extremely pleased with the beer. There really is a
difference between extract and AG!!! None of that extract twang. Nice
clean flavor! Between doing it AG and having a fridge to ferment/lager
in it is almost as clean tasting as a lager.
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Date: 27 Jul 2006 15:12:50
From: neal
Subject: Re: First AG brew - a Kolsch - First tastes
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An FG of 1.009 is a 'dry' beer! Could it be that you are confusing the
esters and winey flavors produced by this yeast with sweetness? I
could understand complaints of sweetness if you were between 1.016+
....
Taste it along side a Budwiser or similar dry/tasteless lager and a
sweet english pale ale and compare.
FYI: WYeast 1010 is from PJ Fruh in Cologne, and is really a Kolsch
yeast. Try your
beer again with this yeast for comparison.
brian@yahoo.com wrote:
> I brewed a Kolsch about a month ago and it was my first All Grain beer.
> The recipe was quite simple:
>
> 9 lb. American 2-row
> .5 lb. Wheat malt
> 1 lb. American Munich 10L
> .8 oz. Perle (8% AA, 60 min.)
> .5 oz. Perle (8% AA, 5 min.)
> Wyeast Kolsch yeast
>
> I mashed the grains at 148F for 60 minutes and then did a batch sparge
> at about 160F.
> OG was 1.047 and FG is 1.009 reulting in about 5% alcohol.
> Fermented 1 week in primary @ 60F.
> Spent 2 weeks in secondary (1 week at 60F, 1 week at 38F)
>
> I kegged it this past weekend and it is carbonating. I tried some last
> night and it was very lightly carbonated so far. Overall I'm surprised
> that it is fairly sweet. I was shooting for a fairly dry finish, but
> it has a distinctly sweet flavor. I'm going to let it go for another
> week of lagering/carbonating before passing any judgement on it, but I
> am curious about the sweetness. What are your opinions on this? Could
> it be from the Munich? Should the mash temp have been lower to produce
> less sweet beer? Is it a characteristic of the yeast? My FG was
> pretty low so I though it would have been drier. Maybe it just needs
> the bite of more carbonation to round it out.
>
> Overall I'm extremely pleased with the beer. There really is a
> difference between extract and AG!!! None of that extract twang. Nice
> clean flavor! Between doing it AG and having a fridge to ferment/lager
> in it is almost as clean tasting as a lager.
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Date: 28 Jul 2006 00:39:16
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: First AG brew - a Kolsch - First tastes
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On 27 Jul 2006 15:12:50 -0700, <nrichter@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> An FG of 1.009 is a 'dry' beer! Could it be that you are confusing the
> esters and winey flavors produced by this yeast with sweetness? I
> could understand complaints of sweetness if you were between 1.016+
> ....
Sweet/bitter is a balance thing though. The FG is fairly low, but on the
other hand they only used .8oz of bittering hops. What IBU does that work
out to?
John.
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Date: 28 Jul 2006 05:19:38
From: brian@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: First AG brew - a Kolsch - First tastes
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neal wrote:
> John 'Shaggy' Kolesar wrote:
> >
> > Sweet/bitter is a balance thing though. The FG is fairly low, but on the
> > other hand they only used .8oz of bittering hops. What IBU does that work
> > out to?
>
> About 25 IBU... good for a Kolsch. Seems like a 1.009 @ 25 IBUs
> would be a very nice beer! Good Job!
>
> Neal Wrote:
> >FYI: WYeast 1010 is from PJ Fruh in Cologne,
>
> Duh.. wrong brewery. Wyeast 1010 is supposedly from Paeffgen. WLP029
> is supposedly from PJ Fruh. Both in Cologne.
Thanks for the comments. It tastes very good, just I was expecting a
dryer finish based on the mash temp and the FG. Its by no means too
sweet or a major issue, just a little unexpected. I'm thinking its the
yeast character. Its got a little while to lager yet so we'll see what
happens to the flavor.
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Date: 28 Jul 2006 15:09:58
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: First AG brew - a Kolsch - First tastes
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On 28 Jul 2006 05:19:38 -0700, <brian.sico@gmail.com > wrote:
> Thanks for the comments. It tastes very good, just I was expecting a
> dryer finish based on the mash temp and the FG. Its by no means too
> sweet or a major issue, just a little unexpected. I'm thinking its the
> yeast character. Its got a little while to lager yet so we'll see what
> happens to the flavor.
I forget if you mentioned it, but did you carbonate before lagering or is
it still in a bucket/carboy? Carbonation will change the flavor profile
as well.
John.
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Date: 27 Jul 2006 21:09:08
From: neal
Subject: Re: First AG brew - a Kolsch - First tastes
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John 'Shaggy' Kolesar wrote:
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> Sweet/bitter is a balance thing though. The FG is fairly low, but on the
> other hand they only used .8oz of bittering hops. What IBU does that work
> out to?
About 25 IBU... good for a Kolsch. Seems like a 1.009 @ 25 IBUs
would be a very nice beer! Good Job!
Neal Wrote:
>FYI: WYeast 1010 is from PJ Fruh in Cologne,
Duh.. wrong brewery. Wyeast 1010 is supposedly from Paeffgen. WLP029
is supposedly from PJ Fruh. Both in Cologne.
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