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Date: 24 May 2006 15:12:42
From: Gerard Eberlein
Subject: Fermentation temperatures


.....one thing I'm finding out about brewing is everyone has a different
view on what is best. In this case fermentation. I've been told that
pitching is fine at 71-72 F and then keep the room at 70 to 71 F is fine.
Others tell me to pitch at 72 then move it to a cooler spot, like 65-66.
Still others say don't pitch unless below 70 and keep it in a 65 deree temp
right off the bat. I have 3 floors and 3 temps. in my house. 74, which is
too high, 71 which is the lowest temp my girlfriend can handle (she guilts
me by putting on a blanket and looking cold) and about 64degrees downstairs
( the A/C blower is in the spare room, so it can go as low as 62 degrees)
I'm not mashing yet, but would like to in the future. I don't want all these
esters and fusols I keep reading about. I'm open to any and all suggestions
(except "ditch the girlfriend", which I'm sure one of you will come up with,
LOL.) Thanx in advance.
Gerard






 
Date: 25 May 2006 00:30:24
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: Fermentation temperatures


Gerard Eberlein <dormouse@charter.net > wrote:

> .....one thing I'm finding out about brewing is everyone has a different
> view on what is best. In this case fermentation. I've been told that
> pitching is fine at 71-72 F and then keep the room at 70 to 71 F is fine.
> Others tell me to pitch at 72 then move it to a cooler spot, like 65-66.
> Still others say don't pitch unless below 70 and keep it in a 65 deree temp
> right off the bat. I have 3 floors and 3 temps. in my house. 74, which is
> too high, 71 which is the lowest temp my girlfriend can handle (she guilts
> me by putting on a blanket and looking cold) and about 64degrees downstairs
> (the A/C blower is in the spare room, so it can go as low as 62 degrees)
> I'm not mashing yet, but would like to in the future. I don't want all these
> esters and fusols I keep reading about. I'm open to any and all suggestions
> (except "ditch the girlfriend", which I'm sure one of you will come up with,
> LOL.)

Do not ditch the girlfriend. Gullible women you like are hard to
find and expensive to nurture.

Get a fermentation fridge! I ferment ale and mead at 59F to 68F,
but I pitch at room temperature usually 70F to 75F

I got my fermentation fridge, a standup freezer, ceiling fans,
a chandelier, trivets, and more at FreeCycle.org for free.

I paid $250 for an almost new LazyBoy Recliner at Craigslist.org.
Sometimes Craigslist may have free stuff you need.

Freecycle is better because they have groups by sections of cities,
by suburbs, and by counties.

Dick


 
Date: 24 May 2006 15:39:38
From: MDixon
Subject: Re: Fermentation temperatures



Gerard Eberlein <dormouse@charter.net > wrote in message
news:Me2dg.31$6F7.13@fe03.lga...
> .....one thing I'm finding out about brewing is everyone has a different
> view on what is best. In this case fermentation. I've been told that
> pitching is fine at 71-72 F and then keep the room at 70 to 71 F is fine.

Wrong...the fermentation can cause the temp of the fermenter to rise as much
at 10ºF, if the room was 70ºF then you would be fermenting at 80ºF which
would make for quite an estery beer with most ales...

> Others tell me to pitch at 72 then move it to a cooler spot, like 65-66.


Better...

> Still others say don't pitch unless below 70 and keep it in a 65 deree
temp
> right off the bat.

Kinda ok...though not ideal...

I have 3 floors and 3 temps. in my house. 74, which is
> too high, 71 which is the lowest temp my girlfriend can handle (she guilts
> me by putting on a blanket and looking cold) and about 64degrees
downstairs
> ( the A/C blower is in the spare room, so it can go as low as 62 degrees)

Go for this one for most ales...use the 74ºF for the Saisons...the best
thing to do is to monitor the temp of the fermenter and change the ambient
temp to keep the fermenter at the optimum temp for the yeast you are using
and the style you are making. Since this isn't an option, I'd go for the
lower level.

Cheers,
Mike





 
Date: 25 May 2006 14:19:42
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Fermentation temperatures


On Wed, 24 May 2006 15:12:42 -0400, <dormouse@charter.net > wrote:
> .....one thing I'm finding out about brewing is everyone has a different
> view on what is best. In this case fermentation. I've been told that
> pitching is fine at 71-72 F and then keep the room at 70 to 71 F is fine.
> Others tell me to pitch at 72 then move it to a cooler spot, like 65-66.

Both of these will result in esters/fusels. Yeast produce more by-products
the warmer they are. IMO, you will get the best quality by keeping your
fermentations below 70F (unless you specifically want the by-products for
certain styles).

> Still others say don't pitch unless below 70 and keep it in a 65 deree temp
> right off the bat.

This sounds ideal.

> I have 3 floors and 3 temps. in my house. 74, which is
> too high, 71 which is the lowest temp my girlfriend can handle (she guilts
> me by putting on a blanket and looking cold) and about 64degrees downstairs
> ( the A/C blower is in the spare room, so it can go as low as 62 degrees)

IMO, 64F downstairs is perfect. I'd do your fermentation there.

> I'm not mashing yet, but would like to in the future. I don't want all these
> esters and fusols I keep reading about.

Then definitely keep the temps below 70F.


John.


  
Date: 01 Jun 2006 10:11:58
From: Gerard Eberlein
Subject: Re: Fermentation temperatures



About how much time will the 62 degree room add to my fermentation? At the
current ambient temp of 70 degrees it takes about 7 days. Thanx in advance.

Gerard




   
Date: 01 Jun 2006 08:57:34
From: Denny Conn
Subject: Re: Fermentation temperatures


Gerard Eberlein wrote:
>
> About how much time will the 62 degree room add to my fermentation? At the
> current ambient temp of 70 degrees it takes about 7 days. Thanx in advance.

There's really no accurate way to estimate this. The beer makes it's
own schedule...it's done when it's done!

------------ >Denny

--
Life begins at 60...1.060, that is.


   
Date: 01 Jun 2006 14:23:33
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Fermentation temperatures


On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 10:11:58 -0400, <dormouse@charter.net > wrote:
>
> About how much time will the 62 degree room add to my fermentation? At the
> current ambient temp of 70 degrees it takes about 7 days. Thanx in advance.

Probably a couple days. Keep in mnd that two different beers at the same temp
may take different amounts of time to ferment. There is a lot more to it
than just the ambient room temp.


John.