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Date: 01 Oct 2006 16:14:04
From: TARogue
Subject: Fermentation Question


I made an American IPA brew using:
9.9 lbs Light LME
2 oz UK Kent Goldings Whole Leaf hops (FWH)
1 oz UK Kent Goldings Whole Leaf hops (20 min)
1 oz UK Kent Goldings Whole Leaf hops (40 min)
1 oz UK Kent Goldings Whole Leaf hops (55 min)
1 oz UK Kent Goldings Whole Leaf hops (flame out)
EasYeast American Ale yeast

I brought 6.5 gallons of water to boil; turned off the heat; added the
LME and stirred like a madman then added the first 2 oz of hops. I then
let it sit and steep for 15 min. I re-lit the burner andd restored the
boil. After the hot break I started the 60 min count.

After 60 minutes I turned of the burner and added the last oz of hops,
covered the pot and let it sit while I ate dinner. 55 minutes later I
started the wort chiller (wort temp was still 95°). Starting gravity was
1.066 @ 66° I forgot to whirlpool when I racked to the primary ferment
bucket. I didn't top off with water, so my final volume was about 4.5
gallons. The yeast was EasYeast American Ale yeast. Pitched and
stirred/aerated like a madman.

This was all done on 23 September. I was going to rack to secondary, but
I still have activity in the bubbler about every 15 seconds.

Finally my question: should I just rack to secondary and let it finish
up there?

Thanks in advance!
Tom

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Date: 01 Oct 2006 19:07:24
From: David M. Taylor
Subject: Re: Fermentation Question


"TARogue" <look@my.sig > wrote in message
news:slrnehvqab.ral.look@littlefear.outhaus...
>
> Finally my question: should I just rack to secondary and let it finish
> up there?

It makes no difference, rack now, rack later, it sounds like fermentation is
almost done, so it probably won't make much of a difference. There's really
no advantage to racking until fermentation is complete, unless it is more
convenient for you to do it earlier for some reason. IMHO, it makes more
sense to rack and perhaps cool down the beer for a while to help settle out
the yeast after the fermentation is 100% finished. But it really doesn't
matter much if you do it now or later if you're not going to change the
temperature at all.

--
Dave
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Genesis, 1973-ish




 
Date: 01 Oct 2006 23:42:54
From: mike vore
Subject: Re: Fermentation Question


TARogue wrote:
> I made an American IPA brew using:
> 9.9 lbs Light LME
> 2 oz UK Kent Goldings Whole Leaf hops (FWH)
> 1 oz UK Kent Goldings Whole Leaf hops (20 min)
> 1 oz UK Kent Goldings Whole Leaf hops (40 min)
> 1 oz UK Kent Goldings Whole Leaf hops (55 min)
> 1 oz UK Kent Goldings Whole Leaf hops (flame out)
> EasYeast American Ale yeast
>
> I brought 6.5 gallons of water to boil; turned off the heat; added the
> LME and stirred like a madman then added the first 2 oz of hops. I then
> let it sit and steep for 15 min. I re-lit the burner andd restored the
> boil. After the hot break I started the 60 min count.
>
> After 60 minutes I turned of the burner and added the last oz of hops,
> covered the pot and let it sit while I ate dinner. 55 minutes later I
> started the wort chiller (wort temp was still 95°). Starting gravity was
> 1.066 @ 66° I forgot to whirlpool when I racked to the primary ferment
> bucket. I didn't top off with water, so my final volume was about 4.5
> gallons. The yeast was EasYeast American Ale yeast. Pitched and
> stirred/aerated like a madman.
>
> This was all done on 23 September. I was going to rack to secondary, but
> I still have activity in the bubbler about every 15 seconds.
>
> Finally my question: should I just rack to secondary and let it finish
> up there?

I'd wait a couple more days or even a week. But racking now wouldn't hurt it,
just get it off more of the trub you didn't whirlpool off. It will continue to
ferment and have bubbler activity in the secondary, but more yeast in the
bottom when you rack to the bottling bucket. Your one mistake was to let it
sit warm while covered. You might have some DMS, so I have heard, but I don't
know what it tastes/smells like.



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Date: 02 Oct 2006 15:15:29
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Fermentation Question


On Sun, 1 2006 16:14:04 +0000 (UTC), <look@my.sig > wrote:
> This was all done on 23 September. I was going to rack to secondary, but
> I still have activity in the bubbler about every 15 seconds.
>
> Finally my question: should I just rack to secondary and let it finish
> up there?

The timing of when to rack to secondary is not critical. IMO, go ahead and
rack now if you want. It's really up to you. The timing of when to bottle
is where you want to get picky.


John.


 
Date: 02 Oct 2006 10:21:16
From: JS
Subject: Re: Fermentation Question


On Sun, 1 2006 16:14:04 +0000 (UTC), TARogue <look@my.sig > wrote:

>I made an American IPA brew using:
> 9.9 lbs Light LME
> 2 oz UK Kent Goldings Whole Leaf hops (FWH)
> 1 oz UK Kent Goldings Whole Leaf hops (20 min)
> 1 oz UK Kent Goldings Whole Leaf hops (40 min)
> 1 oz UK Kent Goldings Whole Leaf hops (55 min)
> 1 oz UK Kent Goldings Whole Leaf hops (flame out)
> EasYeast American Ale yeast
>
>I brought 6.5 gallons of water to boil; turned off the heat; added the
>LME and stirred like a madman then added the first 2 oz of hops. I then
>let it sit and steep for 15 min. I re-lit the burner andd restored the
>boil. After the hot break I started the 60 min count.
>
I'm just curious why you bothered with the oz. for 20 mins. Seems the
2ozs FWH would have done all that and more.

Also, how could it be an American IPA with EKG hops? I would think
Cascade, Centennial, or Chinook would have lent it more an American
flavor. Yours sounds more British.

John S.

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Date: 02 Oct 2006 15:55:54
From: TARogue
Subject: Re: Fermentation Question


On Mon, 02 2006 10:21:16 -0400, JS < > wrote:
> On Sun, 1 2006 16:14:04 +0000 (UTC), TARogue <look@my.sig> wrote:
>
>>I made an American IPA brew using:
>> 9.9 lbs Light LME
>> 2 oz UK Kent Goldings Whole Leaf hops (FWH)
>> 1 oz UK Kent Goldings Whole Leaf hops (20 min)
>> 1 oz UK Kent Goldings Whole Leaf hops (40 min)
>> 1 oz UK Kent Goldings Whole Leaf hops (55 min)
>> 1 oz UK Kent Goldings Whole Leaf hops (flame out)
>> EasYeast American Ale yeast
>>
>>I brought 6.5 gallons of water to boil; turned off the heat; added the
>>LME and stirred like a madman then added the first 2 oz of hops. I then
>>let it sit and steep for 15 min. I re-lit the burner andd restored the
>>boil. After the hot break I started the 60 min count.
>>
> I'm just curious why you bothered with the oz. for 20 mins. Seems the
> 2ozs FWH would have done all that and more.
>
I like hops.

> Also, how could it be an American IPA with EKG hops? I would think
> Cascade, Centennial, or Chinook would have lent it more an American
> flavor. Yours sounds more British.
>
Mine is too hoppy to be a regular (British) IPA, but not hoppy enough
to be a Double-IPA or Imperial-IPA.

Tom

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Date: 02 Oct 2006 12:24:49
From: alebrewer
Subject: Re: Fermentation Question



TARogue wrote:
> I made an American IPA brew using:
<snip... >
> Finally my question: should I just rack to secondary and let it finish
> up there?
>

I always try to rack to the secondary as soon as I can. Usually, this
means as soon as the fermentation has settled down enough that I don't
have to worry about the krausen blowing through the airlock (three to
seven days, although the time may vary). I do this so I can remove the
fermenting beer from the trub as soon as I can and so that any oxygen
introduced by the racking will be metabolized by the yeast before it
can oxidize the product.

ab