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Date: 09 Aug 2006 15:53:31
From: Peter L. Berghold
Subject: Electric pumps...
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I've seen any number of electric pumps out there for moving wort around.
All of them seem to run in the $100-$150 range. The limiting factors
being of course they need to be food grade and need to be able to
tolerate temps = > 250F.
That being said: what pumps are folks using out there?
My soon to be built design calls for two pumps. One that will do double
duty circulating mash through my heat exchanger (I'm design a HERMS
system) as well as moving hot liquor around during the sparge cycle.
The other pump is going to be used during the sparge cycle to move the
wort from the mash/lauter tun to the boiler and thence from the boiler
to the fermenter (someday I'll have a conical... someday....) after the
boil.
Thoughts anybody?
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Date: 09 Aug 2006 18:11:04
From: Jeff
Subject: Re: Electric pumps...
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John 'Shaggy' Kolesar wrote:
> This is the one I would probably recommend:
> http://morebeer.com/product.html?product_id=17311
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> I've got the same one, but with a brass housing instead of plastic. I don't
> think they make the brass one anymore though.
My LHBS still sells the March bronze model, but I have not seen it
online anywhere. I ended up purchasing it from them. They, by default,
sell the low RPM model and swear by it. I tried it and returned it
after trying everything to make it work - it just cavitated too easy
and only worked under perfect conditions. They were happy to replace it
with the high RPM model (like the one John linked to, but with a bronze
head). It works perfect.
If you are interested, the LHBS has a website
http://www.homebrewing.org - not a good website, mind you - you'll have
to call to get info on the pump, but they do sell stuff online.
--Jeff
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Date: 10 Aug 2006 01:22:27
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Electric pumps...
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On 9 Aug 2006 18:11:04 -0700, <jjhenze@gmail.com > wrote:
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> John 'Shaggy' Kolesar wrote:
>
>> This is the one I would probably recommend:
>> http://morebeer.com/product.html?product_id=17311
>>
>> I've got the same one, but with a brass housing instead of plastic. I don't
>> think they make the brass one anymore though.
>
> My LHBS still sells the March bronze model, but I have not seen it
> online anywhere. I ended up purchasing it from them. They, by default,
> sell the low RPM model and swear by it. I tried it and returned it
> after trying everything to make it work - it just cavitated too easy
> and only worked under perfect conditions. They were happy to replace it
> with the high RPM model (like the one John linked to, but with a bronze
> head). It works perfect.
Maybe it's just morebeer that doesn't carry the bronze one anymore then.
John.
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Date: 10 Aug 2006 22:40:08
From: rjwhite6
Subject: Re: Electric pumps...
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I have the high temp magnetic drive march pump talked about here and
the 140 degree max temp self priming Shurflo pump (also found at B3).
The Shurflo pump is great for the lower temp beer, wine and
cleaning/sanitizing moving. Make sure that you use the reinforced
tubing because it will suck lesser tubing flat and you will get little
throughput -- found that out the hard way.
The march pump is more temperamental than I would like. It isn't as
easy starting as I would like. Even though I always give it a good
help from gravity it is prone to air locking. I would love to find a
self priming pump in the same temperature and size range but have not
found one yet.
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Date: 09 Aug 2006 20:15:51
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Electric pumps...
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On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 15:53:31 -0400, <peter@berghold.net > wrote:
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> I've seen any number of electric pumps out there for moving wort around.
> All of them seem to run in the $100-$150 range. The limiting factors
> being of course they need to be food grade and need to be able to
> tolerate temps => 250F.
>
> That being said: what pumps are folks using out there?
>
> My soon to be built design calls for two pumps. One that will do double
> duty circulating mash through my heat exchanger (I'm design a HERMS
> system) as well as moving hot liquor around during the sparge cycle.
> The other pump is going to be used during the sparge cycle to move the
> wort from the mash/lauter tun to the boiler and thence from the boiler
> to the fermenter (someday I'll have a conical... someday....) after the
> boil.
>
> Thoughts anybody?
March brand seems to be the most popular. That's what many of the LHBS
or online stores sell. It comes in several different configurations,
depending on what you want. IMO, that'd be a good brand to look out for.
This is the one I would probably recommend:
http://morebeer.com/product.html?product_id=17311
I've got the same one, but with a brass housing instead of plastic. I don't
think they make the brass one anymore though.
John.
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Date: 09 Aug 2006 15:05:58
From: Richard Kaszeta
Subject: Re: Electric pumps...
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"Peter L. Berghold" <peter@berghold.net > writes:
> I've seen any number of electric pumps out there for moving wort around.
> All of them seem to run in the $100-$150 range. The limiting factors
> being of course they need to be food grade and need to be able to
> tolerate temps => 250F.
Actually, most brewers I know use gravity feed systems for hot wort,
and use pumps when it's cooled down (usually a March Magnetics pump,
which need some head anyway, since they aren't self-priming). IF you
can deal with the non-self-priming aspect, the bronze head version of
the March 809 pump works rather well.
> That being said: what pumps are folks using out there?
I use a Cole Parmer positive displacement pump (Cole-Parmer is a
reseller, so I'd have to pry the label off to find out who makes it).
It can handle hot wort, but I usually just gravity feed at the wort
stage, and use the pump as a transfer pump.
--
Richard W Kaszeta
rich@kaszeta.org
http://www.kaszeta.org/rich
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