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Date: 07 Aug 2006 15:35:45
From: Jim
Subject: Electric Burner


You can get the cheap electric burners at Walmart for $10. Anyone ever
used one of these for partial grain brewing?

Jim




 
Date: 07 Aug 2006 17:52:22
From: Craig Bennett
Subject: Re: Electric Burner


Im just a kit brewer - and use one of those small plug in burners in my
basement for boiling water.

It's OK for relatively small quanties - takes about 45mins to 1 hour to
bring 8L (a little over 2 gals) to a boil, which is OK for brewing kits - I
usually set it on, while I clean/sanitize fermenter etc.

Cant see it being much use in the all grain realm, but then that's
(currently) beyond my knowledge.

Craig B.



"Jim" <Jim@no.com > wrote in message
news:fCMBg.511$vj1.305@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
> You can get the cheap electric burners at Walmart for $10. Anyone ever
> used one of these for partial grain brewing?
>
> Jim




 
Date: 07 Aug 2006 14:49:43
From: alebrewer
Subject: Re: Electric Burner



Jim wrote:
> You can get the cheap electric burners at Walmart for $10. Anyone ever
> used one of these for partial grain brewing?
>
> Jim

You need to look at the wattage rating on electric burners. If you are
talking about a unit that you can plug into a wall outlet, I think
you'll find that you are limited to 1500 watts for 110 volt house
wiring (US code).

5115-The number of BTU put out by a 1500 watt burner in 1 Hour.
2557-The number of BTU transferred to your water with a heat
transfer coefficent of 0.5
2640-The number of BTU needed to heat 20 Lbs of water from
from 80 deg F to 212 deg F

So, if you are trying to heat 2.5 gal and you lose as much heat to the
surroundings as you put into your water, it's going to take over an
hour. It wouldn't surprise me if it took longer.

ab



  
Date: 07 Aug 2006 18:34:56
From: Jim
Subject: Re: Electric Burner


alebrewer wrote on 8/7/2006 5:49 PM:
> Jim wrote:
>> You can get the cheap electric burners at Walmart for $10. Anyone ever
>> used one of these for partial grain brewing?
>>
>> Jim
>
> You need to look at the wattage rating on electric burners. If you are
> talking about a unit that you can plug into a wall outlet, I think
> you'll find that you are limited to 1500 watts for 110 volt house
> wiring (US code).
>
> 5115-The number of BTU put out by a 1500 watt burner in 1 Hour.
> 2557-The number of BTU transferred to your water with a heat
> transfer coefficent of 0.5
> 2640-The number of BTU needed to heat 20 Lbs of water from
> from 80 deg F to 212 deg F
>
> So, if you are trying to heat 2.5 gal and you lose as much heat to the
> surroundings as you put into your water, it's going to take over an
> hour. It wouldn't surprise me if it took longer.
>
> ab
>
Now THAT is an answer!! Thanks.

I was surprised initially by the number of techies in brewing. However,
it does make sense. I would expect to see more star wars references tho. :)

I am more of a LOTR nerd than Star Wars. Bring it!! :)

Jim


   
Date: 08 Aug 2006 10:17:42
From: Gerard Eberlein
Subject: Re: Electric Burner



"Jim" <Jim@no.com > wrote in message
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> alebrewer wrote on 8/7/2006 5:49 PM:
> > Jim wrote:
> I am more of a LOTR nerd than Star Wars. Bring it!! :)
>
> Jim

LMAO...If you want to see a funny debate about LOTR vs. Star Wars go see the
new movie "Clerks 2". The whole debate is about 1/4th of the movie, if you
haven't seen it already :)

Gerard




 
Date: 07 Aug 2006 19:47:36
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Electric Burner


On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 15:35:45 -0400, <Jim@no.com > wrote:
> You can get the cheap electric burners at Walmart for $10. Anyone ever
> used one of these for partial grain brewing?

Does it give any information about what BTUs it puts out? Back when I
started brewing, I made an extract batch or two in my college dorm room.
There was no kitchen, so I used a plugin electric burner. It worked, but
even though I was only boiling a couple gallons it took forever. The
heat output of the thing was relatively low. That'd be my main concern
about using one again. Assuming you're talking about something similar
to what I used, it's going to be impractical for boiling anything more
than a gallon or two.


John.


  
Date: 08 Aug 2006 17:30:53
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Electric Burner


On 7 Aug 2006 19:47:36 GMT, <spam@shagg.net > wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 15:35:45 -0400, <Jim@no.com> wrote:
>> You can get the cheap electric burners at Walmart for $10. Anyone ever
>> used one of these for partial grain brewing?
>
> Does it give any information about what BTUs it puts out? Back when I
> started brewing, I made an extract batch or two in my college dorm room.
> There was no kitchen, so I used a plugin electric burner. It worked, but
> even though I was only boiling a couple gallons it took forever. The
> heat output of the thing was relatively low. That'd be my main concern
> about using one again. Assuming you're talking about something similar
> to what I used, it's going to be impractical for boiling anything more
> than a gallon or two.

FWIW, I was talking about an electric hotplate. If you're talking
about something else then ignore what I said.


John.