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Date: 27 Nov 2006 18:41:49
From: spleenminus@yahoo.com
Subject: Effects of adding fruit in secondary on alchohol content.
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Hi,
I tend to add a lot of fruit and sometimes other sugar to my brews in
secondary. I assume that those sugars add alchohol, but i was
wondering how drastic the effects are. for instance I added 96 oz of
cherries in syrup to 5 gal of beer tonight. is there any way to
calculate it? i assume using o.g. and final gravity wont be accurate
as the fruit wasnt in there when i initially took my reading. Any info
would be appreciated.
Thanks,
john
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Date: 27 Nov 2006 21:54:46
From: Phil
Subject: Re: Effects of adding fruit in secondary on alchohol content.
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On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 18:41:49 -0700, "spleenminus@yahoo.com"
<spleenminus@yahoo.com > wrote:
>Hi,
>I tend to add a lot of fruit and sometimes other sugar to my brews in
>secondary. I assume that those sugars add alchohol, but i was
>wondering how drastic the effects are. for instance I added 96 oz of
>cherries in syrup to 5 gal of beer tonight. is there any way to
>calculate it? i assume using o.g. and final gravity wont be accurate
>as the fruit wasnt in there when i initially took my reading. Any info
>would be appreciated.
I posted a fruit chart on these boards a few years ago, listing the
percentage of sugar and pH of the fruit. You can find it at:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.brewing/msg/213c81cb8d72352f?hl=en&
Phil
======
visit the New York City Homebrewers Guild website:
http://www.hbd.org/nychg
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 18:59:19
From: spleenminus@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Effects of adding fruit in secondary on alchohol content.
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thanks,
I will give it a look.
john
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:54:46 -0500, Phil <dogglebe@yahoooo.com > wrote:
>http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.brewing/msg/213c81cb8d72352f?hl=en&
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Date: 27 Nov 2006 20:15:22
From: Wayne
Subject: Re: Effects of adding fruit in secondary on alchohol content.
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spleenminus@yahoo.com wrote:
> Hi,
> I tend to add a lot of fruit and sometimes other sugar to my brews in
> secondary. I assume that those sugars add alchohol, but i was
> wondering how drastic the effects are. for instance I added 96 oz of
> cherries in syrup to 5 gal of beer tonight. is there any way to
> calculate it? i assume using o.g. and final gravity wont be accurate
> as the fruit wasnt in there when i initially took my reading. Any info
> would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> john
Since it sounds like you are using cherries from a can. Take a look at
the nutrition label on the side of the can. It will tell you how many
grams of sugar are in there. You can use that to compute the additional
gravity addition (sugar being 1.046 pppg).
Wayne
Bugeater Brewing Company
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 18:57:03
From: spleenminus@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Effects of adding fruit in secondary on alchohol content.
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Thanks. i am unclear on how to add it. if as an example i have 4
servings per jar at 35 grams of sugar, and i used 4 jars, how do i add
that to my o.g.? Hope i'm not being too obstuse.
thanks,
John
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 20:15:22 -0600, Wayne
<bugeaterbrewing@charter.net > wrote:
>spleenminus@yahoo.com wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I tend to add a lot of fruit and sometimes other sugar to my brews in
>> secondary. I assume that those sugars add alchohol, but i was
>> wondering how drastic the effects are. for instance I added 96 oz of
>> cherries in syrup to 5 gal of beer tonight. is there any way to
>> calculate it? i assume using o.g. and final gravity wont be accurate
>> as the fruit wasnt in there when i initially took my reading. Any info
>> would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> john
>Since it sounds like you are using cherries from a can. Take a look at
>the nutrition label on the side of the can. It will tell you how many
>grams of sugar are in there. You can use that to compute the additional
>gravity addition (sugar being 1.046 pppg).
>
>Wayne
>Bugeater Brewing Company
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 04:04:43
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Effects of adding fruit in secondary on alchohol content.
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On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:57:03 -0700, <spleenminus@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Thanks. i am unclear on how to add it. if as an example i have 4
> servings per jar a t 35 grams of sugar, and i used 4 jars, how do i add
> that to my o.g.? Hope i'm not being too obstuse.
You first figure out the total grams of sugar that you added. Was that 35
grams per serving? If so, then 4 * 35 is the grams per jar, and multiply that
by how many jars you used.
Now that you've got the total amount of sugar you need to calculate what the
OG contribution was.
The number somebody else posted was 46 (1.046) ppg. That means that 1 lbs
(sorry, not in metric) of sugar in 1 gallon of water gives 46 gravity points.
(Gravity points are the decimal part of the 1.XXX SG reading).
First is to convert the grams to lbs. Either that or convert the 46 ppg to
metric first.
The it becomes:
(lbs_of_sugar * 46) / batch_size_in_gallons
For example, if you ended up with 1.2 lbs of sugar (I think that's what you
get with 35 grams times 4 servings times 4 jars) in a 5 gallon batch, then
it would be:
(1.2 * 46) / 5 = 11
So, in this case it works out to adding 1.011 to your OG measurement (unless
I screwed up the math somewhere, which I'm sure someone will correct if I
did). That sounds reasonable for 6 lbs of fruit though.
John.
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 18:04:35
From: spleenminus@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Effects of adding fruit in secondary on alchohol content.
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Thanks John,
I will try and figure this out with the actual numbers on the jar.
john
On 29 Nov 2006 04:04:43 GMT, John 'Shaggy' Kolesar <spam@shagg.net >
wrote:
>On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:57:03 -0700, <spleenminus@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Thanks. i am unclear on how to add it. if as an example i have 4
>> servings per jar a t 35 grams of sugar, and i used 4 jars, how do i add
>> that to my o.g.? Hope i'm not being too obstuse.
>
>You first figure out the total grams of sugar that you added. Was that 35
>grams per serving? If so, then 4 * 35 is the grams per jar, and multiply that
>by how many jars you used.
>
>Now that you've got the total amount of sugar you need to calculate what the
>OG contribution was.
>
>The number somebody else posted was 46 (1.046) ppg. That means that 1 lbs
>(sorry, not in metric) of sugar in 1 gallon of water gives 46 gravity points.
>(Gravity points are the decimal part of the 1.XXX SG reading).
>
>First is to convert the grams to lbs. Either that or convert the 46 ppg to
>metric first.
>
>The it becomes:
>
>(lbs_of_sugar * 46) / batch_size_in_gallons
>
>For example, if you ended up with 1.2 lbs of sugar (I think that's what you
>get with 35 grams times 4 servings times 4 jars) in a 5 gallon batch, then
>it would be:
>
>(1.2 * 46) / 5 = 11
>
>So, in this case it works out to adding 1.011 to your OG measurement (unless
>I screwed up the math somewhere, which I'm sure someone will correct if I
>did). That sounds reasonable for 6 lbs of fruit though.
>
>
>John.
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 00:42:41
From: Scott Sellers
Subject: Re: Effects of adding fruit in secondary on alchohol content.
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John 'Shaggy' Kolesar <spam@shagg.net >:
>So, in this case it works out to adding 1.011 to your OG
>measurement (unless I screwed up the math somewhere, which I'm
>sure someone will correct if I did).
If I must:
What you said, -1 :)
cheers,
Scott S
--
Scott Sellers
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 20:38:49
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Effects of adding fruit in secondary on alchohol content.
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On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 18:41:49 -0700, <spleenminus@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Hi,
> I tend to add a lot of fruit and sometimes other sugar to my brews in
> secondary. I assume that those sugars add alchohol, but i was
> wondering how drastic the effects are. for instance I added 96 oz of
> cherries in syrup to 5 gal of beer tonight. is there any way to
> calculate it? i assume using o.g. and final gravity wont be accurate
> as the fruit wasnt in there when i initially took my reading. Any info
> would be appreciated.
You'd have to figure out the sugar content of the fruit and add that to
the original OG reading. I don't know the numbers off the top of my
head for different kinds of fruit, but I've seen people estimating it
on here before. So, I know it can be done, but I can't really give
you specific help. Sorry.
John.
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 19:00:03
From: spleenminus@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Effects of adding fruit in secondary on alchohol content.
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Thanks John.
john
On 28 Nov 2006 20:38:49 GMT, John 'Shaggy' Kolesar <spam@shagg.net >
wrote:
>On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 18:41:49 -0700, <spleenminus@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I tend to add a lot of fruit and sometimes other sugar to my brews in
>> secondary. I assume that those sugars add alchohol, but i was
>> wondering how drastic the effects are. for instance I added 96 oz of
>> cherries in syrup to 5 gal of beer tonight. is there any way to
>> calculate it? i assume using o.g. and final gravity wont be accurate
>> as the fruit wasnt in there when i initially took my reading. Any info
>> would be appreciated.
>
>You'd have to figure out the sugar content of the fruit and add that to
>the original OG reading. I don't know the numbers off the top of my
>head for different kinds of fruit, but I've seen people estimating it
>on here before. So, I know it can be done, but I can't really give
>you specific help. Sorry.
>
>
>John.
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