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Date: 09 Nov 2006 04:10:44
From: MarkMc
Subject: Dip tube length?
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Hi I've ordered up a couple of cornies to use for secondary
fermentation as I've come so close to dropping glass carboys, it's only
a matter of time before I drop one.
The intention is to rack to the cornie after primary is over, and
secondary for say 2 weeks for a 1.040 ale, then transfer via CO2 to a
serving cornie for force carbonation and serving. The idea here being
to just get the beer off the yeast to avoid yeast bite/autolosys.
I'm assuming I'm going to have to cut the dip tubes in the secondary
cornies to make them shorter to sit above the yeast that will gather at
the bottom.
Any recommendations as to what length is a good idea? Obviously, I
won't want to cut them too short and leave a load of good beer behind.
How do you folks determine if the beer is clear enough to transfer to
the serving keg, just keep taking samples? I guess something like 5
psi is best to keep the secondary at so as to pump gently and not
disturb the sediment?
Cheers,
Mark
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Date: 09 Nov 2006 06:03:55
From:
Subject: Re: Dip tube length?
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MarkMc wrote:
> Hi I've ordered up a couple of cornies to use for secondary
> fermentation as I've come so close to dropping glass carboys, it's only
> a matter of time before I drop one.
>
> The intention is to rack to the cornie after primary is over, and
> secondary for say 2 weeks for a 1.040 ale, then transfer via CO2 to a
> serving cornie for force carbonation and serving. The idea here being
> to just get the beer off the yeast to avoid yeast bite/autolosys.
>
> I'm assuming I'm going to have to cut the dip tubes in the secondary
> cornies to make them shorter to sit above the yeast that will gather at
> the bottom.
>
> Any recommendations as to what length is a good idea? Obviously, I
> won't want to cut them too short and leave a load of good beer behind.
>
> How do you folks determine if the beer is clear enough to transfer to
> the serving keg, just keep taking samples? I guess something like 5
> psi is best to keep the secondary at so as to pump gently and not
> disturb the sediment?
>
> Cheers,
> Mark
Here's another thought you can take it for what it's worth.
You may be able to 'tilt' the keg at an angle with a block or whatever,
so that instead of all the yeast and such accumulating directly under
the dip tube you kind of let it settlle on one of the 'corners'(where
the bottom and the sides meet). Then transfer while it's at that
angle.
or
I've even heard of people setting their kegs completely horizontal(if
you do this you'll want to hit the keg with some CO2 to get the lid to
seat) for a week or so, then very gently uprighting it as to not
disturb the yeast sediment, then transferring.
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Date: 09 Nov 2006 09:14:38
From: hankus
Subject: Re: Dip tube length?
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My brewing partner, who always takes the low tech approach,just uses the
usual pressure expecting the first few ounces to be turbid and discards that
as an offering to St Arnold of Metz.The entire mass of yeast does not end up
going into solution this way and indeed the beer does clear.OTOH,I prefer to
siphon from primary keg (once you've seen what a broken carboy is like,you
will be even happier U are in SS-it doesn't break,it EXPLODES) and save the
trub as a source for the next brew.
--
Thanks
Hank
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>
> MarkMc wrote:
>> Hi I've ordered up a couple of cornies to use for secondary
>> fermentation as I've come so close to dropping glass carboys, it's only
>> a matter of time before I drop one.
>>
>> The intention is to rack to the cornie after primary is over, and
>> secondary for say 2 weeks for a 1.040 ale, then transfer via CO2 to a
>> serving cornie for force carbonation and serving. The idea here being
>> to just get the beer off the yeast to avoid yeast bite/autolosys.
>>
>> I'm assuming I'm going to have to cut the dip tubes in the secondary
>> cornies to make them shorter to sit above the yeast that will gather at
>> the bottom.
>>
>> Any recommendations as to what length is a good idea? Obviously, I
>> won't want to cut them too short and leave a load of good beer behind.
>>
>> How do you folks determine if the beer is clear enough to transfer to
>> the serving keg, just keep taking samples? I guess something like 5
>> psi is best to keep the secondary at so as to pump gently and not
>> disturb the sediment?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mark
>
> Here's another thought you can take it for what it's worth.
>
> You may be able to 'tilt' the keg at an angle with a block or whatever,
> so that instead of all the yeast and such accumulating directly under
> the dip tube you kind of let it settlle on one of the 'corners'(where
> the bottom and the sides meet). Then transfer while it's at that
> angle.
>
> or
>
> I've even heard of people setting their kegs completely horizontal(if
> you do this you'll want to hit the keg with some CO2 to get the lid to
> seat) for a week or so, then very gently uprighting it as to not
> disturb the yeast sediment, then transferring.
>
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Date: 09 Nov 2006 04:50:33
From: MarkMc
Subject: Re: Dip tube length?
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Hi Sam
Thanks for sharing your experience with me.
I guess I could just divert the first few drops of the transferred beer
down the drain and then divert back, or will the stop-start action
cause the sediment to kick up?
Cheers,
Mark
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Date: 09 Nov 2006 13:20:47
From: Sam G. Daher
Subject: Re: Dip tube length?
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it will kick back up, your best bet is to use as little pressure as possible
to transfer start with 5 psi to get started and lower to 1psi if you can
i could never get it down to 1psi but at 2psi it did fine. The higher the
psi the more suction power and the more trub will be picked up so be patient
"MarkMc" <mmcnospam@yahoo.co.uk > wrote in message
news:1163076633.718418.145690@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Hi Sam
>
> Thanks for sharing your experience with me.
>
> I guess I could just divert the first few drops of the transferred beer
> down the drain and then divert back, or will the stop-start action
> cause the sediment to kick up?
>
> Cheers,
> Mark
>
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Date: 09 Nov 2006 12:35:05
From: Sam G. Daher
Subject: Re: Dip tube length?
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Mark,
Prior to going to a ss conical (which by the way i love) i did exactly what
you are talking about doing. Initially i did not cut the dip tube at all and
transferred to a second corny for dispensing at 2 psi. I later cut the dip
tube because i read that i should and i cut it about 1/4" from the bottom of
the keg. as that is how the siphon tubes for carboys are. Honestly both ways
allowed minimal trub to follow into second keg. The siphon tube at the
bottom will suck trub into second keg, but at 2psi it will only in a
diameter around where the tube contacts the bottom of about 2". After
racking to the keg from primary you should only have a thin line of trub
anyway so it wont make much differerence. After you pour the first beer or
two from dispensing keg you should not have any noticeable trub lefts. This
is based on my experiences.
Best of luck and Hoppy Brewing
"MarkMc" <mmcnospam@yahoo.co.uk > wrote in message
news:1163074244.604608.141140@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Hi I've ordered up a couple of cornies to use for secondary
> fermentation as I've come so close to dropping glass carboys, it's only
> a matter of time before I drop one.
>
> The intention is to rack to the cornie after primary is over, and
> secondary for say 2 weeks for a 1.040 ale, then transfer via CO2 to a
> serving cornie for force carbonation and serving. The idea here being
> to just get the beer off the yeast to avoid yeast bite/autolosys.
>
> I'm assuming I'm going to have to cut the dip tubes in the secondary
> cornies to make them shorter to sit above the yeast that will gather at
> the bottom.
>
> Any recommendations as to what length is a good idea? Obviously, I
> won't want to cut them too short and leave a load of good beer behind.
>
> How do you folks determine if the beer is clear enough to transfer to
> the serving keg, just keep taking samples? I guess something like 5
> psi is best to keep the secondary at so as to pump gently and not
> disturb the sediment?
>
> Cheers,
> Mark
>
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