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Date: 03 Aug 2006 12:11:57
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Coopers Dark Ale
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A friend gave me a can of Coopers Dark Ale that he got from
someone else. The 'best before date' is in 2007. I am
wondering which DME to add to it. On my own, I'd use 2 lbs
of Muntons Dark DME.
Any opinions?
Dick
P.S.: This is a Coopers no-boil kit which means I do not have
to brew outside. If someone tells me to go to hell, all I
need do is open my back door to feel the fires of hell. 104F!!
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Date: 03 Aug 2006 08:38:47
From:
Subject: Re: beers for warmer ferment temps.
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My only additional advice is that when it comes to belgiums yeast
MATTERS. If you make a dubbel, tripple, or saison you need to use a
belgian style yeast. Sparging a nice dubble wort then tossing DCL-51
in may make a decent beer, but it won't taste like a belgian ale.
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Date: 03 Aug 2006 09:51:40
From: Mark R
Subject: Re: Coopers Dark Ale
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"Dick Adams" <rdadams@smart.net > wrote in message
news:12d3q0d4ge26644@corp.supernews.com...
> A friend gave me a can of Coopers Dark Ale that he got from
> someone else. The 'best before date' is in 2007. I am
> wondering which DME to add to it. On my own, I'd use 2 lbs
> of Muntons Dark DME.
>
> Any opinions?
>
> Dick
>
> P.S.: This is a Coopers no-boil kit which means I do not have
> to brew outside. If someone tells me to go to hell, all I
> need do is open my back door to feel the fires of hell. 104F!!
If the dark is what you have on hand then go for it but the Cooper Dark is
very dark and you could just as well get away with a Light DME. With an
addition of some cascade hops while your boiling the DME you could probably
make a nice American Brown Ale.
The light bill is killing us. I have the thermostat turned up to "barely
tolerable" and I'd even be dripping sweat inside if I tried to make a batch
right now. If the temperature isn't over 100 the humidity is, and dear old
Mom had to call last night and rub it in, afternoon high 74 - low 42. I wish
the Post Office in Coquille had an opening!!
Mark R
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Date: 03 Aug 2006 23:53:52
From: Steve/Aus
Subject: Re: Coopers Dark Ale
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"Mark R" <marknorayspam@noev1spam.net > wrote in message
news:12d43a045aqjcb1@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Dick Adams" <rdadams@smart.net> wrote in message
> news:12d3q0d4ge26644@corp.supernews.com...
>> A friend gave me a can of Coopers Dark Ale that he got from
>> someone else. The 'best before date' is in 2007. I am
>> wondering which DME to add to it. On my own, I'd use 2 lbs
>> of Muntons Dark DME.
>>
>> Any opinions?
>>
>> Dick
>>
>> P.S.: This is a Coopers no-boil kit which means I do not have
>> to brew outside. If someone tells me to go to hell, all I
>> need do is open my back door to feel the fires of hell. 104F!!
>
> If the dark is what you have on hand then go for it but the Cooper Dark is
> very dark and you could just as well get away with a Light DME. With an
> addition of some cascade hops while your boiling the DME you could
> probably
> make a nice American Brown Ale.
>
> The light bill is killing us. I have the thermostat turned up to "barely
> tolerable" and I'd even be dripping sweat inside if I tried to make a
> batch
> right now. If the temperature isn't over 100 the humidity is, and dear old
> Mom had to call last night and rub it in, afternoon high 74 - low 42. I
> wish
> the Post Office in Coquille had an opening!!
>
> Mark R
>
Stop whinging about the heat - Whimps ;-)
Steve W (in Aus)
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Date: 05 Aug 2006 10:12:27
From: Mark R
Subject: Re: Coopers Dark Ale
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"Steve/Aus" <adlab@bigponddotnetdotau.trashthisbit > wrote in message
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> Stop whinging about the heat - Whimps ;-)
Hey, I spent three years living in Exmouth, WA, I know heat. Here it's the
darn humidity that's the killer.
Mark R
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Date: 03 Aug 2006 07:36:12
From: MarkMc
Subject: Re: Coopers Dark Ale
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IIRC from the book "Brew Like a Monk", the concensus is don't let a
Belgian ferment over 30C (86F) and all is ok.
I think a Dubbel would fit the bill quite nicely.
Cheers,
Mark
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Date: 03 Aug 2006 14:12:29
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Coopers Dark Ale
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On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:11:57 -0000, <rdadams@smart.net > wrote:
> If someone tells me to go to hell, all I need do is open my
> back door to feel the fires of hell. 104F!!
Yeah, tell me about it. The 138% humidity doesn't help either.
John.
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Date: 04 Aug 2006 10:23:13
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: Coopers Dark Ale
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John 'Shaggy' Kolesar <spam@shagg.net > wrote:
> <rdadams@smart.net> wrote:
>> If someone tells me to go to hell, all I need do is open my
>> back door to feel the fires of hell. 104F!!
> Yeah, tell me about it. The 138% humidity doesn't help either.
On Tuesday I had to walk from the Liquor Store by the SuperFresh
across the street to the new building south of the WalMart. It
can not be 50 yards. I was drenched with sweat by the time I
got there.
My 86 yr old mother moved to Lake Havasu City, AZ and claims the
heat is bearable if its dry. I'm thinking the South Island of
New Zealand would be ideal. You could spend the summers near
the glaciers and the winters in Christchurch.
Dick
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Date: 03 Aug 2006 07:00:56
From:
Subject: Re: beers for warmer ferment temps.
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John Bleichert wrote:
> Dick Adams <rdadams@smart.net> wrote:
> Any suggestions for a beer that can be fermented and conditioned in
> the mid-70s?
>
Belgiums like warmer temps. Or at least that's what I've read, and
the couple I have done were done warm on purpose. It seems the warmer
it is the more that funky belgian character comes through.
>
> -----------------------------------------------
> John Bleichert syborg@earthlink.net
> The heat from below can burn your eyes out!!
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Date: 03 Aug 2006 14:50:34
From: John Bleichert
Subject: Re: beers for warmer ferment temps.
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yournotauser@gmail.com wrote:
>
> John Bleichert wrote:
>> Dick Adams <rdadams@smart.net> wrote:
>
>> Any suggestions for a beer that can be fermented and conditioned in
>> the mid-70s?
>>
>
> Belgiums like warmer temps. Or at least that's what I've read, and
> the couple I have done were done warm on purpose. It seems the warmer
> it is the more that funky belgian character comes through.
>
Cool. Well, warm ;-) Thanks for the response (and to Mark too). I'll
look into making a Belgian and/or a Dubbel. I know nada about the
style, though I enjoy quaffing one on occasion.
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John Bleichert syborg@earthlink.net
The heat from below can burn your eyes out!!
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Date: 03 Aug 2006 12:41:52
From: John Bleichert
Subject: Re: Coopers Dark Ale
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Dick Adams <rdadams@smart.net > wrote:
> A friend gave me a can of Coopers Dark Ale that he got from
> someone else. The 'best before date' is in 2007. I am
> wondering which DME to add to it. On my own, I'd use 2 lbs
> of Muntons Dark DME.
>
> Any opinions?
>
> Dick
>
> P.S.: This is a Coopers no-boil kit which means I do not have
> to brew outside. If someone tells me to go to hell, all I
> need do is open my back door to feel the fires of hell. 104F!!
Yeah no kidding. 100F here in NY yesterday. My basement temp lifted to
75F whch effectively kills my ability to homebrew. My chest freezer is
full... I can only drink so fast dammit!!! I have a pale ale I need to
get in there ASAP tomorrow night (waiting for a brew hauler in the
mail) - making room is going to be interesting - I have a feeling the
fridge in my kitchen is going to be taking on some bottle mass :-).
Any suggestions for a beer that can be fermented and conditioned in
the mid-70s?
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John Bleichert syborg@earthlink.net
The heat from below can burn your eyes out!!
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Date: 03 Aug 2006 17:08:36
From: Wayne
Subject: Re: Coopers Dark Ale
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John Bleichert wrote:
> Any suggestions for a beer that can be fermented and conditioned in
> the mid-70s?
>
I have have a couple of saisons made with WLP565 that I have been
fermenting at 85-90°F. Whenever my fermentation fridge is full during
the summer and I still need to brew I go with the saisons.
Wayne
Bugeater Brewing Company
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Date: 04 Aug 2006 10:14:13
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: Coopers Dark Ale
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John Bleichert <syborg@earthlink.net > wrote:
> Dick Adams <rdadams@smart.net> wrote:
>> A friend gave me a can of Coopers Dark Ale that he got from
>> someone else. The 'best before date' is in 2007. I am
>> wondering which DME to add to it. On my own, I'd use 2 lbs
>> of Muntons Dark DME.
>>
>> Any opinions?
>>
>> P.S.: This is a Coopers no-boil kit which means I do not have
>> to brew outside. If someone tells me to go to hell, all I
>> need do is open my back door to feel the fires of hell. 104F!!
> Yeah no kidding. 100F here in NY yesterday. My basement temp lifted to
> 75F whch effectively kills my ability to homebrew. My chest freezer is
> full... I can only drink so fast dammit!!! I have a pale ale I need to
> get in there ASAP tomorrow night (waiting for a brew hauler in the
> mail) - making room is going to be interesting - I have a feeling the
> fridge in my kitchen is going to be taking on some bottle mass :-).
>
> Any suggestions for a beer that can be fermented and conditioned in
> the mid-70s?
If you have a bathtub in your basement, fill it to as close as possible
to the five gallon mark with cold water - mine is 60F. That and pray
for an early Fall.
Dick
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Date: 03 Aug 2006 19:52:32
From:
Subject: Re: Coopers Dark Ale
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Steve/Aus wrote:
>
> Stop whinging about the heat - Whimps ;-)
> Steve W (in Aus)
Alright, but come December and January I don't want to hear any sob
stories about how its 40 in the shade and we should feel sorry for your
estery lagers. ;)
Bryan
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Date: 04 Aug 2006 09:28:23
From: dutchbrew/chicago
Subject: Re: Coopers Dark Ale
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all I
> need do is open my back door to feel the fires of hell. 104F!!
not bad out today dick... i havent been able to boil in my garage for
awhile now gets way to damn hot in there lately... no insulation and
brick outside even at night its like a kiln in there with my burner
fired up.
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Date: 04 Aug 2006 16:47:56
From: rb
Subject: Re: Coopers Dark Ale
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Dick Adams wrote:
> A friend gave me a can of Coopers Dark Ale that he got from
> someone else. The 'best before date' is in 2007. I am
> wondering which DME to add to it. On my own, I'd use 2 lbs
> of Muntons Dark DME.
>
> Any opinions?
>
The dark ale isn't a bad base to start with. As someone else mentioned,
plain DME (~1kg) is fine, depends how dark you want it. Personally, I'd
use some crystal as well for a little extra body/flavour.
The yeast supplied in the gold satchet is supposed to do a reasonable
job, even at higher temps.
> Dick
>
> P.S.: This is a Coopers no-boil kit which means I do not have
> to brew outside. If someone tells me to go to hell, all I
> need do is open my back door to feel the fires of hell. 104F!!
well at 4pm it was 52F and >100% humidity. Good brewing weather but:)
rb
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Date: 04 Aug 2006 10:28:28
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: Coopers Dark Ale
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rb <snafu_1@lycos.com > wrote:
> well at 4pm it was 52F and >100% humidity. Good brewing weather but:)
52F? Where the hell are you?
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Date: 07 Aug 2006 15:53:41
From: rb
Subject: Re: Coopers Dark Ale
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Dick Adams wrote:
> rb <snafu_1@lycos.com> wrote:
>
>
>>well at 4pm it was 52F and >100% humidity. Good brewing weather but:)
>
>
> 52F? Where the hell are you?
Sydney in Oz. 52F at 4pm was a bit of an oddity, today it's about 62F.
rb
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Date: 07 Aug 2006 11:57:16
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: Coopers Dark Ale
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rb <snafu_1@lycos.com > wrote:
> Dick Adams wrote:
>> rb <snafu_1@lycos.com> wrote:
>>> well at 4pm it was 52F and >100% humidity. Good brewing weather but:)
>> 52F? Where the hell are you?
> Sydney in Oz. 52F at 4pm was a bit of an oddity, today it's about 62F.
Your summers must be a real killer! Where is OZ is there good
brewing weather?
Dick
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Date: 08 Aug 2006 11:14:17
From: rb
Subject: Re: Coopers Dark Ale
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Dick Adams wrote:
> rb <snafu_1@lycos.com> wrote:
>
>>Dick Adams wrote:
>>
>>>rb <snafu_1@lycos.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>>>well at 4pm it was 52F and >100% humidity. Good brewing weather but:)
>
>
>>>52F? Where the hell are you?
>
>
>>Sydney in Oz. 52F at 4pm was a bit of an oddity, today it's about 62F.
>
>
> Your summers must be a real killer! Where is OZ is there good
> brewing weather?
>
> Dick
>
Come January/February, I'll be one of those whinging about how hot it is
. Didn't understand the second bit.
rb
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Date: 08 Aug 2006 09:57:12
From: Mark R
Subject: Re: Coopers Dark Ale
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"rb" <snafu_1@lycos.com > wrote in message news:44d7e4ad$0$18492
> > Your summers must be a real killer! Where is OZ is there good
> > brewing weather?
> >
> > Dick
> >
> Come January/February, I'll be one of those whinging about how hot it is
> . Didn't understand the second bit.
I'll bet he meant "Where in OZ". Most of what us yanks see is Steve Irwin
running around the Outback or through the rain forests and tropics to the
north.
Mark R
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Date: 04 Aug 2006 16:56:10
From:
Subject: Re: Coopers Dark Ale
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yournotauser@gmail.com wrote:
> Dick Adams wrote:
> > rb <snafu_1@lycos.com> wrote:
> >
> > > well at 4pm it was 52F and >100% humidity. Good brewing weather but:)
> >
> > 52F? Where the hell are you?
>
> I have no idea wher he lives, but with those temps I'd guess southern
> hemisphere somewhere.
Upon further investigation that was about what the temp was in
Fairbanks Alaska the other day, so he could be from way up around
there, or he could be Can-a-didian.
>
> Bryan
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Date: 04 Aug 2006 11:05:16
From:
Subject: Re: Coopers Dark Ale
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Dick Adams wrote:
> rb <snafu_1@lycos.com> wrote:
>
> > well at 4pm it was 52F and >100% humidity. Good brewing weather but:)
>
> 52F? Where the hell are you?
I have no idea wher he lives, but with those temps I'd guess southern
hemisphere somewhere.
Bryan
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Date: 06 Aug 2006 06:30:55
From: Sean
Subject: Re: Coopers Dark Ale
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What about a braggot? Maybe something for the winter holidays?
Then you'd only have to boil long enough for hop utilization to
whatever degree you'd like.
Just a thought,
Sean
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Date: 06 Aug 2006 20:37:28
From: IanMac
Subject: Re: Coopers Dark Ale
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Dextrose to suit final SG and 250 to 500 of dark brown sugar (per tin)
to get a good creamy head like Kilkenny etc.
I am going to cop some flak over this but the Dark sugar does work well
in Copper kits and only Coppers kits.
Cheers Ian
Dick Adams wrote:
> A friend gave me a can of Coopers Dark Ale that he got from
> someone else. The 'best before date' is in 2007. I am
> wondering which DME to add to it. On my own, I'd use 2 lbs
> of Muntons Dark DME.
>
> Any opinions?
>
> Dick
>
> P.S.: This is a Coopers no-boil kit which means I do not have
> to brew outside. If someone tells me to go to hell, all I
> need do is open my back door to feel the fires of hell. 104F!!
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Date: 15 Aug 2006 19:15:11
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: Coopers Dark Ale
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IanMac <ianmac@spam.iinet.net.au > wrote:
> Dick Adams wrote:
>> A friend gave me a can of Coopers Dark Ale that he got from
>> someone else. The 'best before date' is in 2007. I am
>> wondering which DME to add to it. On my own, I'd use 2 lbs
>> of Muntons Dark DME.
>>
>> Any opinions?
> Dextrose to suit final SG and 250 to 500 of dark brown sugar
> (per tin) to get a good creamy head like Kilkenny etc.
>
> I am going to cop some flak over this but the Dark sugar does
> work well in Copper kits and only Coppers kits.
Well tomorrow is going to be Coopers' Kit day in my basement.
I have some light amber DME and a few lbs of brown sugar
shouting "Use me, use me." A lb (453 g) of brown sugar should
add .01 to the OG.
I'll tell you how it went after it's gone!
Dick
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